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''Czworniak, a retired Chicago police homicide detective, said he believes Dermot killed himself and was swept away by the river, but there are loose threads to the disappearance he wishes he could pull together.Update: Dermot's case was reopened!
47 years later: Investigator has hunch in teen's disappearance | The Times
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Gee. An introspective boy who had been despondent left his house with a shotgun. I wonder what could have happened.'
Also, in reporting Dermot missing, his parents said Dermot was an introspective boy who had been despondent.''
Gee. An introspective boy who had been despondent left his house with a shotgun. I wonder what could have happened.
Great article. Posting an updated link below:Update: Dermot's case was reopened!
47 years later: Investigator has hunch in teen's disappearance | The Times
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I just noticed something in the article that I never noticed before when reading about Dermot's case. It says Dermot's parents reported him missing TWO HOURS after he left the house. He went out to do some target shooting at 1:15pm so that means he was reported missing at around 3:15pm. Even though it was January that's still about three hours before dark. Why did they report him missing so quickly? It sounds as if they had reason to believe he might have harmed himself or come to harm somehow.
Even if he'd been instructed to return within an hour, a two-hour absence doesn't necessarily mean anything is amiss, much less that police needed to be called. I would imagine a lot of teen boys could easily let time get away with them if they were actually out in the woods target shooting. When I was a teenage girl I frequently forgot to watch the clock when I was out somewhere having fun, even outdoors in frigid winter temperatures. When you're young you don't seem to get cold as quickly or pay as much attention to it.
I think one or both of the parents knew he wasn't in a good frame of mind when he left the house. Him not returning within two hours appears to have raised feelings of alarm, so much so that he was reported as a missing person. I'm surprised police would respond so quickly for a teen who was only gone for two hours. If this were a toddler or small child, yes. But the parents must have told police something that indicated Dermot might not be okay.
This is a great question!If he did take his life and was swept in currents under the ice, where should we look for does found in the river?
This is a great question!
I believe that there are thousands of people and vehicles that are in water, either due to accidental drownings or suicides. Sadly, jumping into water and forcing a drowning is probably the easiest way to a suicide/drowning to avoid being found. In Dermot's case, I believe that he wanted to kill himself and make sure that his body never resurfaced. See previous posts from me as to why.
It is a very expensive and tremendous undertaking to do underwater searches for the missing. Funding is hard, unless it is somebody famous, or a very wealthy who can work with LE and other resources, investigating rivers and lakes does not happen nearly as often as it should.
Of several cases that I have studied I believe that the remains of Dermot Kelly, Claude and Sue Shelton, and Farren Stanberry are all in bodies of water. (See these other two cases for my details and comments.) It is a painfully sad ending, but for most people who want to die and not be found, jump into a body of water can avoid detection in an investigation. Heartbreaking to think about, let alone to say. However, I think that so many people missing for years, their remains would be found, if more waterways were searched. You can't begin unless a family member wants to do it, and has the funds to make it happen. Legal and environmental resources and red tape can delay these operations for years.
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Please see my post. (About the hitchhikers in WV 1972).Update: Dermot's case was reopened!
47 years later: Investigator has hunch in teen's disappearance | The Times
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