rainyday412
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I think we're also assuming he was making the purchase for himself.
His toxicology showed marijuana in his system.
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I think we're also assuming he was making the purchase for himself.
His toxicology showed marijuana in his system.
I think we're also assuming he was making the purchase for himself.
Also, has anyone been able to clarify whether JD was retrieved from the water with all teeth missing, some teeth missing, or if they were all (or some) removed by the coroner? If he was found with no teeth, anyone know why a coroner would saw his jawbone out, and if there were some teeth, why dental records couldn't be used. That sounds really conflicting, IMO.
What evidence do we have of foul play in Jelani's death?
I've unfortunately had a personal experience with drug psychosis. I also got in my car and travelled some distance before I was stopped and arrested. You can be high functioning during these hallucinations or at least I was. Taking his car tags off, ditching his wallet, and turning off his phone tells me he was running from something whether it was real or not. And yes I agree there isn't enough evidence to make the claim he was mentally ill, but the behavior of begging for money every 2 hours to go on these spontaneous trips is suspicious to me. Also his mother wanting the FBIs help, but then refusing the personality evaluation is strange too. I believe she believes this was foul play and doesn't want to accept that maybe her son did this to himself. No disrespect to the family as I feel awful for them. I do not know their internal thoughts. Just my amateur theory/opinion.
New Details On Body Pulled From River In Peru
Sept 7, 2021
It was a man's body pulled out of the Illinois River in Peru this past Saturday,
La Salle County Coroner Rich Ploch says while an autopsy revealed the body to be that of a man, they may not find out who the deceased person is for weeks or months due to the condition of the body.
Multiple LE agencies and the FBI have provided zero indication that Jelani's disappearance and death were the results of a crime.
My opinion is not without digging deep for information but with the MSM facts available thus far, IMO, the only possibility I see that might place Jelani in harms way includes money issues where JL may have borrowed/owed the wrong person. However, chances appear better where JD could get money from at least six other individuals without having to borrow.
We also know he was described as loud and liked to debate but there's no indication he was ever disrespectful and the target of somebody he crossed.
Without credible evidence, I have to agree with the authorities -- I don't see JD being the victim of a random crime plausible.
What evidence do we have of foul play in Jelani's death?
Have the authorities confirmed he was not a victim of a random crime? Or just not released evidence of such? Only thing I've read is them saying the details they're aware of in his case are unusual.
Well, I think since there was no announcement that foul play was ruled out following the autopsy, it can't be taken off the table.
Respectfully, that's not how it works. The advantages of being able to classify an investigation as potentially "foul play" versus "suspicious" are tremendous for investigators including the ability to obtain search warrants.
We learned earlier that investigators were having to rely on subpoenas which is what authorities have to use when they cannot qualify any evidence of a crime (i.e., probable cause standards). This applies to all investigations and not just Jelani -- despite the allegations launched by family and their spokespersons. MOO
What specific evidence are you relying on for this opinion that foul play is a strong possibility? I'm very interested in what you see that authorities are not seeing. I've noted my own thoughts regarding foul play (based on profiling) but it's very weak.Actually, that's exactly how it works. An autopsy is required to rule out foul play, and since the investigation is ongoing, foul play has not been ruled out.
The question was what evidence do we have of foul play in Jelani's death. I'm simply implying foul play has not been ruled out, and we simply don't know if there's evidence.
ETA: But based on the facts that we do know, IMO, foul play is a strong possibility.
I believe solving this case is going to be by understanding Jelani's state of mind leading up to the date/time of his disappearance. Why did Jelani abandon his schedule, appointments without notice, change his clothes, and head to the weed store? What caused this change in his "normal" behavior leaving him vulnerable to a perp (or himself)?The problem the family is having IMO is that there is no known, released evidence of a crime... Which leads to asking -- is there no evidence because there was no crime? Have they not found any evidence because the person who committed the crime covered their tracks? Or are they not able/willing to invest thoroughly?
The family seems to think it is the latter.
If LE had evidence that needs more investigation, they're not going to announce 'hey we have unknown fingerprints we're trying to ID' or 'the driver's seat was in a position that isn't consistent with JD'. Is there evidence of a crime and the family and public don't know? It's possible. And it would be responsible for them to not broadcast that.
If there is simply no evidence of another person involved but nothing obvious indicating suicide, that makes it difficult for LE to conclusively determine. And that will leave the family and community in a very difficult state of flux.
I mentioned the example of Texas student Jason Landry earlier and just remembered 16- year old Karlie Guse (still missing). The difference with Karlie is she was in a weed-induced psychosis at home with her family, asked for help, and the parents believed it was "only weed" and would wear off by morning.
I agree. I don’t think I’ve ever followed a case where there was such inaccurate reporting.
From our own sleuthing, Jelani appeared to like community social work. I'm not so sure that he was ready for the path of a rigorous Masters program before the Doctorate. The financial and driving problems are concerning -- he had yet another speeding ticket on August 20, 2021!
Just days before his death, he talked to a Danville elder that was ready to name him head of a youth program. From the link up-thread:
Ed Butler said he spoke with him just days before he went missing.
"Had a real good talk with him. We sat down and talked, and I was going to have him be my youth director and chairperson in my NAACP, and he was really enthused about it," said the Danville NAACP President.