GUILTY IL - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, in suitcase in Bali, 12 Aug 2014 *fnd guilty in Bali* #6

[Chimera]

Was hoping for life without parole ... but this is better than expected.
Justice for Sheila !

 

[LinasK]

Well, that is your very strong opinion, but it's up to Stella whether she wants or needs to bond with her father and her grandmother eventually. As far as I remember, the cousin seemed willing to allow Kia some visitation with her own granddaughter. If not, the cousin certainly should allow it. KW has made a lot of effort, and gone through great lengths, to be there for her granddaughter. MOO​

It's not just my opinion. The judge has determined who is the best guardian/custody for Stella. And Stella doesn't want a relationship with her mother knowing what's she's done, can't imagine why she'd want one with her father given he committed the same acts. <modsnip>

 

[Curious Me]

Great article that covers this case and the people involved from a lot of different angles. Sheila's brother said some lovely things about Sheila. ​

Heather Mack gets 26 years for murder of mom in Bali after stark testimony from family

Before she was sentenced, Mack took the stand and said she was responsible for her own decisions, adding that she still missed and loved her mother.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[whatthewhaat]

Well, that is your very strong opinion, but it's up to Stella whether she wants or needs to bond with her father and her grandmother eventually. As far as I remember, the cousin seemed willing to allow Kia some visitation with her own granddaughter. If not, the cousin certainly should allow it. KW has made a lot of effort, and gone through great lengths, to be there for her granddaughter. MOO​

Well, in another twist Kia’s TikTok account popped up on my feed. She is saying that LH is not allowing her contact with Stella, that she has arrest records in 17 counties, that she is emotionally and physically abusive to Stella, and that Stella is sharing a basement room with a 23 yo man. If this is true I’m soo sad for Stella, it’s never ending for her.

She also posted a convo she had w HM where she openly admits that she wasn’t hiding in the bathroom & covered Sheila’s mouth. She posted a lot more too but I haven’t gone thru everything.

Username is @balisuitcasemurder

 

[SouthAussie]

Well, in another twist Kia’s TikTok account popped up on my feed. She is saying that LH is not allowing her contact with Stella, that she has arrest records in 17 counties, that she is emotionally and physically abusive to Stella, and that Stella is sharing a basement room with a 23 yo man. If this is true I’m soo sad for Stella, it’s never ending for her.

She also posted a convo she had w HM where she openly admits that she wasn’t hiding in the bathroom & covered Sheila’s mouth. She posted a lot more too but I haven’t gone thru everything.

Username is @balisuitcasemurder

I think KW has been making unsubstantiated accusations since at least Nov 2022.

From the judge in the (temporary) custody case ...

Though Walker has fought passionately for custody of Stella since the girl’s arrival in the United States, she has also often sparred with the judge. And when Miller ruled Thursday, she pointed to several accusations made without evidence by Walker — as well as her claims of a vendetta against her.

“The reality is, this has nothing to do with Ms. Walker,” Miller said. “It has everything to do with Stella.”

Heather Mack's daughter temporarily turned over to grandmother's cousin

A Cook County judge ordered Heather Mack’s 7-year-old daughter into the temporary care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s from Colorado at the end of a contentious hearing— despite Mack asking the judge from jail to choose the girl’s grandmother instead.

www.audacy.com

 

[whatthewhaat]

I think KW has been making unsubstantiated accusations since at least Nov 2022.

From the judge in the (temporary) custody case ...

Though Walker has fought passionately for custody of Stella since the girl’s arrival in the United States, she has also often sparred with the judge. And when Miller ruled Thursday, she pointed to several accusations made without evidence by Walker — as well as her claims of a vendetta against her.

“The reality is, this has nothing to do with Ms. Walker,” Miller said. “It has everything to do with Stella.”

Heather Mack's daughter temporarily turned over to grandmother's cousin

A Cook County judge ordered Heather Mack’s 7-year-old daughter into the temporary care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s from Colorado at the end of a contentious hearing— despite Mack asking the judge from jail to choose the girl’s grandmother instead.

www.audacy.com

True, but we also know how money and fancy lawyers can influence the court. We know SVWM old friend Diana has plenty of it & was given temporary custody despite not knowing Stella at all, while the court apparently claimed Stella didn’t know KW despite having years of proof of a relationship with her. I think it’s definitely worth hearing her out

 

[SouthAussie]

True, but we also know how money and fancy lawyers can influence the court. We know SVWM old friend Diana has plenty of it & was given temporary custody despite not knowing Stella at all, while the court apparently claimed Stella didn’t know KW despite having years of proof of a relationship with her. I think it’s definitely worth hearing her out

Then KW needs to provide some proof of her unsubstantiated allegations. Going on Tik Tok and venting her feelings is not supplying proof.

LH is a teacher (link). Criminal checks are required for teachers in CO.

imo

 

[Kamille]

I really feel bad for KW and her obvious pain at losing her son and never getting the chance to see or raise her granddaughter. I do understand how she feels that money and power are responsible for the latter since she was financially unable to get representation for herself during the custody hearings, but I do wish she had made more of an effort to endear herself to Sheila’s family rather than fight them. She must have known that if HM and Stella ever returned to the US, there would be custody issues and she would want to be seen in the most sympathetic light. I don’t think she accomplished that and has actually made the situation worse for herself because of her accusations. The court must have had reason to believe that placing Stella with her was not in their best interests.

That being said, I really do hope that something can be worked out for her to at least be able to have online visits with her Granddaughter if Stella wants to continue their relationship. I understand that she has recently been told of the reason for her parents incarceration and that she has expressed her desire to not have any relationship with either of them. What we haven’t seen is whether that extends to her paternal grandmother.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

True, but we also know how money and fancy lawyers can influence the court. We know SVWM old friend Diana has plenty of it & was given temporary custody despite not knowing Stella at all, while the court apparently claimed Stella didn’t know KW despite having years of proof of a relationship with her. I think it’s definitely worth hearing her out

I don’t believe “Aunt Diana” was given temporary custody although she was able to visit with Stella at least once while she was in the custody of VF when HM was first arrested.

I do believe that KW had some online contact with Stella over the years through OS and HM but her behaviour and accusations in court, without adequate proof, are likely the reason she is not in contact with Stella now. She needed to approach all this in a much more mature and reasonable manner IMO. It is very unfortunate that she couldn’t find pro bono representation to help her navigate the court system. Irrational behaviour and groundless accusations in court didn’t make her seem to be a good candidate for custody I’m sure. As the judge indicated, none of this was about her and her inability to get proper representation, it was about Stella and who would be the most stable placement candidate.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

She is currently Prisoner number 72776-509, held in the Chicago Metropolitan Detention Center awaiting transfer to a permanent prison home.

While Mack has finally showed penitence, no one in the family can be sure that it's real with Wiese still convinced she's as much of a 'monster' today as she was as a teenage killer, and hopes she gets mental health treatment in prison.

'It's like a weight has been lifted off me, but ten years is a long time to wait for justice,' says Wiese.

'I'm not sure I can ever have closure, losing my sister to a horrific crime like that, you can never forget what happened. There's always going to be that void in your life.

'I did appreciate her apology at the sentencing hearing. She turned around in court and said: 'I'm sorry Aunt Debbi [Curran, Sheila's sister], I'm sorry, Uncle Bill.'

'That's the first time I've heard her do that. I think it was sincere, but it's hard to tell, because she's never apologized before in ten years.

'She's the master manipulator, it's good to hear her take responsibility, but she's lied so many times, it could have been another lie to get a lighter sentence from the judge.

Heather Mack's family say 'a weight has been lifted' after sentence

Heather Mack was sentenced to 26 years in prison last week for the 2014 murder of her mother Sheila Von Wiese-Mack.

www.dailymail.co.uk