I think even if they don't go anywhere with what they have done so far, they have really represented him well. I think if they have evidence that supports his innocence and they don't use it, then that would be a reason to appeal. I think he confessed and took them to her body, it's very hard to make magic out of that scenario for anyone! They did try to get that thrown out due to the line being left out of reading him his rights. I think they have done what they can so far with what they have. If there was something they didn't use that could help him, that would be different. Seems they are using everything, including casting doubt on the boyfriend who wasn't even within a couple hours of her when it happened.
Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #48
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I think even if they don't go anywhere with what they have done so far, they have really represented him well. I think if they have evidence that supports his innocence and they don't use it, then that would be a reason to appeal. I think he confessed and took them to her body, it's very hard to make magic out of that scenario for anyone! They did try to get that thrown out due to the line being left out of reading him his rights. I think they have done what they can so far with what they have. If there was something they didn't use that could help him, that would be different. Seems they are using everything, including casting doubt on the boyfriend who wasn't even within a couple hours of her when it happened.
I think even if they don't go anywhere with what they have done so far, they have really represented him well. I think if they have evidence that supports his innocence and they don't use it, then that would be a reason to appeal. I think he confessed and took them to her body, it's very hard to make magic out of that scenario for anyone! They did try to get that thrown out due to the line being left out of reading him his rights. I think they have done what they can so far with what they have. If there was something they didn't use that could help him, that would be different. Seems they are using everything, including casting doubt on the boyfriend who wasn't even within a couple hours of her when it happened.
One thing I just thought about was during the beginning of the interview he mentioned seeing her running and that she smiled and waved. I wonder if that was his attempt to say I saw her alive and well and she wasn't in distress then. Hoping they would quit questioning him. It was later that he admitted the other horrific things about following her and stopped to run beside her or whatever it was he said. I wonder if the transcript of his interview will be made available after the trial? I'd love to see when he made each of the statements. Did he deny first seeing her or did he jump right to he saw her and she waved, etc.
I think you are spot on, he was trying to place blame on her. Maybe he believes that in his twisted mind or maybe it was just part of his attempt to not look as guilty, but either way he is a sick individual.
I’m guessing CB wasn’t forthcoming with anything. First he said he wasn’t in town that night, then, when showed video, he admitted that was his Malibu & he was driving it. When asked about Mollie, he said he didn’t know her. When asked about the jogger in the video, he said “she” or “her” before LE said the jogger was female- couldn’t tell from video. He danced around things as long as he could, imo. I think LE was brilliant to put Romero in there- yes because Spanish is her 1st language- but she was young, pretty, personable, composed, conversational… the perfect recipe to crack him open. He probably thought he was impressing her- or getting closer to her by confessing. I’m sorry she’s no longer in LE- I think she had the potential for an awesome career. Cool as a cucumber against Freese, too. Didn’t slip into her bait & trap questions either. All moo.
Looking around for a current map about the route taken by the suspect, I came across this map link
Mollie Tibbetts search - Google My Maps
Mollie Tibbetts search - Google My Maps
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CRB also claimed after driving around he went by his uncle’s house to pick up a vacumn cleaner. I would hope that LE talked to that uncle.
True. If CB really picked up that vacuum, surely defense will be calling him to the stand. Hard to imagine he went with his victim in the trunk- especially if she was still alive. Or hung out to chat with uncle under those circumstances. Also hard to imagine he went after- either shirtless or with his bloody shirt. So… guessing there was no vacuum pick up that night. Jmo
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Every time I hear that she got mad and threatened to call police I feel like he's alluding to her being racist. I feel like he's trying to say " She was calling the police because she didn't want someone Mexican running with her" Am I completely off?
The term racism wasn't tossed around as often in 2018 as it is today. At the time, I wondered whether the assault and murder was related to his perception of status - that his life is with the cows, and her life was at the university with a promising future.
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Frankly after hearing some of the testimony we’ve heard so far I don’t think he is telling the truth about what happened anyway. I doubt it had anything to do with racism at all. I think he was looking for a victim, and sadly he found one.
I’ve wondered if he was looking for an American girlfriend & potential path to citizenship. Things didn’t work out with the mother of his child. And his FB posts from back around the time he became a murderer showed him dressed in what he must have thought was GQ-esque, flirting & posting on SO MANY female profiles. Remember? I think he was well acquainted with rejection. Did he snap- or was he a predator starting out? Idk
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No. The defense was very clear in their protest that they were careful NOT to include any video evidence that was previously suppressed by court order (i.e., deficient Miranda).
The suppressed evidence is is what occurred between the hours 11:30 pm and early the next morning when he was fully, correctly, Mirandized CBR and when he took investigators to the cornfield where they found Mollie's body.
Another source of contention for me personally is all this talk about 11 hours of interrogation and CBR being exhausted and not capable of voluntarily confessing. Having watched the court live stream evidence suppression hearings, CBR did not arrive at the Sheriff's office for questioning until early evening -- after his shift at the dairy farm. The relevant hours (of 11 total hours) include the suppressed hours after 11:30 pm. In other words, the interview/interrogation in question was really only about 5 hours that occurred BEFORE 11:30 pm and not after midnight when everybody including CBR and the investigators were tired.
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Actually, his former girlfriend and mother of his daughter was an American girlfriend that is also Hispanic. I don't think citizenship was a motive here. CBR was a predator.
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Idk her citizenship- never saw reported & never sleuthed her, but in CB’s world the break-up had to be a fail, imo. That path to legalization would have been lost as well.
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Good I'm glad! Lol!
She went to high school with Mollie and they were facebook friends from what I recall. What I remember was at his first hearing he had no family members present, but she was there with the baby and she was in tears.
This article was posted quite a few times early on- clarifies Mollie’s acquaintanceship with CB’s ex, but no reference to citizenship & not an issue. My earlier post was simply in theory to potential motivating factors & possible trigger for this crime- piggybacking from @StarryStarryNight ’s post. Hope that clarifies!
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Bam!!Mollie's Fitbit has been the story from the beginning, particularly heart rate - as it most likely corresponds to the exact times that she was most threatened. This provides a timeline of her abduction, assault and murder.
"While details about the leads remain scarce, there is one new kind of data that might end up playing an important role: The Iowa law enforcement agencies have been working with the FBI to use her Fitbit and social media data to look for clues. They’ve been tight-lipped about what information they’re using, but Rahn said they’re trying to find any information that’s relevant to the case.Mollie Tibbetts Disappearance - Fitbit Data in Investigations
“We’re trying to use all avenues and techniques to locate Mollie, including any devices she might have, such as the Fitbit, as well as social media outlets,” he told Runner’s World by phone.
In Iowa, law enforcement agencies can use personal data from devices based on family consent, search warrants, and subpoenas. Most other states allow law enforcement officials to use data based on consent and search warrants as well, while some restrict using subpoenas to obtain information. The FBI declined to comment on “specific tools or techniques utilized in criminal investigations,” including this case.
But this isn’t the first time where law enforcement agencies and forensics teams have used smart device data to gain insight on things like GPS locations, heart rate data, steps, and other kinds of activity."
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I recall the young mother was heavily attacked /criticized for attending the hearing and later commented that she intentionally took her child to court -- not knowing when her daughter would ever see the suspect again since she did not want to take the toddler to jail. Local defenders commented that mom lived in Brooklyn her entire life and her family longtime farmers in the area. MOO (See MSM reader comments).
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