Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, and Liberty (Libby) German, 14/The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #86

[minazoe]

So he had a warrant.. wow. dying to know . mOO

 

[ab01]

My guess is failure to register or some related....

 

[Inthedetails]

My guess is failure to register or some related....

That's my guess too. How to find out what the warrant/arrest is for??

 

[minazoe]

Im going to lose it . I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!! how long did he last?

BOOM

mOO

 

[Mellowmelly]

Is the arrest in connection with the girls murders ?

 

[minazoe]

we don't know anything. it may be something unrelated..but you gave me chill.

mOO .

 

[Mellowmelly]

I just googled his name and read an article about him, I haven’t followed this case from the beginning and don’t know that much about it but I don’t know why, I just don’t think he’s the perpetrator. He says he loves his kids and couldn’t imagine hurting children. IDK maybe I’m just being naive, who knows.

 

[minazoe]

because exposing yourself to a mother and child is not harmful?
although, technically he is not a suspect in the Delphi murder since they said he is no longer interesting to them.
and we are not supposed to discuss. I think the mods will have to decide if we dont hear soon what the charges are. mOO

 

[book-thinker]

Thanks....so a little over an hour between the photo of the girls and their ride arriving.

We know TB works quickly - in STL he was chatting in the bar and 30 minutes later the crime was committed, a woman was dead, the perp departed, and help was called. But...many perps work quickly so the speed isn't necessarily a calling card.

jmo

I'm not familiar with the STL thread. I would be interested in the connection between both cases.

I understand some folks think he's a serial killer. Unfortunately, in the Pacific NW we have our share of serial killers,
one being the Green River Killer, he was an unremarkable person, didn't stand out, soft spoken, but he during his
killing spree, 90 women and girls were murdered. Most of his victims were either prostitutes or runaways, women
who would not be reported as missing right away. He used his truck to transport his victims.
He was familiar with this secluded area with river vegetation called the green river, since he lived in the next town.

The similarity in Delphi murders and Green Killer murders are the "area's" only. Being in secluded area's,
also both next to a river's.

The killer of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, is familiar with the woods east of Delphi, like the back of his hand. A local person with family ties to the area, as a kid growing would've roamed those same woods during summer.

 

[Mellowmelly]

because exposing yourself to a mother and child is not harmful?
although, technically he is not a suspect in the Delphi murder since they said he is no longer interesting to them.
and we are not supposed to discuss. I think the mods will have to decide if we dont hear soon what the charges are. mOO

I didn’t know he’d exposed himself to a minor, shows how little I know.

 

[tmar]

Same here, and my theory is he grabbed Abby and used some type of tool or restraining device to help him to control her. He had control over them at the end of the bridge, all the way to the crime scene, but at the CS the girls may have fought back.

JMO

I think just pointing a gun, or other weapon, could be used for control.
BG probably ordered the girls, to cross the creek, before he carried out his murders.
MOO.

 

[gramof8]

Here is a video with his voice . “You work for me…I pay your taxes, ****!” – Alleged Catholic Supply killer caught on police dash cam

 

[rainwaterstill]

I don't believe I ever heard if the murder weapon was a gun. (I don't believe the cause of death was ever revealed by LE.) With all the leaves on the ground it is possible that if he did use a gun he may have not found all the shell casings - assuming he didn't use a revolver. The POI in MO used a hand gun in the murder he committed there.

I don't know why I keep thinking he used a gun to control Abigail and Liberty, but he used some weapon or method in the killing.

You are correct- LE has never revealed COD. Supposedly the girls' families know COD, but they have been asked by LE not to reveal the cause. Not revealing the cause will help LE weed out false confessions. MOO, it will make the prosecutor's job a tiny bit easier, because it takes away a defense attorney's argument that the cause of death was widely known.

I have every faith that LE is going to solve this. The only question is when?

 

[Jabarn]

Here is a video with his voice . “You work for me…I pay your taxes, ****!” – Alleged Catholic Supply killer caught on police dash cam

I’ve listened to it three times now. TB is so angry, and BG was so calm in the voice released by the Delphi investigative team. I will say both articulate well, without any grammar slurs, or clear accent. (Those of you who live in the areas of either crime would hear any inflection better than me as a Southerner). It will be interesting to see the follow up story with more of the footage.

 

[drama_farmer]

I remember back when DN was the hot topic, and IMO a lot of folks expressed that they were sure that if they could hear his voice, they would somehow "know" if he was BG. And, after hearing DN's voice, there was disappointment in finding out there was no smoking gun there.

I'm afraid with so little to go on with just those 3 words (assuming the way he said "down the hill," is a good representation of his everyday speech characteristics) the recorded voice of any POI will be just one tiny piece in the overall puzzle, and as prone to confirmation bias as any other piece of MSM evidence that exists "out there." IMO MOO

 

[Jabarn]

I remember back when DN was the hot topic, and IMO a lot of folks expressed that they were sure that if they could hear his voice, they would somehow "know" if he was BG. And, after hearing DN's voice, there was disappointment in finding out there was no smoking gun there.

I'm afraid with so little to go on with just those 3 words (assuming the way he said "down the hill," is a good representation of his everyday speech characteristics) the recorded voice of any POI will be just one tiny piece in the overall puzzle, and as prone to confirmation bias as any other piece of MSM evidence that exists "out there." IMO MOO

I totally get what you are saying.

The “get down the hill” voice capture of the BG is a big clue provided to the public and there is information tonight for the public this evening on hearing TB’s voice.

Not sure there is anything other than open media requests are being allowed in TB’s STL case. IMO.

 

[JnRyan]

A clip of the "down the hill" audio repeated more than 3 times.

Granted, I'm no expert on voices and accents, but I don't hear a similar voice pattern. There is something about the way the killer says 'hill' that makes it seem to me like he is from a different part of the country than TB. In fact, now that I hear this again it seems more like Abigail and Liberty's murderer is from Kentucky - to the south of Indiana.

 

[cathdawg]

Daey called Freemont Sheriff's

Reason for warrant

"Violation of protection order."

I am going to assume re KN. This past month she has complained about DN and his new GF harassing her.

 

[cathdawg]

Hi Everyone did anyone ever keep FB SS of Libby's posts with the boys, Brandon Sandifur and Logan Holder? Many Thanks

 

[ab01]

I’ve listened to it three times now. TB is so angry, and BG was so calm in the voice released by the Delphi investigative team. I will say both articulate well, without any grammar slurs, or clear accent. (Those of you who live in the areas of either crime would hear any inflection better than me as a Southerner). It will be interesting to see the follow up story with more of the footage.

I agree with the articulation, to include noticeable pauses between words. although not sure what to make of it, many people talk that way moo

eta: also that "down the hill" still haunts me...... *shutters*