If the plan was to be seen at the school.....

[WholeLottaRosie]

............and then leave the school after taking the picture at the science fair, then how in the world did TH figure out a way to get Kyron out of the school and feel secure enough that she wasn't seen? The school didn't call and say he was absent, so for all she knew they did see her leave with him. :waitasec:

My logical mind isn't wrapping around this theory. Help!

I don't know why, but, you have hit on the one thing that makes me doubt SM is involved. I can't get past this one in any way to make her look guilty.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I was just giving a senario that had been reported by friends etc. in approved media per TOS . YES in hind site, if the first account of telling the teacher that morn. is true she definately pointed a big finger right at herself!
It would not be a worry for her on an issue of leaving with Kyron. It wouldn't raise red flags.
What I can't stomach is the ensuing reports from her friends weeks later that she told them the teach. was new,deaf,etc. That was a big grasping turning point from Terri in MOO!
We don't know the 100% events that took place because we haven't been given much ino from LE:innocent:

There are so many rumours, speculation, interviews from friends it makes my head spin.:banghead::banghead::banghead:


As always this is :cow::cow::cow:

BBM

For sure, if TMH told her friend that the teacher was new, hard of hearing, etc, that would be a red flag.

The problem with that is something that can be seen right here on WebSleuths, despite the mods' best efforts at quashing unsupported rumours.

What one person says is not always what the next person hears. And what that person hears is not always exactly what they say to the next person. And so on.

Look at the number of times people have been asked for links to support an allegation and have been unable to provide one. I don't believe that those posters are lying; far from it. I believe that human memory is faulty and when there are many sources of information, the human memory starts to jumble them all up and confuse or conflate them.

So when I hear that a friend of TMH says that TMH told her something, I have to wonder did TMH really say that? Or did the friend read speculation or rumour somewhere and confuse it with something she thought TMH said?

 

[cluciano63]

I think she was more worried about making sure Kyron was seen after she left...and thought for sure he would be since she (said she) left him in the hall. Which she may have, to go pull truck around, but still, she probably figured someone would see Kyron in those few minutes, which would have been enough...only no one did...so it led back to her.

 

[DairyGirl]

I don't know why, but, you have hit on the one thing that makes me doubt SM is involved. I can't get past this one in any way to make her look guilty.

But for one fact. No one saw Kyron leave with anyone. Yet we know he had to because he is gone.

 

[jessigirl]

The problems with some of these scenarios is that she and Kyron could have been seen leaving the school. How could she count on the fact that nobody would see her? I think an accomplice was involved.

But then you have the exact same question you posed how would no one see them and count on that fact?
IMO much more likely to not draw any attn or even memory of him with stepmom.

And gwenabob after having seen all your pics from Skyline I believe your scenario is quite plausible.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

But for one fact. No one saw Kyron leave with anyone. Yet we know he had to because he is gone.

True, but, that doesn't mean the SM is responsible.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think she told him she was going to show him a "cool electric" something.

Yep I agree...then took him out for the shock of his life...It's like a little 'c'mon Kyron playing by the rules is so boring, let's go have a secret adventure, it'll be our little secret' well that's how I see it anyway....so typically psychopathic.

The poor kid probably thought she was finally giving him some much needed special attention.

 

[Charlie09]

It's the same at our daughter's school - all doors are locked from the outside but no alarm is sounded if they are opened from the inside.

Considering that it was science fair day I'm assuming that there were other parents coming and going that morning with their kids. If TH left with Kyron early enough that there was considerable parent and student traffic still arriving at the school that morning then there is a very good chance that no one would give a second look to a mom and her son heading to the parking lot, possibly to retrieve a forgotten piece of a project. There is a very good chance that they passed others while leaving but since everyone was focused on their own tasks they probably paid no attention to TH and Kyron.

My daughter goes to a smaller school - but it's k-8. I can tell you every parent I saw for K-3rd grade on promotion night. If I waved or said hello to any of the older kids or their parents, I could tell you who was there. I could also still tell you the two kids who didn't come - and there were more than 100 people there. I just don't buy that NO one saw them coming and going or getting into the truck together in the daytime, in the open, or didn't notice her pulled over at a weird spot.

 

[winterrose]

Everytime I think about anyone taking him that morning when he was so excited about the science fair,and other events of that day.The school picnic and end of year events,vacations coming for the summer,it makes me sick and so sad for this poor little child.I can't figure out for the life of me how he was taken out without anyone seeing him with anyone.Maybe someone helped by having a vehicle at the door and she went in her truck alone.This is the one thing that makes me question if it was her,but noone even saw her leave.

 

[Cher352]

............and then leave the school after taking the picture at the science fair, then how in the world did TH figure out a way to get Kyron out of the school and feel secure enough that she wasn't seen? The school didn't call and say he was absent, so for all she knew they did see her leave with him. :waitasec:

My logical mind isn't wrapping around this theory. Help!

BBM

Someone mentioned this another thread....

Maybe the email she sent to the teacher about when to pick up the project was sent as a test to see if she got away with Kyron unseen. If the teacher replied mentioning that they knew Kyron was with her when she left she would have to come up with another story to tell.

 

[Cher352]

This is why I think someone at the school could be involved...
I'd be looking at the teachers or other staff!

I am beginning to wonder too about that....again!

I remember the statement made by K & D about them working with Kyron on problems at school obeying or something like that. Don't know what it is but that statement along with the one where they talked about him staying in bed until someone went to get him up sounds weird.

Maybe someone at the school thought for some reason he would be better off without his real family. I thought about it several times when I recall the part about where the teacher brushed off the sub/helper when she mentioned about Kyron not being with the group that morning by saying he must have gone to the bathroom or to get a drink of water?

I don't know about this case at all, I tend to think one thing only to have it change again and again.

 

[carole]

Has LE actually stated that no one saw Kyron leave the school with Terri?

 

[Cher352]

Has LE actually stated that no one saw Kyron leave the school with Terri?

Come to think of it...no I don't believe so.

 

[sofia76]

My daughter goes to a smaller school - but it's k-8. I can tell you every parent I saw for K-3rd grade on promotion night. If I waved or said hello to any of the older kids or their parents, I could tell you who was there. I could also still tell you the two kids who didn't come - and there were more than 100 people there. I just don't buy that NO one saw them coming and going or getting into the truck together in the daytime, in the open, or didn't notice her pulled over at a weird spot.

I don't think most people are as attentive as you are. But it's also possible that someone did see him or Terri leave the school. LE interviewed several hundred people (more than once). The only person we (the public) have heard about is the classmate of Kyron, who was told by FBI not to talk to the media. Just because we haven't heard anything doesn't mean no one has reported seeing anything.

June 19th, Gates (LE) said, ""Terri is the last known person to have seen Kyron alive before he disappeared." (http://www.kval.com/news/local/96724314.html) This was after interviewing all the students and staff at the school, but before putting out the questionnaire. We haven't heard anything about the results of the questionnaire.

 

[DairyGirl]

True, but, that doesn't mean the SM is responsible.

All it means is he was able to be taken out unnoticed. By whomever.

Eta and no one noticed TH leaving.

 

[TobyWong*]

............and then leave the school after taking the picture at the science fair, then how in the world did TH figure out a way to get Kyron out of the school and feel secure enough that she wasn't seen? The school didn't call and say he was absent, so for all she knew they did see her leave with him. :waitasec:

My logical mind isn't wrapping around this theory. Help!

I have been in my sons school early in th morning when maybe only 3 other people have been there and maybe only been seen by one of them and that was from the other end of the hallway. I know if i go out the back or side door that I would'nt run into anyone. No alarms or cameras. During the day all doors are supposed to be locked but I have gained entry through the gym doors, the custodial doors or a back door propped open for air. I know that i could park right in the parking lot but near the end and could tell him to race me and I can go out one door and him out the closest side door and no one would know he had even been there. I believe she set this poor boy up. Prolly told him to go hang his stuff up in his room, took his picture and told him to race her down to the truck and they could go grab b'fast. Especially since she was known to be involved at this school. She would know that if she got there early she could set up her alibi and not care if people saw her. She was supposed to be there and so was Kyron. They just wer'nt supposed to leave together.

 

[oh_gal]

I think she hid in plain sight, so to speak. No one is going to think twice about a child walking with his mother. I think she knew there would be nobody paying attention and that no one saw her as they walked to the truck. I think if she did see someone she would have proceeded to plan B, act like nothing was wrong and continue to take him home and not take any action. Who knows, she may have tried this before and didn't carry it out because she knew she had been seen. This time she was confident that no one saw her because no one did. It would be much easier to take one's one child out then if a different person tried it.

I've always heard that the easiest thing to steal in store is a canoe. (Presumably because no one's going to question you carrying a canoe out -- they'd figure you bought it). Your theory made me think of that.

 

[cindysue]

Well we know she went early that day and from the picture she took there werent many people around at that time. She probably left shortly after that before most of the other people arrived. If someone else was responsible they would have to know just when he arrived and just hang around till TH left the school. If it was someone at the school they would have opportuinty to do it at any time during the school year, this was the only time probably that TH brought him to school cause he was a busrider usually.This was probably the only time she could pass his dissapearence off on someone else to, seriously what other opportunity might she have had other than this one? And if someone saw her go to the car with him she could always say they forgot something in the car and were retreiving it and that he later went back in and she waved to him goodbye from the hall. I mean no one is going to stand around and watch her every move there is always an excuse for your actions.

 

[evelyn24]

............and then leave the school after taking the picture at the science fair, then how in the world did TH figure out a way to get Kyron out of the school and feel secure enough that she wasn't seen? The school didn't call and say he was absent, so for all she knew they did see her leave with him. :waitasec:

My logical mind isn't wrapping around this theory. Help!

Well, he's missing, so someone was able to get him to leave without anyone noticing.
If anything, only someone who could blend in well, and only someone who had the power to manipulate Kyron's teacher into thinking he was leaving for the day, could get away with this because they never called home or reported him absent.

 

[SweetLaura286]

Well, he's missing, so someone was able to get him to leave without anyone noticing.

(Respectfully snipped by me)

Thank you for this comment. People seem so focused on how did she know she wasn't going to be seen? However, he dissappeared with SOMEONE (TH or not) unseen....