Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #62

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Police searching for Rexburg children believed to be in serious danger | East Idaho News

I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface. The children's mother (Lori Wallows) recently married a man (Chad Daybell) a few weeks after his wife died. It was presumed the late wife had died of natural causes but was exhumed recently and her death is now being investigated.
The new wife's husband was shot in a family argument earlier this year:

Chandler Police identify man who was shot dead during family fight

The husband and wife are not cooperating with police and have since vanished.

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS* NO DISCUSSION #2

ID - Joshua Vallow & Tylee Ryan, Rexburg, Sept 2019 - TIMELINE ONLY *NO DISCUSSION*

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There seems to be some confusion and concerns being expressed about Timeline posts not being linked in the Opening Posts.

Mods, Admins, Coordinators ... we've all had discussion about this over the last year and we just don't know why or when members started requesting WS staff to make all these additions and changes to the Opening Posts of new threads. We are a very limited staff and this is something members have historically done on their own that doesn't create any extra work for WS staff.

It is a very simple system that was set up years ago and has worked well in the past. We don't need to duplicate effort or reinvent the wheel here.

In each forum, i.e. "Located Persons Discussion", members will see at the top of the page, a sub forum called for example "Located Timeline and Media Links"

As you can see, any member can start an appropriately titled new timeline thread within such a forum and make or copy their Timeline posts and all subsequent revisions or updates into that thread. It can be titled something like Vallow & Daybell Media, Maps & Timeline (or just Vallow & Daybell Timeline thread if they want to keep it separate and apart from Media and Maps). If the thread gets titled Media, Maps and Timelines, all members have to do is use the search feature within that thread for the word Timeline. That's what these features are for.

When a member has created the Timeline thread, WS staff link it ONCE in the Opening Post and it never has to be changed again, regardless of whether it's 1 or 100 new discussion threads for any given case.

If there is any question about the above, please contact any Mod or Admin and we'll be glad to clarify.

If nobody else is going to do it for this case, when one of us gets time (not sure when that will be), we will set up the timeline thread for you in this case and copy all of Gardener1850's timeline posts into it. We will update the link in the Opening Post and it will never have to change after that.

Truly hope this clarifies.
 
Hey everyone,

Mommacass has now been verified as a family member. We'll leave it to mommacass if they wish to share how they factor into the family relationships in this case.

As a verified member, mommacass does not have to provide links to the information they provide. You may ask mommacass questions but it is up to them whether they answer or not.

Please be respectful to them at all times and do not argue with them or badger them for information.
 
Someone in a previous thread asked about whether Means' motion for contempt was related to the info Nate Eaton saw that was later sealed. Here is what Lori Hellis had to say at that time:

This week we also saw some odd filings surrounding sealing documents. Let’s see if I can explain. Apparently, Mark Means filed a second declaration supporting his motion to hold the state in contempt of court for delaying discovery. He also apparently attached 169 pages of confidential discovery to this declaration to prove the statements he’d made, yet another rookie mistake. That prompted the prosecutor to frantically seek an emergency order to seal the documents and protect the confidential information.

More at link:

Lori Indicted For Charles Vallow's Murder. — The Lori Vallow Story
 
If only it was just 62 pages rather than 62 threads of about 50-ish pages apiece!
I'm actually surprised it's only at 62 threads, what with how crazy, complicated, and chaotic this whole case (and related intrigues) has been. The OP was truly prescient when they said "I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface." And it just keeps getting more and more... interesting... (I don't know if interesting is the right word, but I'll run with it...) as time goes on.
 
Can some please bring over all the possible upcoming court hearings Niner and others put up. Thanks.
 
How did JP and MM get chosen to defend LV and CD? If I suddenly needed a criminal attorney, I imagine my google search would say something like "criminal attorney near me" and my top google results would probably be lawyers within like 50 miles of my location. From there, I would narrow the options down by attorneys that specialize in defending the type of crime I am charged with. How did they end up with 2 lawyers that are 4 hours away from their location and neither specializes in criminal cases? Was there a prior relationship with these guys? Were they suggested to the Daybells by someone else? Why these specific 2 attorneys? Using the bare minimum common sense and logic, these attorneys would not be the best fit for the Daybell needs. Just in charges for travel time, they would have blown thru Tammy's life insurance in no time. Something is fishy here, IMO.
 
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In case you are wondering about any hearings for Lori Vallow, this one in Madison County is vacated. Originally, this was the pre-trial conference (8/17/21) for the misdemeanors against her but I’m told her cases are stayed.

i knew this hearing was no longer on going…..

IMOO….LV is playing games much like felon j arias…..delay any way possible…that trial was unreal
 
How did JP and MM get chosen to defend LV and CD? If I suddenly needed a criminal attorney, I imagine my google search would say something like "criminal attorney near me" and my top google results would probably be lawyers within like 50 miles of my location. From there, I would narrow the options down by attorneys that specialize in defending the type of crime I am charged with. How did they end up with 2 lawyers that are 4 hours away from their location and neither specializes in criminal cases? Was there a prior relationship with these guys? Were they suggested to the Daybells by someone else? Why these specific 2 attorneys? Using the bare minimum common sense and logic, these attorneys would not be the best fit for the Daybell needs. Just in charges for travel time, they would have blown thru Tammy's life insurance in no time. Something is fishy here, IMO.

Key words: “bare minimum common sense”. Like attracts like, and all four of these clowns are idiots. MOO.
 
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