ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #23

[Cardinal47]

Are you kidding me. Now we know where to dig. So shouldn't we atleast put an x mark the spot in the place that we want to dig?

Are we saying that Klein knows more than the fbi?

Bottom line. If Klein knows where to search. Then the fbi should know at this point as well since Klein is supposedly working with the fbi.

Now if the fbi can't find deorr at the moment.

Then why believe Klein. Just asking?

I'm not cc but some people are more comfortable talking to a PI than talking to an FBI agent.

Just saying.

 

[SweetT]

Sure, some women would text their mother about aunt flo showing up and some women would forger to take tampons on a camping trip. But you have to look at it in context. Something happened to DeOrr early that morning and going to the store was some kind of coverup. They were covering up their child's death. In that context, why was it so important to text her mother about going to buy feminine products?

Either nothing had happened to him at that point, or it was to establish a time line, a cell ping or a reason for being in the area where they were...something to that affect. I see what you are saying here.

 

[desert-blue]

I just keep thinking...if they did actually buy pads and/or tampons, since it seems unlikely that JM is lying about starting her period, for what did they need things that easily absorb blood??!

Given that the whole reason for the store trip was for feminine supplies, I'm quite certain that they did buy something along those lines. They'd be even stupider than I thought if they used that as an excuse and then didn't buy any feminine supplies. As for what they used them for, who knows - maybe nothing. If half the pack was gone out of the pack, that would be suspicious (although I doubt anyone checked). Maybe that's what VDK was hauling in his truck to get rid of, who knows...

 

[KYPastTracker]

One more thing..........

Klein's office is in a little strip mall and I have a feeling his staff consists of the women that was on the sofa with him. 3 people, IMO.

LE does not care for PI's or most of the media except for a few. I was married to a man who retired from LE after 22 years and was a deputy myself for 10 years. What I have stated is how it was several years ago and may not be true today but I think it still is. Some PI's interfere with LE's investigations. If I were Klein, I would step lightly because he is throwing around words like 'evidence' and 'proffer'. A 'proffer' would be made to a prosecutor. If Klein was all that professional or educated, he would use words correctly.

All of this is JMO, so take it as you will.

Back to lurking and reading! Just know that I am here for DeOrr and hope every single day that it will be the day he is found!

If his website is up to date, per Klein's website, he has seven (7) team members listed and also has bodyguards, undercover agents, etc.

http://www.kleininvestigations.com

 

[pepelepolecat]

Allen Browning, who's representing both Jessica and Vernal, says he's spoken to his clients a number of times about what happened that day.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/idaho/kunz-family-fires-private-investigator/65018463

It seems kind of odd that one attorney is representing both parents and apparently Vernal's dad too , though I guess since no charges have been brought yet it makes no difference.

It could be a tactical move.

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

if his website is up to date, per klein's website, he has seven (7) team members listed and also has bodyguards, undercover agents, etc.

http://www.kleininvestigations.com

thank you!

 

[LookingForClues]

Several posters have pointed out that feminine products make great first aid "stand-ins," such as for covering wounds, stuffing into a wound, wiping up blood (soaks it up pretty darn well!), etc. So saying it's "that time" makes a great excuse for buying these products, and looks innocent on the outside. I'm not saying she did or did not need them for the usual purpose, just pointing out they can be used for other purposes.

 

[persimmon]

Given that the whole reason for the store trip was for feminine supplies, I'm quite certain that they did buy something along those lines. They'd be even stupider than I thought if they used that as an excuse and then didn't buy any feminine supplies. As for what they used them for, who knows - maybe nothing. If half the pack was gone out of the pack, that would be suspicious (although I doubt anyone checked). Maybe that's what VDK was hauling in his truck to get rid of, who knows...

My guess is an unopened box of tampons may have been discovered. While I know JM and VDK are not on good terms with the truth, I don't consider them to be all that bright. Consequently, it's unlikely they had the foresight to follow through with their lies beyond the verbal stage.

 

[The Apparition]

There are a few of us locals (*waving*) on this thread who know a thing or two about Idaho weather, in case anyone wants to give us a shout out.

Yes shout out to the locals. Believe me I remember hearing just days ago from some of our local posters how cold it was and there was still feet of snow on the ground. Someone (perhaps even you) posted photos from a highway cam. Like I said people can disagree about whatever they want but just posting misinformation helps no one.

 

[Rayemonde]

I think they'd already hidden DeOrr's body by the time they went to the store... Does anyone remember what the timestamp on the receipt was? I can't find it.

 

[SweetT]

There are a few of us locals (*waving*) on this thread who know a thing or two about Idaho weather, in case anyone wants to give us a shout out.

I had asked this earlier and dont have my old post but I live in Montana and we are having an extremely dry warm winter here..So a lot of places that usually have snow do not have snow now. If the ski mountain didn't make their own snow they would probably be closed already for the season. So what I want to know is..How is Idaho our neighbor doing ? Im at 5500 ft and can see up the mountain to about 10K feet at 5500 we are snow free..and I would even say probably to 7K feet. Which I thought was the level of the camp ground. So how is the weather, snow in Idaho right now? Would a search be feasible at this time? I didnt notice avalanche areas around that campground area but I know here every yr in Cook city we have at least one avalanche that kills someone on a snowmobile..one a yr average. Im not in cook city but that area is a little higher elevation etc.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I think they'd already hidden DeOrr's body by the time they went to the store... Does anyone remember what the timestamp on the receipt was? I can't find it.

Don't think LE have released that info? I think speculation puts it somewhere around midday, give or take.

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

I think they'd already hidden DeOrr's body by the time they went to the store... Does anyone remember what the timestamp on the receipt was? I can't find it.

I don't recall ever hearing it.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Okay. My last post here. Lol

Since Klein states that he knows that it was an accident / homicide and he has a feeling on where to search.

Then obviously Klein knows everything.

So hopefully once the blizzard and frozen ground has thawed; Then maybe Klein can crack this case and move on to the next.

Or will he simply stay on board for the attention.

 

[persimmon]

Sorry if I missed something upthread, but I'm wondering about the discussion regarding who is retaining Klein's services following his dismissal? Did he suggest that it was somebody close to the case? Or are people just tossing ideas around?

 

[SweetT]

Don't think LE have released that info? I think speculation puts it somewhere around midday, give or take.

That is what I recall also.

 

[desert-blue]

My guess is an unopened box of tampons may have been discovered. While I know JM and VDK are not on good terms with the truth, I don't consider them to be all that bright. Consequently, it's unlikely they had the foresight to follow through with their lies beyond the verbal stage.

I wonder about that too. It was so urgent. Wouldn't it be something if the package was sitting there in the bag unopened?

 

[pepelepolecat]

The presence of CFS would indicate a breach of the closed system which contains the spinal cord, CSF, brain, etc. A head, face or neck injury could cause it, possibly a crush type injury (being ran over) which creates a breach due to a sudden increase in pressure. Or could be present with severe brain swelling, which can occur after a drowning.

Could also be due to a traumatic head injury.

(Had a friend growing up who knocked holes in his brain while riding his bike, and he started sneezing out spinal fluid.)

 

[ConcernedCitizenID]

Yes shout out to the locals. Believe me I remember hearing just days ago from some of our local posters how cold it was and there was still feet of snow on the ground. Someone (perhaps even you) posted photos from a highway cam. Like I said people can disagree about whatever they want but just posting misinformation helps no one.

That wasn't me who posted the Leadore area webcam of the highway, but it was very helpful, wasn't it? I'm 4 hours away from Idaho Falls in Boise (the state's capital) and while we have been having unseasonably warm weather (in the 50's), all one has to do is drive 30 minutes up to our ski mountain, Bogus Basin, and find some of the best snow we've had in years. I guess it's hard to imagine such extremes in weather, but that's Idaho for ya!

 

[ConcernedCitizenID]

Sorry if I missed something upthread, but I'm wondering about the discussion regarding who is retaining Klein's services following his dismissal? Did he suggest that it was somebody close to the case? Or are people just tossing ideas around?

He hasn't announced it, yet. They are still vetting the two people who have stepped up.