Klein Investigations and Consulting Question & Answer Session with Bella's Friends: Unidentified and Missing Children FB
02 /02 / 2016
LJ If they suspect one or both parents, why hasn't there yet been an arrest?
Klein Investigations and Consulting LE will charge when they are ready. This is a complex legal situation - I do anticipate charges. I do not know when.
SK - My question is what shoe size is DeOrr and what size were his boots? I've never seen it asked or answered
Klein Investigations and Consulting The boots were three sizes larger than his foot.
KSE - Mr. Klein, when you stated the 17 minute window of the parents being gone to the creek has expanded to more like 4 hours, what exactly do you mean? Was he left with his grandfather for more like 4 hours or do you mean he was missing for 4 hours before the 911 call?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Very good question. We answered that in one of the many interviews - and I will got over it again. When we first started this case we thought we had the timeline down pretty tight - however - now we have four more witnesses that open the timeline to an extended period. That timeline is now 8 a.m. to 2:26 pm.
KSE - Is there any physical evidence to prove he's no longer here or is that assumed the only possibility due to ruling out animal attack and forced abduction?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Yes. We cannot release that at this time. Due to prosecution issues.
KB - Mr.Klein,,, have any other witnesses come foward? How many witnesses gave you information that was useful?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Yes. A total of 9 with very firm information.
KB - Is there any chance that anyone else besides the 4 at the campsite could be involved?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No not that we can see at this time.
SVDB - Was the parents being named as suspects a result of the private investigators findings? It seemed they were not suspects until the PI made a statement regarding his investigation into the case. Also, were they (Klein Investigations) aware of the letter the first PI wrote explaining the parents were not cooperating and not being truthful w/ him at the time of their investigation?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We were not aware of Mr. Vilt's letter. We see that as a side show - we are focused on Deorr and finding him.
AA: What vehicles were at the campsite when law enforcement arrived on July 10th. Were any of the vehicles diesel? Was diesel fuel purchased?
Klein Investigations and Consulting This goes to evidence - and we will not comment. We will say yes on the diesel fuel purchase.
AA: Was this case treated at all like a possible crime scene on the day of the alleged disapperance? If no, do you think this case would have benefited greatly had it been? Do you feel any important evidence could have been destroyed purposefully or by accident in the first few days?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No. I cannot and will not comment on the LE decisions that day. Hindsight in all of our lives would make things better. LE has done a great job in the team's opinion - I concure.
CB: It's been heard that Isaac has intellectual disabilities. His LDT came back inconclusive. What are the specific questions that were asked? Does Isaac get a 'get out of jail' free card? Is there strong evidence that makes Isaac innocent?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Isaac in our teams opinion is a person of interest with "direct knowledge".
ES: Did he pass the two questions the parents failed, know what happened and where he is, or was did that come back as inconclusive due to his disabilities? Is that the same for the grandpa?
Klein Investigations and Consulting ES he did not pass.
DN: Expanding on this question - did Isaac pass the control questions on the polygraph?
Klein Investigations and Consulting DN he did not.
DN: Sheriff Bowerman's reason for naming them as suspects seems to hinge entirely on the inconclusive polygraph results. Has Klein performed an independent polygraph or would he consider doing so?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Let's be clear - there has been 9 polygraph tests given to the parents, and four to the other two on the camp grounds. There has NEVER been any contradiction in this. As well, the parents have given over 11 statements to LE, FBI and our firm. Any other polygraph tests at this point would be a waste of time.
AA: When it's said that Vernal DeOrr Kunz went up above the campsite on a road to make his 911 call, is it the road to the south of the campsite clearly seen on maps or did he go above on the north side on a smaller road not seen well from maps?
Klein Investigations and Consulting I will only say that LE and now our firm has reviewed the "pings" and transmissions of the cell phones. We again come to the same conclusion. I cannot give details.
AG: Why does it seem like isaac is getting a free pass
Klein Investigations and Consulting AG he is not.
DN: 1. The store clerk DID see a child with Jessica and Deorr on July 10th and 2. There were 'a couple' of hits at the campground by the search dogs. Can Klein confirm these two things that Bowerman contradicted his earlier statements about?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Sheriff Bowerman in our opinion has been very clear in his statements. Please listen to them again and you will understand that this case is in progress. Things change by the hour right now.
Klein Investigations and Consulting DN There were no hits by the dogs. We will not comment on witness statements as they are now part of the prosectuional issues.
Klein Investigations and Consulting ES We cannot commment on this.
DG Did any, or all, of the adults go to the Silver Dollar Restaurant and Bar in Leadore on Thursday, July 9th?
Klein Investigations and Consulting As this is in the timeline - and outside any prosecutional questions - the answer is yes.
DG Was Deorr with them?
No answer from Klein.
BOS: Who made the 3rd phone call to 911. Was there a disposable phone in the hands of anyone while camping?
Klein Investigations and Consulting There were three calls made to 911. First, Vernal. Second, Jessica. Third, the grandfather.
LH: So the pictures of the 2 boys thay everyone says is 1 deorr and the other is not him. Thay boy in California I believe. .was dna done to prove he wasn't deorr and if not why not
Klein Investigations and Consulting We have asked and answered this over 10 times. Cali LE did their jobs. It is not Deorr.
MMW: Was it considered that they could have burned baby DeOorr?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No comment
RJ: They said they had his blanket, sippy cup and monkey in the car. But if his blanket was at the campsite, why didn't LE seize it as evidence?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We cannot comment on evidence that has been obtained.
DN - Sheriff Bowerman's reason for naming them as suspects seems to hinge entirely on the inconclusive polygraph results. Has Klein performed an independent polygraph or would he consider doing so?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Let's be clear - there has been 9 polygraph tests given to the parents, and four to the other two on the camp grounds. There has NEVER been any contradiction in this. As well, the parents have given over 11 statements to LE, FBI and our firm. Any other polygraph tests at this point would be a waste of time.
RJ: Mr Klein, in you opinion have the parents lied to law enforcement and/ or to your team?
Klein Investigations and Consulting: R - you just asked the 1 million dollar question. No comment at this time.
JLC - I just really want to know how long was his parents gone for when they went for a walk and also did they just wonder of without even asking grandfather to look after baby Deorr
Klein Investigations and Consulting Your question is under false pretence. The senario you lay out is myth.
JVR - Did Isaac confirm that he did see DeOrr alive at the camp site at any time and specifically after the trip to the store?
Klein Investigations and Consulting This goes to direct testimony. The only comment we will make at this point is that : "It depends on which statement you want to believe that came from Isaac."
DG - Did Jessica's mom arrive at the campground before Search & Rescue and/or Law Enforcement?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Mrs. C is not a suspect in this matter. Her arrival is in "other evidence" that is being placed into the timeline. Thus - we cannot comment.
PGB - Mr Klein, you have stated that you have new physical evidence yet sheriff Bowerman said there is no physical evidence. Can you elaborate on this? Or was the evidence you referred to the polygraph information?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Again - from the time of that statement to the flux of the case daily - we have turned over items to the FBI and it is being looked at in Q Virginia. We will not comment on what that is.
CB - Why hasn't there been an Official Press Conference by LE?
Klein Investigations and Consulting There will be in due time. Everyone is working very hard right now on this case. Give them some room and let them do their jobs. As with us.
KG - Is there any chance at all this little one might be alive?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No - not in our opinion.
MFG - Why weren't the parents suspects from day 1? Not that Klein Investigations had anything to do with it at that point, but do you know why law enforcement ruled them out?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We cannot answer that. We have only had the case since November 28, 2015. We are not prevy to that information and we consider it a side show. We have only one focus.
AK - Mr.Klein, if I remember correctly, there was something mentioned about someone dumping ashes in the area of the search, during the search. Were those ashes ever tested? Is there any possibility this is somehow linked?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We have found the link to the ashes. It is of no relationship to this case.
SS - Can you clear up the Disneyland rumor? Did Jessica and Deorr Sr. go to Disneyland shortly after little Deorr's disappearance?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We have no knowledge of this. Again - this is a side show and we don't have time for rumors.
NIDT - Did investigators find anything of Deorr's at the campground? ( A bag packed with clothes, toys, etc. stuff you would pack for a two year old going on a camping trip.) Why won't Issac say what Deorr was doing when he last saw him? ( playing, sleeping, eating) I don't see how that has anything to do with the timeline. I just want to know what he was doing?
Klein Investigations and Consulting We cannot comment on evidence that has been obtained.
KFP - DK Sr. mistakenly referred to Snake River a couple of times and I'm wondering if that would be considered leakage. I'm wondering if there's any chance they were at another location when the incident occurred and they may have buried the body in another location or put it in the Snake River.
Klein Investigations and Consulting Mr. Kunz (the grandfather) is not involved in any portion of this case. He has been very helpful with information to our team as well as LE. He is a distraught grandfather and I hope the public has some type of feeling for that. To answer the "Snake River" question - we have no evidence to indicate this. Again - a rumor.
PC: I have read all the questions I don't see this one if its been asked I apologize I would like to know if on the lie director test if they were asked if little deorr is alive? Its a hard questions to ask but important I feel.
Klein Investigations and Consulting We will leave that to the FBI and LE to announce
KFP - Why isn't there more emphasis being put on Great Grandpa? Was he really supposed to be watching little Deorr? Or is this entire bizarre story a complete sham they have concocted to make an abduction/wild animal theory sound plausible? Everything about their behavior screams guilty to me.
Klein Investigations and Consulting K - we feel your pain. In due time the story will come out. Today we cannot comment on this. As well - to all - we have ruled out abduction and wild animal beyond a doubt.
NR: Is there anything reason to believe PI Vilt's adoption theory?
Klein Investigations and Consulting In our opinion - none
CW - Thank you Bella's Friends: Unidentified and Missing Children for doing this. It does seem there are some "questions" on here by an individual that are not so much as a question, but an agenda. That is JMO
Klein Investigations and Consulting Bella's Friends: Unidentified and Missing Children CW - you bring up a great point. There are some which have created web sites, some that have created web pages, and some that simply talk to here themselves talk. We call these folks "hangers" that seemingly thing they know what they know based upon what they think. Let's be clear - there are now five groups that know the true story : LE, FBI, USDOJ Prosecutors, County Prosecutors (2 counties) and our firm. Anything other - is simple rumor. I have promised before and I know in our meetings with LE - when the time comes you all will hear the story. Right now we are all working.
AO - Can you explain how poligraphs work and the possibilities for incosistancies? Can we expect the forensic evidence aquired recently and sent off to take as long as the inital items sent?
Klein Investigations and Consulting I am not a poly guy - but the basis is simple. The machine creates a graph based upon sweat, blood pressure, and heart rate. There are control questions asked in the middle of all questioning - they rate the basis on a 1-99.9 scale. As stated in a question above - the number of polygraphs in this case is huge. Second part, you will hear nothing about the results until the FBI and LE want you to know. We will not comment as well.
DG: Do you think something happened to DeOrr before or after the time stamp on the store receipt?
Klein Investigations and Consulting This goes to timeline. I can say publicly that we have expanded the timeline down to 8 a.m. and between that hour and 2:26 p.m.
PM - Is it true that Jessicas mom disposed of a soiled diaper at the camp ground and was it ever found?
Klein Investigations and Consulting This is part of the timeline. We cannot comment.
NR: Sorry if this has been asked. When was the last time someone OTHER than Reinwand, Walton, Mitchell and Kunz saw DeOrr?
RJ: Yeah, and not vague "well, there might have been a child in store" sightings... When was the last time someone definitely saw him in Idaho Falls? The extended family have never said when they last saw him. And did he seem healthy and happy the last time he was seen?
Klein Investigations and Consulting There are none.
MHV- Why is Sheriff Bowerman saying there is no physical evidence while KIC is stating there is? Why such major discrepancies if they are all working so closely together?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Marie - as we have stated - this case is moving very fast. You need to go back and read again what the Sheriff said. What is said today is changing tomorrow as now witnesses continue to come foward and evidence is being processed.
NR - Is there anything reason to believe PI Vilt's adoption theory?
Klein Investigations and Consulting In our opinion - none.
DG - Do you think something happened to DeOrr before or after the time stamp on the store receipt?
Klein Investigations and Consulting This goes to timeline. I can say publicly that we have expanded the timeline down to 8 a.m. and between that hour and 2:26 p.
AA: Have they checked Jessica and Deorr's home? Or interviewed their other children?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No comment.
AA - Had they taken pictures or video with their cellphones up at the campground before the disappearance? or made calls to anybody?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No comment.
AA - The first private investigator had offered up a 20,000 reward i believe i heard, but the parents didn't want it. if they aren't guilty of anything, what could be their possible reasons for not wanting a reward at that time?
Klein Investigations and Consulting I cannot comment. Conjecture
DM: Has one of the 4 that were at the campsite come forward to what happened?
Klein Investigations and Consulting No comment.
GS: I don't think I've ever seen this question but to me, it is a huge red flag: Doesn't it seem odd that little Deorr's father states something like he hauled down the road in his truck to get a cell signal? It seems to me that, if a small child was thought to be wandering around, he would be afraid of driving too fast and running the child over.
DM I agree. So what was he really hauling down the road for?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Again - that is one statement made. There are 8 others as well. It depends on what statement you want to believe.
RHF - When and where was this picture taken? Has it been established beyond doubt that DeOrr was physically alive and well at timber creek on the morning of July 10th? What exactly was baby DeOrr doing when IR reports that he saw him at 1:00pm on July 10th? We have heard everything from getting ready for a nap, playing near the campsite with his hot wheel car, and sitting in a chair near the fire eating a candybar. Also, is grandpa too infirm to give a witness statement regarding baby DeOrr's presence at the campsite on July 10th at 1:00pm?
Klein Investigations and Consulting Lot's questions Robin. No comment of the details. The grandfather did give 4 statements. Again - it depends on which statement you want to believe.
