IL - Kenneka Jenkins, 19, found dead in hotel freezer, Rosemont, 10 Sept 2017 #2

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This case has really shaken me because I realize that several times in my life, this could have been me.

I came across this picture the other day and it’s mortifying for me to see (let alone share), but it also gave me a lot of perspective when the new pictures came out.
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This is me after a night I blacked out...zero recollection after a certain point. I didn’t even drink *that* much, but I didn’t eat much beforehand and I didn’t space my drinks out.

From what I was told, I was walking around and talking right before this picture was taken...but then I decided to go lay down in the bathroom. Notice the position I’m laying in, how low my pants come down in the back, my shoes are missing, one of the shirts I had on is missing, and my hair is super matted. This was all my own doing. I am so incredibly fortunate I had friends with me that night that made sure I made it home and was safe.

Needless to say, I am especially careful about my drinking now, especially after this case slapped me in the face.


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I applaud you and the other persons comments about the effects of alcohol. I have been in this situation more than a dozen times, I'm 42 years old and I can't believe I haven't killed myself because of my own actions. You get that wasted and all you want to do is sleep and I think KJ probably did try her best to get out of that cooler but the alcohol made her helpless and she simply dozed off.
 
I’m just going to reiterate that topmax is a drug that you have to taper on to because it can cause heat rash. I can only imagine it being given as a recreational drug if it looked like something else.
As it was present at ‘therapeutic’ levels, I suspect that Kenneka was taking it for weight loos (or to prevent migraines).
 
Not me. I was thinking the same thing when her friends checked the women's bathroom for her, but not the men's. What if she'd passed out in the men's before going back to the kitchen? It's just not what we think.

I believe the guy who found her was either assigned or took it upon himself to search freezers and fridges. His interview or the police report containing him says something to that effect.

I feel sorry for Irene. She said people were showing up to threaten her at her house. She has a child. How dare people act like that.
Me either, any normal person would look in the obvious places NOT a freezer in a hotel basement. This girl met her demise at her own hand. I'm going to try and keep my mouth shut now before I say too much and get myself banned.
 
I read in one of their witness interviews, I believe it was bre bre's, that they went to the liquor store and to get weed and an E pill. Whoever that pill was for took it before the party started. The interview claimed they only bought one.

I'd really like to know where KJ got the topamax and how quickly it metabolizes.
 
I’m just going to reiterate that topmax is a drug that you have to taper on to because it can cause heat rash. I can only imagine it being given as a recreational drug if it looked like something else.
As it was present at ‘therapeutic’ levels, I suspect that Kenneka was taking it for weight loos (or to prevent migraines).

All I've been doing for an hour is reading about how people use this drug to get high and the overdose on it. People get high offf glue and licking frogs, so it's not a stetch to me that they try any drug they can.

Her mom said she wasn't perscribed it.
 
I really don't understand all the thoughts I'm seeing from all over that this was something more than a tragic accident. She was heavily inebriated, apparent from the video. I use to think movies like the hangover were impossible, no one could be *that* drunk, until I was once. I woke up with a broken finger, no clothes, scratches all down my back...with zero recollections from had happened. My point being that yes, a sober person might just feel for a handle and open it and get out. But a drunk person doesn't have the luxury of clear thinking, and that self inflicted injuries when confused/panic/scared are really not that odd.

I also saw someone mention her pants were lower than what they should have been...I have never found a pair of jeans that stay up if I sit/bend over unless extremely high waisted.


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I hope you eventually found out what happened to you! Sounds like quite a story! *lol*
 
All I've been doing for an hour is reading about how people use this drug to get high and the overdose on it. People get high offf glue and licking frogs, so it's not a stetch to me that they try any drug they can.

Her mom said she wasn't perscribed it.

I have read as much as I can about people using it to get high. Another reason I decided to taper off it (with medical supervision). That said, people have posted on here who also take it for legitimate reasons and didn't find it as awful as me.
 
I've been following some of the people on Facebook who believe Kenneka was murdered. In their minds, the new pictures just confirm what they already believe. I can understand why they feel that way, because the pictures are pretty shocking. I still believe it was an accident, but I thought we would see her curled up in a fetal position or something. It looks like she tried hard to get out of there, and that is so sad to think about.
 
I’m just going to reiterate that topmax is a drug that you have to taper on to because it can cause heat rash. I can only imagine it being given as a recreational drug if it looked like something else.
As it was present at ‘therapeutic’ levels, I suspect that Kenneka was taking it for weight loos (or to prevent migraines).

I bolded this because I agree and this misconception has been driving me a little batty.
My girls were both on Topamax (and most other meds at some point) for seizures as younger children.
I didn't find it awful although it made one child violent. We had no other issues with it.
I was on it as well and had no issues. However I have never needed to taper off of any med. I'm weird.

HOWEVER, ONE DOSE DOES NOT EQUAL THERAPEUTIC LEVELS.

It would take at least a few days of taking it consistently to get to therapeutic levels.
Many of these meds they actually do blood work to determine when the levels are high enough.
There is simply no way she took a Topamax pill at this party and a few hours later had therapeutic levels.
If that was the case it would not take 2 weeks to determine if a medication was going to work.
How much easier it would have been if you knew within 72 hours!

Therapeutic levels mean that K was taking Topamax regularly, prescribed or not.


All I've been doing for an hour is reading about how people use this drug to get high and the overdose on it. People get high offf glue and licking frogs, so it's not a stetch to me that they try any drug they can.

Her mom said she wasn't perscribed it.

She could have been taking it regularly without a prescription too.
Maybe a friend had been on it and stopped and K asked for it, for weight loss or migraines.
Another off label use for Topamax I haven't seen mentioned is impulse control.

Using old medications out of someones cupboard are very common for this age range.
However, she could have had a prescription her mom didn't know about too.
After all, her Mom also thought she was going bowling. :twocents:
 
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Doesn't work for me either, but it did last night. That is an interesting development. And the exact reason I immediately download any case documents that get released! Not uncommon for them to disappear.
 
I've been following some of the people on Facebook who believe Kenneka was murdered. In their minds, the new pictures just confirm what they already believe. I can understand why they feel that way, because the pictures are pretty shocking. I still believe it was an accident, but I thought we would see her curled up in a fetal position or something. It looks like she tried hard to get out of there, and that is so sad to think about.

Also once people have decided... confirmatory bias often takes over.
They will only look for the things that fit their theory and twist anything else in order to make it fit.
This is what leads to innocent people being convicted... because the cops decide they are guilty and ignore evidence that exonerates them.
Even when presented with actual GPS, hospital or even jail records giving the person an airtight alibi.
It is so important to keep an open mind.
 
This case has really shaken me because I realize that several times in my life, this could have been me.

I came across this picture the other day and it’s mortifying for me to see (let alone share), but it also gave me a lot of perspective when the new pictures came out.
4e6d1382d02e5afcf18651e4c035d304.jpg

This is me after a night I blacked out...zero recollection after a certain point. I didn’t even drink *that* much, but I didn’t eat much beforehand and I didn’t space my drinks out.

From what I was told, I was walking around and talking right before this picture was taken...but then I decided to go lay down in the bathroom. Notice the position I’m laying in, how low my pants come down in the back, my shoes are missing, one of the shirts I had on is missing, and my hair is super matted. This was all my own doing. I am so incredibly fortunate I had friends with me that night that made sure I made it home and was safe.

Needless to say, I am especially careful about my drinking now, especially after this case slapped me in the face.


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Sometimes you just gotta take a lil nap! [emoji4]

I think your pic (thank you for being open and sharing it!) is a good example of how one could end up in the position KJ was in.

I remember losing my balance on a step in a bar once, and then just laying back, even though I was in everyone's way lol. It just felt so good to rest a moment....
 
I bolded this because I agree and this misconception has been driving me a little batty.
My girls were both on Topamax (and most other meds at some point) for seizures as younger children.
I didn't find it awful although it made one child violent. We had no other issues with it.
I was on it as well and had no issues. However I have never needed to taper off of any med. I'm weird.

HOWEVER, ONE DOSE DOES NOT EQUAL THERAPEUTIC LEVELS.

It would take at least a few days of taking it consistently to get to therapeutic levels.
Many of these meds they actually do blood work to determine when the levels are high enough.
There is simply no way she took a Topamax pill at this party and a few hours later had therapeutic levels.
If that was the case it would not take 2 weeks to determine if a medication was going to work.
How much easier it would have been if you knew within 72 hours!

Therapeutic levels mean that K was taking Topamax regularly, prescribed or not.




She could have been taking it regularly without a prescription too.
Maybe a friend had been on it and stopped and K asked for it, for weight loss or migraines.
Another off label use for Topamax I haven't seen mentioned is impulse control.

Using old medications out of someones cupboard are very common for this age range.
However, she could have had a prescription her mom didn't know about too.
After all, her Mom also thought she was going bowling. :twocents:

There isn't enough information to say that she wanted to lose weight or that she had migraines. If she was taking it normally, then her mother probably would have found more in her room or her posession.

I don't know, without reading a police report, that her mom "thought she was going bowling." Her friends state that they were going to the movies before this party idea came up.

I also can't speak to what would be in KJ system at "therapeudic" levels or not without being a medical professional. We don't even know how many she took, the dosage, whether they'd been crushed, or when she took them to make any determination. Even if she was using it to get high, we have no idea how many times that week, that day or that month she'd done it before this happened to build up that level.

What if she took 6 of the pills at once?, being 1200mg? Would that translate to 3000ng left in her system by the time she died? would 2? How does it metabolize? When does one reach therapeudic levels? How many doses does that take and at how many mg? I just read a person took half a bottle. What would be in their system on the tox report?

Are you a doctor or a pharmicist to help me understand this?

Some of her friends said in interviews that she was going to have to take a drug test. So maybe she decided to take this pill so the other drugs wouldn't show up in her system.If she took the pills between 1130pm and 3am, what would show upon her tox report? Do you have an experienced opinion about it? Can you tell how much she metabolized versus didn't by her autopsy?
 
Eyewitnesses:

KJ's cousin, a Gangster Disciples gang member, arrived about 2am. interview summary says:

"He stated since it has been a while since he has seen his cousin, he walked up to her to say hi where she was sitting on the edge of the bed. He stated that when she stud up to give him a hug she started to stumble and was swaying like she was drunk. He stated that after she gathered her self they both gave each other a hug. He stated that she seemed drunk and that she had been drinking a lot. He stated that he knows that she does not smoke weed but was not sure if she took any pills or ecstasy.

He stated that while he was in the room he did not see anyone take any pills or ecstasy but people were smoking weed and drinking. He stated that he remembers approx. around 0300 Hrs. Kenneka and her two friends BLANK and BLANK were getting ready to leave the party and walked out of the room and a few seconds later BLANK walked back in looking for Kenneka’s phone. He stated that approx. 30-40 minutes after Kenneka left the room him and his two brothers “Quam” and “Pucky” left the party."

He further says that he heard from the friends in the lobby that KJ was missing but the friends didn't act concerned because she couldhave left with someone else.

We know KJ isn't leaving with anyone else because she had her mom's car, and she was very concerned about getting a $200 fine over it not being validated, according to other interviews.

One other person I read about cites that just one friend returned to th room, also, but most people say two.

Quan, Gangster Disciples member summary of summary interview:

Arrived with person above at 2am. Said drinking and drugs going around. He states no times, but he says at some point one of KJ's friends said she was missing. Some looked for her but then gave up, deciding she'd left with another friends, as they are all friends who party together. He advised that there were a variety of gangs represented at the party.

Killa, member of Vice Lords Gang, interview summary of summary:

It was his birthday in addition to Irene. Arrived 1-130am.

"[Killer] said that everyone “drinks, does pills and smokes” and that it was no different at this party. [Killer] further advised that Jenkins had been drinking Hennessey while at the party. [Killer] stated that Jenkins and “the girls” have taken pills (ecstasy) and smoked in the past but was unsure if they had the night of the party. He did not see Jenkins or her friends take pills on the night of the party, but knows “they were doing it.”[Killer] stated no one at the party had ill intentions and it was a relaxed “chill” party with people having fun and hanging out."

He claims to have left at 3am and said KJ was still in the room when he departed. a
 
More Eyewitnesses:

Mike-Mike (AKA Bibby) Vice Lords gang member Summary of interview summary:


Arrived around 1am, left between 2-3am, but also states he left after Irene's first Live. People interviewed said her live was around 130am or before party got crowded. (Need more statement to corroborate this, though, I believe it's accurate because of how quiet the room was.per othr interviews, Bre-bre and Co were responsible for bringing the bluetooth speaker Irene was using. So that's why I think he's right about when the live was.)

" [Bibby] stated there was liquor and drugs going around. He advised that Jenkins was “on the verge” of being drunk before he left. She had been drinking Hennessey he believed. [Bibby] has seen her drunk and high in the past, but he claimed “not like that.” He further mentioned that the groups of friends do pills (ecstasy), smoke marijuana and drink liquor at parties. He could not recall if any pills were at the party, but knows people “were on them.” Liquor and marijuana was “ going around.” [Bibby] was adamant that everyone there was just “hanging out and chilling calmly” and “no one hurt nobody or was out to get anybody.” [Bibby] said there was no arguments, sexual activity or suspicious actions while he was at the party, and afterwards, from what he was told. advised that Jenkins was not a “get down” girl, which he explained that she was not “sleeping around.” She liked to party but always nice and social. He advised no sexual activity takes place when they have parties, and none took place during the party in question as well. is a self-admitted member of the “Travelers” (Traveling Vice Lords) gang. He stated that there were guys from other gangs too, but they all hang out at parties and there’s no issues and were no issues at the party as well."

(Okay, I think this is Mike-mike, AKA bibby, but the interview statement of this "fact" is kind of confusing, so let me know if that's not correct. I am adding names in brackets to the summary, so that's why I ask for correction if needed.)

Smiley (possibly Natae) Summary of inteview summary:

Arrived about 130am. (Note: just about everyone says the party was in 926. No one I'm reading about mentions any other room or changing rooms)

"When asked what activities were taking place within the room at the time she arrived, stated that individuals were: drinking, smoking marijuana, and taking various pills. The group was also playing music in the room. When asked about what type of pills folks were taking, was unable to provide specifics. When asked if she had consumed alcohol, smoked marijuana, or taken any pills, denied having taken part in any of those activities.

[Smiley] "stated that she did smoke marijuana prior to coming to the Crowne Plaza. [Smiley] stated that she was in the 2nd Facebook Live video. She described herself as having been dressed in a Blue jean jacket, Pink shirt, and also wearing a tie dye headband. [Smiley] stated to me that she was standing next to Kenneka (Jenkins). [Smiley] also stated that she was in the bathroom video where Kenneka was standing behind her."

Smiley left around 3am. She couldn't say much about KJ's activities.

Unknown female summary of interview Summary:

Arrived about 145am. Remembers security arriving about an hour later to quell the noise. Recalled tht KJ didn't seem like herself and was sad at times, but dancing at times. She is one of the very few who said KJ was drinking and smoking weed. She left about 245am.

Dean's summary of interview summary:

I think this person is named Dean. He said

"advised that he remembers Jenkins drinking heavily from a Hennessey bottle while at the party. He knows there was drug use at the party, including marijuana but could not recall any other drugs being used. He remembers Jenkins was sitting near the bed talking with friends and there was nothing suspicious taking place and no cause for concern. There were no arguments, no unwanted subjects, and people were “having a good time.”

"He stated that when Jenkins was leaving, she was “drunk and stumbling” toward the door and then left with blank and blank. he was unable to provide additional descriptors or identifying information for the subjects. They were later identified as blank and blank. He recalls one of the females came back into the room a short time later looking for keys and a cell phone, which BLANK had (identified as BLANK ). They then left the room again. A short time later ( was unable to recall how long), Blank and BLANK returned and advised that Jenkins was not in the hallway and they were “not sure where she went.” They began to search the area of the hotel and unable to locate Jenkins."

So it looks like some people say one friend returned to the room. Others say two.It also seems Bre-Bre, who wasn't there at the time, might have had the car keys.
 
Thanks so much for posting. I wasn’t able to access the files on my phone
 
Teresa Martin's Interview Summary:

I believe this is Kenneka's mom, but names are redacted.

TM says KJ went to a hotel party with friends and left the house about 2330 (1130pm). She says she was contacted more than once about missing KJ. Friends said they couldn't find KJ but she wasn't missing. Next call, they said they still couldn't find her.

Security guard weirdness summary:

The security guard claims he went up twice to see about the noise. He said he also got a call around 0300 hours that three girls were roaming the 9th floor. When he got there, one said they were looking for her sister. He told them to go back to their room or go to the lobby, and they needed to ask the front desk about reviewing security. They went to the room.

What I found weird is that the security person said he was about to leave the country. Maybe conincidental, but weird in light of the incident.

This pegs KJ, when paired with other accounts, to have gone missing about 3 to 310am. KJ gets off the elevator at 324am. So she has unaccounted for time. I wonder where was. In an elevator that wasn't moving or on another guest floor?

Once, In cancun, a friend and I got high. We got in an elevator to take a cab to a club. We were primping in the elevator's mirrored walls, laughed and giggled. I don't know how much time passed, but we eventually realized the elevator wasn't moving because we hadn't pressed a button.

Unknown female summary of interview summary:

This female didn't know KJ, but she said there were drugs and Hennessy. She saw KJ socializing while sitting on a bench. She didn't see pills but says the people take them often at these types of events. She left at 3am and said KJ was still there at that time.
 
More Eyewitnesses interviews:

Unknown male summary of an interview summary:

This guy provides a different take as far as times. He says KJ was drinking and "feeling her liquour." He doesn't know when the girls left, but at 330am, two came back because they could't find KJ. He said they came and went two or three times. Between 330 and 4am, security called and asked if there was a problem. This guy answered and said they couldn't find KJ. At that time, security came to the room. Security agreed to help search, but the front desk said they didn't have access to video cameras. Friends joined in the search. This guy left about 435am.

From what I remember of suvellience without studying the times again, M&M arrived in the lobby at 355am. They had friends with them. I don't recall them being on any survellience before that time.

Unidentified Female summary of interview summary:

Another differing account. She says KJ had one cup but then said she was turning up the fifth of Hennessy. She said KJ left the room alone and friends followed a few minutes later. Then the friends came back for the phone and keys.

Neph summary of interview summary:

This guy says that KJ had Hennessy and Red Bull.

'We then asked him specifically about the 08 of Sept. into 09 Sept. 17. He stated that Kenneka walked out of the room (0926) and blank and blank walked out behind her. blank and blank came back to the hotel room approximately 10 minutes later and told the group partying that they were “for real can’t find Kenneka.”'
 

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