GUILTY IL - Elyse Mamino charged in death of newborn, nearly killing 2nd baby, 2007 & 2008

[Kymistry35]

I wish that they would charge the social workers who gave that precious baby back to that monster!

 

[Lyn1001]

I'm sorry, but I have to chime in. Please know what I say is with full respect to everyone's opinions. In regards to the state giving the woman her child back, we do not know the full story. Often times workers are ordered to return children home by the court, against the worker's recommendation. There are also other things that could be involved that we know nothing about. I know first hand that the media does not even get HALF the facts straight a good percentage of the time when reporting on these types of things. And workers aren't allowed to defend themselves and place blame where blame is due. I am not saying that this is the case here, but it may be. We just don't know. Also, on the flip side, workers get slammed no matter what they do. If they remove kids, it's without justification and the workers are screwing things up. If the workers don't remove kids, they should have. Workers, in general, go by a set of guidelines and what the court says. Workers are not mind readers. Hindsight is 20/20. After something happens, it's easy to say what should have been done. It's before something happens that it's hard. I know often times, if a child is returned home, services are put in the home for a period of time and parents will still have to complete services. If there are no indications that anything is wrong, then they can close the case. Also, obviously, LE did not have enough to arrest the woman at the time. If they did not have enough to do that, imagine what proof the state may or may not have had to present to the court to keep the child out of the home. All her attorney has to argue is that she hasn't been arrested so (in legal spin) that means there isn't evidence she did it. Make sense?

Okay, I'm done. Hope I didn't offend anyone. I'm guilty of going off and forming opinions based on what little information I receive. Just reminding myself and others that what's reported isn't always the whole story.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

BELLEVILLE, Ill. (KMOV) -- Police are investigating if new charges could be filed against Elyse Mamino, the 23-year-old Belleville woman who allegedly tried to drown her infant. The newborn involved in the incident survived and had been given back to Mamino.

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A judge unsealed juvenile court records for News 4 which show Mamino gave birth to two babies in 14-months. Both of Mamino’s babies were born in bathrooms, only one survived.

While Mamino faces an attempted murder charge after the birth of her second baby, police in Belleville are investigating whether she murdered her first child.



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http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stor...090304-belleville-infant-autopsy.2c856e8.html

 

[wildTrose]

in this link:
http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov-st-louis-news-090203-baby-toilet.1b3a98ac.html

it says the baby was rescued and is in the care of relatives....
Police say Mamino delivered a baby girl in a Columbia home's bathroom in November and tried to drown her in the toilet. The baby was rescued and is in a relative's care.
so which s it? lol your right about the media not getting the facts straight!!
one says one thing and another says something totally different!

 

[Salem]

I wish that they would charge the social workers who gave that precious baby back to that monster!

You know, they really should bring some kind of charges against the Department. Maybe not the specific social worker, depending upon the circumstances, but if LE strenuously objected to the child being returned, I do not believe any judge in his/her right mind would allow the child to go back. Which says to me, it was entirely the decision of CPS.

If this baby would have died at the hands of this monster, who then would be responsible? I think the responsibility would have to be shared between CPS and this crazy mother, who is obviously very very ill in her head.

AND I think CPS has NO excuse if LE objected. LE rarely becomes involved in the decisions of CPS.

My opinion,

Salem

 

[STEADFAST]

in this link:
http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov-st-louis-news-090203-baby-toilet.1b3a98ac.html

it says the baby was rescued and is in the care of relatives....
Police say Mamino delivered a baby girl in a Columbia home's bathroom in November and tried to drown her in the toilet. The baby was rescued and is in a relative's care.
so which s it? lol your right about the media not getting the facts straight!!
one says one thing and another says something totally different!

The baby was in her mother's care after it got out of the hospital, but once LE put a case together to charge the mother with attempted murder and arrested her, they removed the baby girl from her home and it was put in a relative's care. The sentence is strange because, while it's technically true, it leaves out the hospital stay and the returning of the baby to her murderous mom. In other words, "was rescued" (from the toilet) and "now" (at this moment) "is in a relative's care."

 

[OkieGranny]

From March 2014:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_f3c897d0-6cbd-5f40-af49-7c9fae0731be.html

A Belleville woman, in prison for trying to kill one newborn, was charged Friday with murdering another newborn in 2007.

Elyse J. Mamino is serving a six-year prison sentence for trying to drown her newborn baby in a toilet during a party at a home in Columbia, Ill., in November 2008. She pleaded guilty to attempted first-degree murder in October 2009...

But it took several years before police developed undisclosed new information that allowed them to file murder charges against Mamino. Now, she faces charges of first-degree murder and concealment of a homicidal death.

From July 2015:

http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article25975600.html

She told detectives that she watched her newborn son take a couple of breaths, then wrapped him in a towel, placed him in a plastic bag and left it in a drawer in her basement and she “never looked at the baby again”...

Elyse J. Mamino, 30, pleaded guilty but mentally ill on Wednesday to involuntary manslaughter and concealment of a homicidal death of that unnamed baby.

She could face between 12 to 17 years on the charges when she is sentenced later.

Sentencing was scheduled for August 19, but I can't find any MSM and her Illinois DOC record still only shows the attempted murder sentence.

https://www.illinois.gov/IDOC/Offender/Pages/InmateSearch.aspx

 

[OkieGranny]

From November:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_fd8a7eff-902f-565f-9f42-ce7219720afc.html

A Belleville woman was sentenced Thursday to 15 years in prison for killing her baby boy by wrapping him in a towel and hiding him in her basement.