I wonder if AlC or someone went up to Yellowstone before the 8th to case out a perfect spot or off road trail. I suppose LE can check that out with phone records. Do they have the phone records for AlC too?
Good info, thank you! I’m sure you have it, but here is the FBI website to upload photos. FBI — Seeking Information on Missing Children - Rexburg, Idaho
Please send the FBI your photos: FBI — Seeking Information on Missing Children - Rexburg, Idaho
Even if you don't think you captured any photos of Tylee, JJ, Lori and Alex or their vehicle. There may be other clues that the FBI can look for by comparing your photos with other tourists' photos submitted to them. For example, suppose you took a photo on Sept 7th at a certain location and someone else took a photo at the exact same location late in the day on Sept 8th? If the ground is disturbed or something in the environment is altered slightly in the second person's photo they might not know that without having yours from the day before to compare. The FBI also likely knows some geo-data (specific coordinates) for Lori's icloud photos and some locations for where their phones traveled in the park. They can probably narrow down which of your photos they want to look at for clues or determine if none of your photos are near the areas that Tylee, JJ, Lori and Alex visited. They haven't released very much info to us on specific locations in the park nor how long they stayed. Your photos could be really helpful to the investigation.
MOO
Today was an emotional day. Not because of Lori being extradited. I really couldn't care less about her transportation arrangements nor her new accommodations (other than the fact she is safely contained there). What really got to me today? 2 photos: Grandma sitting on the curb and Tylee & JJ in Yellowstone.
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New photos show missing Idaho kids in Yellowstone before disappearance
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As Nate Eaton said, "JJ and Tylee deserve your answers, Lori."
WATCH: Lori Vallow Daybell arrives in Rexburg and refuses to answer our questions | East Idaho News
MOO.
I am in the process of getting all the photos together at this time. I just saw this on the news today. We just ran across a photo of a young boy wearing a green/tri-colored jacket standing behind me, but I am sure it is NOT JV, but will still send it as well. My heart stopped for a moment, then I found a picture of a Ford Truck, which only showed the grill and “Texas” license plate, couldn’t see the color of it, again, heart stopping for a second. It might take me a while, but I will get the photos to the FBI.
An important thing to note is that even without cell signal and seemingly not having GPS, your phone can still see the satellites for GPS and store that info and upload it to location services for Apple and Google at a later time. Mapping with GPS would require a cell signal except in cases where you download the offline map data first.A few things that I recall of importance, we had no cell service whatsoever, no GPS or any means of communication via cell during our drive through Yellowstone.
An important thing to note is that even without cell signal and seemingly not having GPS, your phone can still see the satellites for GPS and store that info and upload it to location services for Apple and Google at a later time. Mapping with GPS would require a cell signal except in cases where you download the offline map data first.
Sometimes I see something cool from an airplane and I will pull out my GPS calibration tool to get my exact altitude and long/lat so I can look at Google Maps after I land. Last year I downloaded all of my saved data with Google and uploaded my location data to a map application that showed my exact locations for the last 10 years. Because of GPS, I showed exact flight patterns for some of my trips around the US and the world.
Hopefully they can extract some of that data with a subpoena.
Please stay on topic, and move on from the “Lori’s looks” discussions
Please stay on topic, and move on from the “Lori’s looks” discussions
Vinelink who didn't notify me. fyi
LORI N VALLOW
Custody Record
Age46
GenderFemale
RaceWhite
Ethnicity Non-Hispanic
Date of Birth Jun 26, 1973
Aliases LORI DAYBELL
ID Number174174
Custody Status Date Mar 05, 2020 08:54 PM MST
Custody StatusIn Custody
Custody Detail Madison County Detention Center
Book Date Mar 05, 2020 04:42 PM MST
LOCATION
Madison County Detention Center
(208) 372-5002
Rexburg,
VINELink
That is either the time VINELINK last received a status on Lori or it was the time that Idaho added Lori to the system. Often times status updates are delayed on VINELINK (or even county jail rosters) for officer and prisoner safety.I have a question about this. So it shows she was booked in at 4:42pm. But above that it says “Custody Status Date Mar 05, 2020 08:54 PM MST”. What happened at 8:54pm? Is that when they entered the data or was there some sort of status hearing at that time? I know she’s not suppose to be in court until tomorrow so that just stood out to me.
BBMFinally got a moment to put some words down.
Something I noticed that was absent from the arrest warrant was anything reference internet searches. Any detective investigating missing children is going to subpoena cell phone providers, internet providers, to get search information and phone call history. We've seen it in many cases. However, we didn't see that here. I have no doubt that it has been done (or is in the works), but I don't think they used it for the warrant because firstly, they didn't want to tip their hand, and they had enough to get a warrant without it.
Now, I believe this also applies to Chad. There is no doubt an investigation going on Tammy's death, and I imagine they have done the same search on his internet activity and phone call activity. Wiping a device doesn't wipe the history at the service provider, fortunately. This group seems to think it is untouchable, and thus didn't attempt to really cover their tracks very much, if at all.
There was brief mention of financial investigations, but it seemed brief, but enough to know there isn't outgoing support. But, they can look back for some time and aggregate the data to look for patterns or other things that stand out. Due to banking rules, certain transactions will require a SAR, or suspicious activity report, to be filed by the financial institution. There's always a record!
Considering the data trail our major players here have left, I don't think the search results would shock anybody. Also, the FBI mobile command didn't park in Rexburg for no reason.
To echo some thoughts I've read recently - the lack of a sense of urgency, at least to us citizen sleuths. In my opinion, it is because they know the children are no longer living and they know where the people responsible for it currently sit.
True. But if the state has exculpatory evidence and they dont produce it then it could come back to bite them.I'm not an attorney, but I believe the rules of discovery only apply for current charges. Prosecution doesn't have to show their hand for future charges they are planning or charges that LE is still investigating. MOO.
For a refresher, Lori's current charges are:
Desertion and Nonsupport of Dependent Child Under 18 YOA, I18-401(1), Felony on 9/23/2019
Desertion and Nonsupport of Dependent Child Under 18 YOA, I18-401(1), Felony on 9/08/2019
Arrests & Seizures-Resisting or Obstructing Officers, I18-705, Misdemeanor, on 11/26/2019
Criminal Solicitation to Commit a Crime, I18-2001 {M}, Misdemeanor, on11/26/2019
Contempt of Court-Criminal-Willful disobedience or court process or order, 18-1801(4), on 1/30/2020
Can someone opine why LV would hire a divorce lawyer for her substantially more serious charges? Dumping Daybell soon? There are three lawyers hired, tho', so I guess she wanted one in each specialty. I have to go look at the others now to see if they're more appropriate to her situation.