IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #39

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He is justifying it to HIMSELF. The black out excuse is very common in this type of person. He personally doesn't care what he has done, and in his own superior mind has justified his behavior. He only fears the investigators, and the public's response. He doesn't want anybody to know what he's done, but he is not necessarily ashamed. Does that help?
BBM.

Do you have examples from published sources establishing this commonality?

If he feels his mind superior, why does he fear the public's response?

What do you mean by "not necessarily ashamed"?

Thank you.
 
He is justifying it to HIMSELF. The black out excuse is very common in this type of person. He personally doesn't care what he has done, and in his own superior mind has justified his behavior. He only fears the investigators, and the public's response. He doesn't want anybody to know what he's done, but he is not necessarily ashamed. Does that help?

Is that based on psychology studies, personal observation or opinion... just need clarification, thanks!
 
Pondering this possibility...car keys or something on a keychain?

Sure. Or, maybe something like this...

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I'm sure they're in shock now that they know what he is...moo.
There is no way they could not have known. It was the whole purpose of the interview. Why would they have interviewed them BEFORE the fact? There was no reason for anybody to even know who he is. .... Oh sorry, maybe I misunderstood, I thought you were thinking they didn't know at the time. Yes, I'm sure many are shocked. But how man y times do we hear, he was quiet, polite,etc? Usually not he was a clean cut American Person. Seems ridiculous to me, although I understand fully WHY they did it.
 
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There is no way they could not have known. It was the whole purpose of the interview. Why would they have interviewed them BEFORE the fact? There was no reason for anybody to even know who he is.

Sorry, I didn't mean they didn't know. It was certainly after they knew, but as I read it they were explaining how they felt about him BEFORE they knew.
 
I don't see any "panic" in his movements that night. He had previously seen Mollie Jogging, he knew her route, he drove ahead of her on her route and circled in front of the CCTV until she too ran by the CCTV. After that CCTV sighting of Mollie, we switch to the suspect's story. According to him, Mollie threatened him, and he went into a daze.

His route was to grab her on the East outskirts of Brooklyn, immediately hit the backroads East, do something at the location map top-right dot at 8:28, turn South, do something at the location map bottom-right dot, then drive SE of Guernsey.

She died of multiple stab wounds. There is no time of death. There is no evidence at this time that she was held captive - in fact it's very unlikely since he was on the job the next morning and nothing was out of the ordinary.
It could be as simple as Mollie wasn't on board with being abducted, so he became angry that a jogging woman wouldn't just hop in a perp car and he incapacitated her. It could mean it's all a fabrication and she was under his control before she even saw anything coming. (probably)

I think the only thing we can know for sure (though LE surely knows more) is she was left in that cornfield. I mean, we can certainly reason through other parts of the journey and are likely in some cases bang on, but given his weird tale, I think how this really went down is anyone's best guess right now.
 
The charge that CR currently is facing requires premedation as a key component. Aside from following MT in a car, having a knife at the time of the attack could show further evidence of CR's intent and planing.
Seems like the DA must be confident they can prove premeditation or I believe they could use Murder 2 as a backup and charge with both? Not sure how it is in Iowa, but I think that has been done other places.
 
Agreed in his pocket or they found it under the seat in the car etc. MOO
They must have found it or he would not have included it in his story. Every single detail he gave was because they either found something or he knows that they have the video. Everything that is missing from his story ( black out) is what he knows they don't know. Makes perfect sense. Jmo
 
Anything he has said is of little value, or even matters really. Crimes reveal themselves via evidence. What does matter in some respects is that he did take LE to her body. This surprises me but I am also really relieved that he did. It would have been very easy for him to just deny, or say nothing, as many suspects have done. At least her family has her today, to bury. Jmo
 
The more I think about it I am going to go out on a limb and say both those vehicles are the workers. Neither one is something I would give farm workers to use, especially in winter. Yes they could have used them to go for "snacks" but you would have a vehicle that could be used on and off road. Just my little opinion and I could be wrong.
It's anyone's guess. That second vehicle threw us all for a loop. One of my curiosities about that second car is if it is a car CR has had access to since he moved to the US, like it's his uncle's possibly.
 
A jogger in the broader Brooklyn area may have a slightly different outlook, noting that jogging routes may take one past large, abandoned buildings and stretches of road where nary a soul is to be found. Given what we think we know of MT I find it quite remote that MT would have carried a defensive weapon but, even though it is Brooklyn, Iowa, it is 2018 in America and even Brooklyn has its share of crime, regardless of how low the rates may be.

Iowa Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Keep in mind: the "per 1000" stats at the link above, as applied to Brooklyn, reference against a city sporting a total population of only ~1450.
I think it's been established that she felt safe enough to keep the door unlocked, so that leaves me to doubt she would have carried a weapon. I'm also don't think it would be very safe to run with a knife for the same reason you don't run with scissors.
 
I think it's been established that she felt safe enough to keep the door unlocked, so that leaves me to doubt she would have carried a weapon. I'm also don't think it would be very safe to run with a knife for the same reason you don't run with scissors.

A self defense device is marketed to joggers, it isn't a knife but could inflict a similar wound...

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Also, I would suggest feeling 'safe in one's home' is not the same as feeling 'safe jogging streets at large', with the latter making one feel more vulnerable.
 
Seems like the DA must be confident they can prove premeditation or I believe they could use Murder 2 as a backup and charge with both? Not sure how it is in Iowa, but I think that has been done other places.
I believe that they instruct the jury to consider the different levels of murder from first degree murder down to manslaughter in order. At least that is how it was in a different case I followed in Iowa. They charged him with 1st degree but the jury ended up convicting him of 2nd degree. I think it has to do with that each of the lower levels is a component of the higher levels so when they charge with one they technically are charging with all or something like that.
 
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