Identified! ID - Grangeville, WhtMale UP7538, 35-55, Red/Blond Hair, Wire Glasses, Sep'84 - Roger Brian Bennett

[DutchSarah]

https://identifyus.org/cases/7538

NamUS Case with lots of pictures and a male who looks distinctive (even though much older than 35, could that be the time back then?).
His clothes look too nice for him to be a transient I would think.

Anyone has a idea? Date of Death is around two years prior.

 

[Laughing]

Should be enough there for a match?

At the time, lots of Air Force activity in Montana, missile bases. IDK about the Army, would the shoes have been used in the Air Force as well?

Sometimes people still end up in the military when they have little family support after high school? Maybe no one is looking for him?

 

[coonhound]

James Schroeder went missing while hunting with 2 others near Grangeville, ID in 1982. He was much younger than the UID is suspected to be and a bit taller. However, the timeline matches and he did have sandy blonde hair. Not sure about glasses.

 

[Laughing]

Worth submitting, I'd say! Good find, coonhound!

 

[coonhound]

According to this issue of the Lewiston Tribune (page 23), Schroeder was last seen 50 miles from where these remains were located.

The article does mention a better possibility: Steven Pearsall. He was former USAF (matches the clothing to an extent) and did wear glasses. His face somewhat resembles the UID. He was 35 when he went missing.

There's quite a bit written about Pearsall since he went missing the same night and place where two teens also went missing (subsequently, found dead in a canyon a couple years later). There's quite a bit written about Pearsall's case. His height is off and I'd think the UIDs height would have been measured against the pants,too. But perhaps not. Pearsall was initially thought to be a suspect and then later thought to have been a possible victim (wrong place/wrong time witness).

 

[DutchSarah]

Ha, thanks guys for the good two tips!!

The detective working on the case has been super nice and we have been writing a bit (the contact was due to another case).
He really believes that web sleuths can make a difference, therefore he gave more pictures which i am allowed to share here to help
us.

The pictures are off cigarette papers found with the deceased, so far he was unable to figure out from what date they were produced and where
they were distributed. Please find them below, so if any one has a guess to impress him:

 

[meanmaryjean]

Pearsall is a rule- out on NAMUS

 

[KaylaraOwl]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig-Zag_(company) Info on the Zig Zag pack

 

[NL007]

Two years too young and two inches too short. The story on doenet is strange, though. I don't find it odd that he'd be so far away from FLA under those circumstances.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1902dmfl.html

 

[alawaysslueth]

Could this be Robert Marvin

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/136/0/



The age matches
The sex matches
The race matches
The Time frame matches
The height is only 4 inches off
The hair color matches
They both have wire rimmed glasses

 

[the_missing]

Could this be Robert Marvin

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/136/0/



The age matches
The sex matches
The race matches
The Time frame matches
The height is only 4 inches off
The hair color matches
They both have wire rimmed glasses

The estimated time of death for the UP is 1982-83, so it's unlikely to be someone who was alive as recently as a week earlier. They both have DNA and dentals, so it should be a pretty straightforward comparison, so there's probably no harm in calling it in. Marvin isn't on the ruleout list for the UP.

 

[alawaysslueth]

I submitted Robert Marvin as a possiable match.... and just recived an email back from Jessica Hager saying:


Thank you for your email. I will review both cases and forward to the investigating agencies for any necessary

 

[watergirl62]

I submitted Robert Marvin as a possiable match.... and just recived an email back from Jessica Hager saying:


Thank you for your email. I will review both cases and forward to the investigating agencies for any necessary

 

[WesternArtist]

Could this be Benjamin Franklin Gray? He went missing from Montrose, Colorado in 1978. He was in debt at the time. Between Grangeville and the Montana border would be an ideal place to live off the grid undetected. I'm still a little unsure about the circumstances but the demographics fit.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gray_benjamin.html

The nose is a little different but the circumstances for John Kelly Gentry could also fit. He was wanted for homicides in Michigan and Ohio. His family received postcards from him postmarked in CA in 1983. He could have passed through Calumet City, IL on his way west. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/29823/14
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...e-los-angeles-gentry-20160824-snap-story.html

 

[WesternArtist]

Benjamin Franklin Gray can be ruled out because he has dentures and I confirmed that the UID "Mr. Bones" did not although he had a bridge. Here is an article with a lot of good details about the case: http://www.idahocountyfreepress.com...death-victim-identity-unknown-30-year-old-ca/

 

[MadMcGoo]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP7538
Male, White / Caucasian
​

Date Body Found: September 19, 1984
Location Found: Grangeville, Idaho
Estimated Age: Adult - Pre 50; 35-55
Estimated Year of Death: 1982-1983
Estimated PMI: 2 Years
Estimated Height: 5 feet 6 inches
Eye Color: Unknown
Hair Color: Blond/Strawberry
Head Hair Description: Hair found on some of the clothing indicates a head hair color of blonde to blondish-red in color

Clothing: Maroon pullover shirt with light brown horizontal stripe; light brown imitation leather jacket, size medium manufactured by "Anthonys" (on the body)
Clothing: Green (possible army fatigue pants with a possible inseam of 30"); Shirt of unknown manufacturer made of blue wool with gray & black buttons; dark blue military style web belt with "Domar U.S." on back of the buckle (possible waist of 32"). (near the body)
Footwear: White tennis shoes (made is USA, size approx. 10-12.5). Most likely brand is PF Flyers of a type issued by military
Eyewear: Wire rimmed glasses indicating victim was very near-sighted
Accessories: White plastic water bottle with blue cap

Investigating Agency
Idaho County Sheriff's Office (208) 983-1100
Investigator Jerry Johnson
Agency Case Number: 8409022

Missing Person exclusions
MP29823 John Gentry 04/12/1983 Monroe MI (X2)
MP136 Robert Marvin 09/04/1984 Utah UT
MP34368 Joseph Burns 08/02/1982 San Francisco CA
MP7429 Randall Leach 11/07/1980 Bonneville ID
MP2071 Steven Pearsall 09/12/1982 Nez Perce ID

 

[MadMcGoo]

Individual Clothing Items:

 

[Legally Bland]

LEWISTON, Idaho — Authorities in Idaho have accepted an unresolved case from 1984 as part of a genetic genealogy study that could help police identify a body found 36 years ago.

The Lewiston Tribune reported Thursday that Idaho County Sheriff Lt. Jerry Johnson contacted the state crime lab and asked researchers there to consider the case of the body known as "Mr. Bones."

Police: Idaho body found in 1984 to undergo DNA analysis | ktvb.com

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping up case. Maybe this will be the year he gets his name back.

 

[othram]

Bumping up case. Maybe this will be the year he gets his name back.

Today: The Idaho County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify 1984 John Doe