Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #27

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I hope I understand your intent here, as, of course the real Tammy did not do any such thing. Please be careful to not let your anger at Chad cause you to disparage any victims, particularly Tammy. I suspect that was not your intent here.
I don't know her, of course, and I suspect you do. As said before, I just get so livid that anyone could disparage her....especially her children. I will feel so much better when/if they come out and show the love they should for their mother. She deserves more--from everyone.
 
I wonder why he apparently only told JR about it then and they shared those same visions. It is creepy for sure.
You seem to give JR a lot more credence than most. Even if she is telling the truth about that, which is just as likely that she is, as that she isn’t, her stated desires to be interviewed by the media, sell her books and services, and whatever other motivations she may have, all cause me to take anything she says with a boulder of salt.
 
FOX 13 Investigates: Website associated with Chad Daybell and his followers shuts down

I thought it may be a good idea to repost this article. It partly explains some of the thinking behind these "visions" and that bad spirits could be responsible for them. It also explains Chad being one of Christ's disciples in one of his previous lives, (multiple mortal probations) James the Less (James the Just). Hope that's clearer now.
 
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Until the Daybell kids start talking, we won’t know the details of Chad’s lies. But IMO, any of Chad’s kids who were exposed to his PAP activities would be aware of Lori from the podcasts Chad occasionally joined, at the very least. It was also shared that one of Chad’s sons told a neighbor that Chad met Lori in Hawaii and just married her. I suspect Chad is trying to have them believe that he didn’t plan on meeting her in Hawaii, rather, it was a coincidence, perhaps even guided by spirit Tammy. This fits in with other sources that quote Chad as saying that he was reconnecting with her. Other info in the MSM exposes these points as lies, but the kids might not be seeing, or might not be able to believe those points yet.
JMO but I picture the son who told his friend that Chad met a widow in Hawaii and got married as the one who was away doing his mission. Possibly that son never met Lori because he was away
 
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I don't know her, of course, and I suspect you do. As said before, I just get so livid that anyone could disparage her....especially her children. I will feel so much better when/if they come out and show the love they should for their mother. She deserves more--from everyone.
I’m not sure why I went through the process of getting VI status as her friend, if that doesn’t solidify the point that I knew her, and the whole family, well. I know Tammy’s children to love her deeply. Others have eloquently stated the importance to remember that her kids are victims here too, and when the truth is fully exposed, they will have even more to resolve and heal from. As others have said here, I, too, give Tammy’s kids every benefit of the doubt.
 
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That's a good thing. Who wants to live in a world of lies?

Life is complicated enough simply living in the truth. It's hard work becoming a mature adult. It's hard work developing kids into good, moral beings with the ability to think things through and the willingness to work hard at becoming constructively engaged adults who serve themselves, their loved ones, and their communities. It's also hard taking care of aging parents with the combination of tenderness and forgiveness necessary to be a caretaker of someone with failing mental and physical health. And then there are all the unexpected difficulties one encounters as well.

Who has time or energy for doing all that on a shifting foundation?
AMEN!!!!
 
One piece of the puzzle that is missing: is Alex doing all this killing for nothing? I am sure LE has examined Chad's and Alex's bank records with a fine-tooth comb looking for transactions.

Cult Laundry: $ out of Chad's cult account (courtesy of TD) into AxC acct back to ZP thus back to the cult. It's complicated.
 
You seem to give JR a lot more credence than most. Even if she is telling the truth about that, which is just as likely that she is, as that she isn’t, her stated desires to be interviewed by the media, sell her books and services, and whatever other motivations she may have, all cause me to take anything she says with a boulder of salt.
It's not about giving credence to any one or any of these crazy visions or crazy stories, like being one of Christ's disciples in a previous mortal probation. I don't believe a word of any of them but I want to be respectful of all views. You seem to think Chad's views are more believable than JR or HS ? Or do Chad's views need a bucket of salt too? Because that's what I think. These two are Chad's authors whose books he published and he and Tammy lived off the income from those books. So now those beliefs are rubbish? I think these books are just to make money. Chad encouraged HS to write his books and probably did the same with JR too. MOO.
 
I hope I understand your intent here, as, of course the real Tammy did not do any such thing. Please be careful to not let your anger at Chad cause you to disparage any victims, particularly Tammy. I suspect that was not your intent here.
I'm throwing it back on Chad. HE is the one disparaging Tammy, and her memory, by saying she gave him her "spirit blessing" to fool around with Jezebel. I was being sarcastic, and yeah angry at the type of lies he thinks he can get away with! It's obvious he had a deep relationship with Lori, what, with the podcasts, and the letter to Tammy from "Charles" trying to get Chad off the leash to come visit her. This was going on before Charles was killed!
 
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You seem to give JR a lot more credence than most. Even if she is telling the truth about that, which is just as likely that she is, as that she isn’t, her stated desires to be interviewed by the media, sell her books and services, and whatever other motivations she may have, all cause me to take anything she says with a boulder of salt.
It's not about giving credence to any one or any of these crazy visions or crazy stories, like being one of Christ's disciples in a previous mortal probation. I don't believe a word of any of them but I want to be respectful of all views. You seem to think Chad's views are more believable than JR or HS ? Or do Chad's views need a bucket of salt too? Because that's what I think. These two are Chad's authors whose books he published and he and Tammy lived off the income from those books. So now those beliefs are rubbish? I think these books are just to make money. Chad encouraged HS to write his books and probably did the same with JR too. MOO.
 
Quick question while you are on here...As far as the digital footprint , would LE have where each of these cell phones may have pinged in Rexburg vs Yellowstone? Would it almost give them a radius to look in Yellowstone? I would bet the stuff collected in cell phones to laptops will sink Chad and Lori big time.MOO

Yes, they LE can easily determine if cell phones were in proximity to each other with a great degree of accuracy.

Data will bring them down..they were not covering their tracks at all. The dumbest thing they did was take Tylee's phone to Hawaii.
 
I understand that that son is not home yet.
Poor kid, imagine being so far away from home while all this is going on. It’s bad enough to loose your mum while your away but what’s followed is unimaginable. He’s probably going to be reading the news updates and wondering what the heck’s going on :( jmo
 
It's not about giving credence to any one or any of these crazy visions or crazy stories, like being one of Christ's disciples in a previous mortal probation. I don't believe a word of any of them but I want to be respectful of all views. You seem to think Chad's views are more believable than JR or HS ? Or do Chad's views need a bucket of salt too? Because that's what I think. These two are Chad's authors whose books he published and he and Tammy lived off the income from those books. So now those beliefs are rubbish? I think these books are just to make money. Chad encouraged HS to write his books and probably did the same with JR too. MOO.
If you have been following my posts, which I think you have, because you have questioned me numerous times, you should know that my friendship with Chad deteriorated over my questioning his books, beliefs, and publishing choices, particularly as they related to JR, HS, and everyone else in his world of last days, called to the mountains, crazy train. Of course I don’t believe him either.
 
NEW

They added the JJ Vallow Conservator Case to Lori


iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts

Name Date of Birth
Vallow, Lori Norene XX/XX/1973

Cases
Case Number
Type Location Party Name Date of Birth
CR33-20-0302 Criminal Madison County Magistrate Court Vallow, Lori Norene XX/XX/1973

CV33-20-0088 G3a- Joint Petition Guard/Conserv (Minor) Same Party Madison County Magistrate Court XX/XX/1973
Does this mean she’s fighting for custody of JJ?
 
I've wondered about that since the first video with Nate in Kauai. :eek: ::::shivers:::::

That's about the only twist this story hasn't had yet.
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she may have a protective vest on
 
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