I think that occurred with Ryan‘s childrenI recall an early interview where he said he went to the house later and that's when he found out how he died.
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I think that occurred with Ryan‘s childrenI recall an early interview where he said he went to the house later and that's when he found out how he died.
Would/ could/ can the state charge her with the murder of the children if their bodies are never found and they think there is enough evidence to prove Lori is responsible for their disappearance? Her defying the court order to produce the children is evidence itself. JMO. I could be wrong.
IMO, for a murder charge there must be evidence of murder, not just disappearance.
I totally agree with you about the pool party. The main reason being this crew doesn’t seem to have friends. All the drama and murder happens within family confines. I am guessing that Lori , Alex and maybe Tylee played loud music and whooped it up in the backyard. The noise was mentioned to police, but never reached the level of a noise complaint.Thank you for saying this. I dont believe this post-mortem pool party happened either. There's just been nothing to substantiate that it actually occurred. It was believable because LV actually is despicable enough to do something like that. But I think some neighbors wouldve come forward by now.
Maybe we could even spend some time with Marki if he is still around, give him some pointers, God knows he needs um!
I know that there are successful 'no body' murder trials. And it is sometimes easier with children, because it's obvious a young boy like Joshua didn't run away and hide himself somewhere. It's a little harder with teens, because the defense can try and say she ran off voluntarily, or a predator got her.
But with this case, and all of the dead bodies piled up already, there shouldn't be a problem convincing a jury what happened.
I hope they get a jury that can follow a complex set of facts though.
I totally agree with you about the pool party. The main reason being this crew doesn’t seem to have friends. All the drama and murder happens within family confines. I am guessing that Lori , Alex and maybe Tylee played loud music and whooped it up in the backyard. The noise was mentioned to police, but never reached the level of a noise complaint.
I just watched Dateline. I'm a bit disappointed. It was so choppy. Jmo
I sat up straight when she said she wasn't very close with Tylee.
I've been thinking about ineffective counsel. Right now, Lori is really the only one who can replace Means. Otherwise, if she's found guilty she can appeal on the grounds of ineffective counsel and hope her case for appeal is accepted. Surely he isn't acting like this on purpose assuming she has no real defense against charges? Jmo
I would do it then I will have attended Jodi Arias, Rebecca Zahau and now evil Lori. I will tell you, though, that Jodi Arias looked me up and down when I came in. It was beyond creepy and it was truly telling what kind of a person she is.Anybody besides me now have a burning desire to go to Rexburg Idaho on July 22, 2020?
Because I have airline and hotel miles just itching to be used.
What if Chad recruited him to get rid of M because she knew all about the kids? Very possible. He wasn’t believable anymore than M was.I didn't find MP and IP cute meet through dating app believable. Is there proof he was involved with Chad before that? Most of that seemed scripted. The longer the interview went, the less convincing her sweet portrayal of herself. IP seemed to be tense after she began talking about his wearing the wire. I remember him looking away at some point. I will go back and rewatch the body language but that incident is definitely not behind them.
I totally agree with you about the pool party. The main reason being this crew doesn’t seem to have friends. All the drama and murder happens within family confines. I am guessing that Lori , Alex and maybe Tylee played loud music and whooped it up in the backyard. The noise was mentioned to police, but never reached the level of a noise complaint.
Thank you for your perspective. I think they are dead though. I just can't imagine where they could be or why she isn't saying. Many, many why's. I'll have to be patient with the process.I agree. It is impossible to know at this point how much evidence the Feds have for the kids. I keep hoping they are alive, so I don't allow myself to go digging too far in areas that take me away from that hope. That Lori and Chad called MG to ask her to lie to LE is leans towards conspiracy but to what end? We don't know what evidence there is.
There seems to be enough evidence to charge conspiracy to commit murder for Charles and attempted murder for Brandon. The essence of conspiracy is an agreement of two or more persons to engage in some form of prohibited conduct, such as murder. The crime is complete upon agreement. It does not have to actually be carried out. That is the beauty of conspiracy which is so much easier to prove than murder. The Feds seem to make sure that cases are completely worked up before filing charges and I think they can still file an indictment after the State files charges. Arizona would have jurisdication for Charles and Brandon, but LE made a lot mistakes with Charles, so they may just let the Feds handle it. @AZlawyer what do you think?
The State of Idaho definately has evidence of conspiracy to commit murder for Tammy. Insanely stupid using Charles Vallow's Amazon account to buy wedding rings and have them delivered to yourself 17 days before Tammy's death. Then, the idiocy of have said rings photographed at your inappropriate beach wedding. There is that ski mask purchase as well...
I don’t know who IanP is... Did you read the thread and the wiki on what it’s about? Sounds like a lot of parallels to Chad’s beliefs and his own writing and the light/dark/sealed away stuff in his emails. It’s almost as if they believe they are the characters in the fantasy novels.
Yes, you get one free change of Judge, after that you have to show cause. Any lawyers here? Do you think "The Judge can't forget defense counsel was a complete idiot during the emergency hearing" will qualify as adequate cause?It won't be as easy this time. If I recall correctly, Idaho gives the defense one change judge without having to cite a reason. After that it is a much steeper slope.