Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #25

[Ohmeohmy]

I doubt Lori and Chad will stay in the house where Tammy died. All the reporters will be camped out there. If Lori gets out then they will probably stay with CP or another loyal AVOW member who believes the hogwash about this all being a "misunderstanding". MOO.

What if it is out at the house in Rigby/ Menan Idaho and the Parrett guy?

 

[AZlawyer]

I am not a lawyer but legally I think that may be tricky because it may contradict her 5th amendment right not to self incriminate now that she has been criminally charged.

I thought about that, but I’m not sure. For example, production of the kids might entail production of evidence of abuse or murder...idk. It’s something I would devote a couple of hours of research to if I were the prosecutor, though.

ITA... it was the "vino needed" moment for me. Tough to accept the argument that it's okay for a special needs 7yr old to legally be abandoned for 12 months.

That one-year thing in the statute is just a PRESUMPTION that if you’ve failed to contact your kids for a year you’ve abandoned them. Abandonment can still be proved in other ways before the one year deadline.

 

[Amster]

At the very least, while judges and lawyers are bending themselves into pretzels protecting Lori, the SS payments for the forgotten children should be stopped. Why is that seemingly impossible?

 

[ThinkoutLoud]

The most discouraging part to me was the tactics the lawyers were using. They all had to do with technicalities and misclassifications and all the ways in which Lori was a victim of the media/ the court/ public opinion. IMO we are going to see more of this in the future which means she doesn’t have a case of innocence that would mean the kids are ok. Her case for “innocence” is only backed by an argument that the courts are wrong to charge her in the first place. MOO

 

[Busymom4]

Wow so much to comment on!! Im not sure where to start!! First I wish on a petty level she wasn't given make up, I think that's a perk of freedom!! MOO

2nd did you all notice the long stare down from Colby over Chad's way? Nothing like seeing your mom's new husband for the first time in a courtroom at your mom's arraignment!!???!!!

I wasn't happy about the bail drop! I understand it but I don't like it!!

IMHO the Pitbull in heels, she's out of her league in my opinion....

I have more to say but I'll catch up on the comments first!!

 

[lacegrl130]

I think the judge acted fairly. If they get her out on bail, I don't think she's going anywhere. MOO

I agree. They can't make new rules just for her.

 

[Anonymous91]

I believe that the kids are dead. She keeps claiming this is a custody issue, I think it is complete nonsense.

Let's assume the kids are alive:

She has alienated Colby to the point, that he wants nothing to do with her. It's not much of a leap that she will never see any of her grand-kids either.

If JJ and TR are found alive, it will just be a matter of time, before they will cut off all ties with their mother too. Again, any future grand-kids would not be in Lori's future.

Question: What type of mother would do that to their own children, under any circumstances?

Which leads me to believe that the kids are dead. Then her defense makes sense. She hides behind legal loopholes, and the children are never produced or found. She is betting that she can get away with it all.

If no one finds the kids, then no one can prove that the kids are dead.

This also explains why they refuse to say if the kids are alive or dead.

MOO

 

[sunflowerchick]

Yes, I know that, but I would imagine they still think suicide is a clear path to hell (or whatever they believe in).

But if that were the case, wouldn't they also believe murder is a clear path to hell as well? So where are the kids?

 

[BeckyF]

wtf is she smiling??? in all my years of sleuthing, i have never seen anything like this. WOW.

Me either. I wanted to reach thru my TV. This woman is dangerous!

 

[Bellat]

I don’t think she cares bc obviously she has no problem with murder and murder isn’t okay in her religion

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the point is.... that there is a concern that she will do the worst case scenario and take her own life. Kind of a FU to everyone.... because then we may never know where those poor kids are

 

[TTF14]

It's impossible for me to wrap my brain around her smug smiles and smirks when talking about her own missing, and probably dead, children! How is there no emotion for her own children? A jury is NOT going to like her.

 

[ThinkoutLoud]

Even if she thinks she’s innocent, she should have remorse for the feelings others are going through. There’s just no indication of that whatsoever.

 

[tresir2012]

She’s running , or will run through all his money...
so Chad may be -out- in her evil world ....

MOO

If Chad puts up the 10% he would get it back when she shows up for trial or
if she gets arrested for another crime. But how would he find the $900,000 in collateral?

 

[AmandaSkis]

I’m just sitting here, waiting to see what happens with bail. I’d like for someone in Idaho to chime in with the process for Idaho.

For example, does 10% go to the court or to a bondsmen? I’ve seen people write here in WS that both situations can happen in other courts.

And is the 10% refundable?

Again, I’m curious about this court specifically, not what is done in another state or country.

 

[TTF14]

Does anyone know how/where the investigations into Tammy's death and Alex's death are going?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Justin Lum Fox 10 @jlumfox10
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Larry and Kay Woodcock, Brandon Boudreaux (Ex of Lori’s niece) watch hearing unfold.




Wood: If bail us lowered, Lori Vallow should be restricted to living in Madison County, ID.

I wonder who gave them their lei's and what the significance is?

 

[ReadyorNot]

Wow so much to comment on!! Im not sure where to start!! First I wish on a petty level she wasn't given make up, I think that's a perk of freedom!! MOO

2nd did you all notice the long stare down from Colby over Chad's way? Nothing like seeing your mom's new husband for the first time in a courtroom at your mom's arraignment!!???!!!

I wasn't happy about the bail drop! I understand it but I don't like it!!

IMHO the Pitbull in heels, she's out of her league in my opinion....

I have more to say but I'll catch up on the comments first!!

Regarding her lawyer, she seemed unlikeable and pretentious I can't imagine her being very convincing with a jury.

 

[idaidaidaho]

@tresir2012 You asked: "Any other AVOW members who have basements or compounds?"

Yes. I have given all names I know of to LE. I don't know what became of any of it. But there is a (slim IMO) chance the kids might be kept with someone. I don't know why they would have gotten rid of the service dog, the iPad, and medications if so, however. And I imagine the filing of prescriptions would be easily traced unless they're getting them another way. I hope the FBI are investigating any and all members of LDS AVOW and any other extreme prepper groups they're involved with.

 

[kye0001]

 

[Anonymous91]

The most discouraging part to me was the tactics the lawyers were using. They all had to do with technicalities and misclassifications and all the ways in which Lori was a victim of the media/ the court/ public opinion. IMO we are going to see more of this in the future which means she doesn’t have a case of innocence that would mean the kids are ok. Her case for “innocence” is only backed by an argument that the courts are wrong to charge her in the first place. MOO

She's playing the "Victim Card", psychologically it is a good tactic.

It really upsets me though, what about the children's rights? They are the true victims in all of this.

Hopefully, this case can help set new laws to protect children, we can all see a glaring problem with how this is not fair to those poor kids.

MOO