If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

[beccalecca1]

You know the kicker in this whole thing. And it didn't come out in trial. Casey never lifted up that phone for 31 days to report Caylee missing. She was quite busy I suppose. But the night that Cindy and George went out and confronted protestors, remember with that little wimpy garden hose as a weapon??? Casey picked that phone up and was quite demanding in her insistence that Law Enforcement get there quickly. Quite interesting that she could call the police on other people. But never bothered for 31 long days for her daughter.

BBM

And, I feel the same goes for GA. Quite interesting he'd call the police to report Gas cans with gas (totaling about $50) missing, but wouldn't call the police when he thought he smelled a dead body in the trunk and hadn't seen his granddaughter in a month. Since they both behave this way, I think it's fair to see them equally involved in whatever happened.

 

[beccalecca1]

Interesting statement from Juror JF in one of her interviews.

"Ford blames the media for much of what has happened after the verdict that led to much anger and many protests.

"I think the media helped them to determine what their thoughts are," she says. "I think the media helped to determine the case before the jury saw it."http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-ne...ing-ar-244875/

The media, she says. How about the common person being able to connect the dots? Sheesh.

Those dots are being provided by the media though, aren't they?

 

[Sustained]

THEORY ALERT! If he molested Casey, he probably did Caylee too and he knew it would be found in autopsy. Could explain why Casey was making up a fake nanny in order to leave the house WITH Caylee instead of leaving her with George. Most 20yr old single mothers I know of usually make up a reason to leave the child not take the child with her. Of Course JUST MY OPNION

I threw the molestation out a long time ago when I saw the jailhouse tape where FCA was telling GA what a great dad he was etc.

 

[Sustained]

BBM

And, I feel the same goes for GA. Quite interesting he'd call the police to report Gas cans with gas (totaling about $50) missing, but wouldn't call the police when he thought he smelled a dead body in the trunk and hadn't seen his granddaughter in a month. Since they both behave this way, I think it's fair to see them equally involved in whatever happened.

Everyone seems to forget that CA went to the tow yard with GA. It is possible and highly likely that CA told GA NOT to call 911 until they got the car home and got it cleaned to protect Princess FCA. Also IIRC, GA called the police about the shed break-in as he knew there were other similar burglaries in the neighborhood/general vicinity.

 

[grandmaj]

Hello----- I'm seeing many posts telling posters their reasoning is based on emotion. :nono: If a poster is pointing out their reasons for feeling Casey was guilty do not insult the person by diminishing their thoughts about the evidence as worthless or less than worthy because they are based on emotion. That is rude and dismissive. And it is personalizing posts.

Leave the personalization OUT.

If a poster were to say your theory was based on irrational thinking or an inability to connect the evidence, the alert button would be on fire!

Stop the dismissive games.

 

[beccalecca1]

Another big difference is,no one on this thread seems to have changed their position.
The jurors went from 10-2 on the Felony one vote,then 6-6 on the manslaughter,yet by halfway through the 2nd day you had 12 NG's . Something HINKY happened IMO.

BBM

The only thing I think was HINKY was the SA opinion of having a slam dunk case, so they didn't provide enough evidence that couldn't be refuted in court.

 

[beccalecca1]

The only reason this thread is so long is because all of us are saying the same things over and over again and it appears that all of us are a stubborn bunch:innocent:

:rocker::great:

You should get nominated for Quote of the day!! LOL

 

[beccalecca1]

This is emotion IMO. Everyone wants justice for Caylee and most feel that would have been giving CA the needle, some feel they need more proof before they can be 100% positive that CA is the right person and acted alone.

It's like a hit and run (I know nothing like a murder of a child) and you get the license plate number but you don't see the person driving. The cops go to the house and there are a possible 3 people in that home that could've been driving but they all deny it. Who do you charge?

ITA, and I don't feel that someone who believes in the verdict is someone who DOESN'T want justice for Caylee. If it was an accident, why put a needle in her arm out of anger? It's not justice, it's disgusting IMO.

 

[beccalecca1]

Really? Have you asked for any threads, quotes, directions, etc? It's such an easy nice thing.

I've asked for directions, and it is a nice thing. But, at the point of the comment there were many pages to this thread and the posts were out there for anyone to find. And, the person I did write this post to did find the comments I was referring to.

On a side note, I did direct this poster to the correct thread, just not the correct page/post. It wasn't that hard for them to find.

 

[beccalecca1]

bbm
:floorlaugh: Did you watch the same trial we did? :waitasec:

BTW jurors shouldn't twist AT ALL.

Actually, what is the definition of deliberations? Isn't that where jurors discuss what they feel is the verdict? (ie. twisting?)

 

[Sustained]

BBM

The only thing I think was HINKY was the SA opinion of having a slam dunk case, so they didn't provide enough evidence that couldn't be refuted in court.

Who from the SA's office said they had a slam dunk case ? Or was that the opinion of some legal pundits ?

 

[Sustained]

ITA, and I don't feel that someone who believes in the verdict is someone who DOESN'T want justice for Caylee. If it was an accident, why put a needle in her arm out of anger? It's not justice, it's disgusting IMO.

FCA knew the State was seeking the DP early on ... if it was accident, why did not she not admit it to get the DP off the table ?

 

[beccalecca1]

No way GA-ex LE or CA- nurse wouldn't have called 911.

IMO that point is moot really.....GA would have called 911 as would CA.

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GA didn't call 911 at the towyard when he found the car with a death smell and didn't call 911 once he got home after driving the car that smelled like death. Ex-LE didn't feel it's necessary to call LE unless his gas cans were stolen.

 

[beccalecca1]

It isn't emotion.

For 3 years I studied this case, the docs, the facts and then watched the trial.

Circumstantial evidence was presented during trial. The evidence, the testimony and common sense confirmed my opinion that FCA killed her daughter.
It's such a logical, normal way to reach a conclusion. The jury imo failed and failed miserably. As stated before, it's no wonder most of them are in hiding.

Are you suggesting that those who disagree lack common sense, are illogical, and abnormal? Just out of curiosity.

 

[grandmaj]

Are you suggesting that those who disagree lack common sense, are illogical, and abnormal? Just out of curiosity.

I said KNOCK it off. Stop personalizing posts. The emotional posts were out of line and have no place in a debate. It is a very dismissive attitude.

No one suggested that "those that disagree" are anything. Poster spoke of her opinion of the jury .

This is exactly what I referred to in this post. STOP.

Hello----- I'm seeing many posts telling posters their reasoning is based on emotion. :nono: If a poster is pointing out their reasons for feeling Casey was guilty do not insult the person by diminishing their thoughts about the evidence as worthless or less than worthy because they are based on emotion. That is rude and dismissive. And it is personalizing posts.

Leave the personalization OUT.

If a poster were to say your theory was based on irrational thinking or an inability to connect the evidence, the alert button would be on fire!

Stop the dismissive games.

 

[dvdman]

Good morning it's July 21, 2011 and I still believe the Jury got it wrong big time.

 

[beccalecca1]

I disagree. For the reason that Casey and George did not have the relationship dynamic that would have permitted the sort of plot you put forward. To be in league together to protect Cindy as you suggest, would require a level of trust that the two did not have. When Casey found out she was pregnant, she did not run to George for help. Cindy handled Casey's messes. George was marginalized and allowed himself to be. No way I can see him and Casey working together. And all of this *noble* conspiring to protect Cindy? Why should Casey want to protect Cindy from pain? She didn't give a rat's paw about her for the 31 days. But she did when she let George triple bag Caylee and throw her in the swamp? Oh, wait. I forgot about Kronk. He had to be brought in to help pull this off somehow. Let's see---where can we work him in? Meanwhile, her daughter and his granddaughter decomposed in a swamp all to protect Cindy? Help me understand how that makes thing go more "smoothly".

MO

IMO, sometimes tragedies bring people or families together when they weren't together in the least bit prior. Sometimes the trust is developed with the theory that "if you tell on me, I'll tell on you" (brothers and sisters behave this way all the time).

MOO

 

[Trident]

Good morning it's July 21, 2011 and I still believe the Jury got it wrong big time.

And I still believe the jury was "right on". Just another day in Paradise.

 

[beccalecca1]

Cindy lied on the stand to COVER FOR HER DAUGHTER. It isn't like she made herself look good doing that.

I'm sorry, I don't see the logic is saying because FCA lived in the house with other people it is "too hard" to figure out who did it.

BBM

Casey didn't just live in a house with other people, she lived in the house with other people who lied and tampered with evidence. That's what makes it hard to figure out what happened or who was involved.

 

[annalia]

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GA didn't call 911 at the towyard when he found the car with a death smell and didn't call 911 once he got home after driving the car that smelled like death. Ex-LE didn't feel it's necessary to call LE unless his gas cans were stolen.

But 911 WAS called by Cindy, they live in the same house, were together at the time, no logical reason that both of them needed to call. Do you know if they decided together that Cindy would call 911?