Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #138

[Tricia]

Welcome back to the Delphi Murders discussion thread.

On the afternoon of Feb. 13th, 2017, best friends Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at a bridge in the town of Delphi. On Feb 14th their bodies were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the bridge.
The Sheriff's office gave a press conference on 4/22/19 and we have some solid information. Please take a look below

HERE IS THE NEW SKETCH FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE ON 4/22/19

HERE IS THE NEW AUDIO. IT'S-A BIT LONGER THAN THE FIRST AUDIO:
https://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_Audio_Edited_2019x3.wav

Here is the old audio in a loop:
http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

LATEST PRESS CONFERENCE 4/22/19

FOR MORE CLICK HERE FOR THE CARROL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FACEBOOK PAGE.

Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at(800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at (765) 564-2413.

Information can also be emailed to Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

video of press conference from 2017 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

Let's do this. Let's commit to getting this killer's picture and voice out there any possible way we can.

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NOTE - per Tricia and Sillybilly’s 5.28.2021 post here, JBC as a poi is now open for discussion in the Delphi thread.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Tiff23fr]

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For general JBC II discussions please use his thread. In Abby & Libby’s thread, JBC II should only be discussed in the context of a possible connection to Abby & Libby’s case.
Thanks Everyone!

JBC II Thread:
IN - James Chadwell II, 42, arrested after girl 9, found in his home, Lafayette, 19 Apr 2021 #3

 

[Tiff23fr]

Welcome to Thread #138
Please continue here…

 

[steeltowngirl]

138 threads. Nearly 56 months. 1693 days.

Let this be the thread that we can finally see an arrest and Justice for Abby and Libby.

 

[TTF14]

Because I think this could be an important point, I am bringing this over from the last thread. This is a quote from Kelsi German (Libby's sister) on one of the many podcast interviews she gave.

21:10 - "I think that he is somebody close to us." "We probably talk to him every single day and we're not connecting him to it. We're not realizing that he's the person and it could be that he's the best person in the world to us, um, and that, that he, the person he puts on to us and that fake identity that he's giving us is not the same person that he was in that moment."

Earlier in the podcast, she also said this: "I think he's somebody very close to us..Could be my neighbor maybe."

 

[MollyDDD]

Because I think this could be an important point, I am bringing this over from the last thread. This is a quote from Kelsi German (Libby's sister) on one of the many podcast interviews she gave.

21:10 - "I think that he is somebody close to us." "We probably talk to him every single day and we're not connecting him to it. We're not realizing that he's the person and it could be that he's the best person in the world to us, um, and that, that he, the person he puts on to us and that fake identity that he's giving us is not the same person that he was in that moment."

Earlier in the podcast, she also said this: "I think he's somebody very close to us..Could be my neighbor maybe."

LE?

 

[news buff]

Because I think this could be an important point, I am bringing this over from the last thread. This is a quote from Kelsi German (Libby's sister) on one of the many podcast interviews she gave.

21:10 - "I think that he is somebody close to us." "We probably talk to him every single day and we're not connecting him to it. We're not realizing that he's the person and it could be that he's the best person in the world to us, um, and that, that he, the person he puts on to us and that fake identity that he's giving us is not the same person that he was in that moment."

Earlier in the podcast, she also said this: "I think he's somebody very close to us..Could be my neighbor maybe."

It is at 11:25 in the podcast that it is "I think he's somebody very close to us..." Thanks for the bringing it over. I missed the second part and thought it was being misquoted. My apologies.

 

[ShamelessObserver]

Following

 

[heartgoesout]

Kelsi also talks about her forensics class in that podcast and how she is able to apply what she's learning to her sisters case.

 

[watcher9]

Lizzy and Lyric murdered 13 Jul 12 (9 yrs ago)
Abby and Libby murdered 13 Feb 17 (4 yrs ago)

Still waiting for an arrest in each case.

 

[Justice101]

following...

 

[TheVisual]

Are there no messages since Monday? I have unwatched #137 and watched #138 and still not getting messages.

 

[TTF14]

Are there no messages since Monday? I have unwatched #137 and watched #138 and still not getting messages.

WS was down for quite a while for a server upgrade, and they said some messages were lost. So, that may be what happened here.

 

[TheVisual]

WS was down for quite a while for a server upgrade, and they said some messages were lost. So, that may be what happened here.

THANKS!!!!

 

[AC4RD]

Maybe while things are slow, I'll post this observation and people more familiar with the murders can correct me as appropriate.
The other week I asked a question about the Delphi suspects; I was pretty much unaware of almost all of them at the time. Since then I've read a big pile of blog posts and reddit posts (I don't use Fbook) and I've watched a bundle of y00t00be videos about various subjects and how they fit the overall picture of the Delphi murders.

And it seems fair, from what i've learned in the last couple of weeks, to say there are nearly a dozen or so people being called suspects or POIs in this case. And the police may have some evidence relating to one or more of them, but we (the general public) don't have *any* evidence to support any significant claims against any of them. Isn't that right?

We've got a handful of vermin in the general area who are odd and/or have been involved in various crimes. There are some people being listed as suspicious apparently just because they resemble one of the drawings the police released. One person seems to be a favorite suspect based on his apparent attack on a little girl--but there's still no actual evidence, right? So am I missing something? Is there some person most of you think must be the murderer, some evidence I haven't seen on the web yet?

I was going through some old family photos and I think I understand now why this case is so important to me. I found photos of my baby sister when she was 10 years old, 12, 14 years old; she was sweet as pie and as cute as a baby bunny, and that age is one in which girls are (usually) cheerful and outgoing and happy and as innocent and pleasant as butterflies. The *horror* of having Libby and Abbie's lives snuffed out, sweet happy friends having a good time on a walk--it's so painful and brutal that it just keeps me hoping to hear of an arrest at last. :-( --ken

 

[minazoe]

Maybe while things are slow, I'll post this observation and people more familiar with the murders can correct me as appropriate.
The other week I asked a question about the Delphi suspects; I was pretty much unaware of almost all of them at the time. Since then I've read a big pile of blog posts and reddit posts (I don't use Fbook) and I've watched a bundle of y00t00be videos about various subjects and how they fit the overall picture of the Delphi murders.

And it seems fair, from what i've learned in the last couple of weeks, to say there are nearly a dozen or so people being called suspects or POIs in this case. And the police may have some evidence relating to one or more of them, but we (the general public) don't have *any* evidence to support any significant claims against any of them. Isn't that right?

We've got a handful of vermin in the general area who are odd and/or have been involved in various crimes. There are some people being listed as suspicious apparently just because they resemble one of the drawings the police released. One person seems to be a favorite suspect based on his apparent attack on a little girl--but there's still no actual evidence, right? So am I missing something? Is there some person most of you think must be the murderer, some evidence I haven't seen on the web yet?

I was going through some old family photos and I think I understand now why this case is so important to me. I found photos of my baby sister when she was 10 years old, 12, 14 years old; she was sweet as pie and as cute as a baby bunny, and that age is one in which girls are (usually) cheerful and outgoing and happy and as innocent and pleasant as butterflies. The *horror* of having Libby and Abbie's lives snuffed out, sweet happy friends having a good time on a walk--it's so painful and brutal that it just keeps me hoping to hear of an arrest at last. :-( --ken

So JBC is not only a favorite for a simple reason such as his crime against a child..there are variety of factors and known details that really put him at the forefront. Without access to Facebook and an in-depth understanding of his history in and outside of prison and his whereabouts at different times, it is hard
to make a calculated judgement.

mOO

 

[AC4RD]

So JBC is not only a favorite for a simple reason such as his crime against a child..there are variety of factors and known details that really put him at the forefront. Without access to Facebook and an in-depth understanding of his history in and outside of prison and his whereabouts at different times, it is hard
to make a calculated judgement.

mOO

Yes, Minazoe, but regardless of his crimes, my basic idea is that, AFAICT, there's no actual physical evidence that any of us outside the investigation know. A man's history may be appalling, but we don't have anything concrete on anybody, it seems. "Looks like" and "history of" and "convicted of" ... those don't convict anybody, right? Fingerprints, security camera footage, testimony of others--those work. And none of the 'suspects' discussed have any such evidence against them--again, it looks like that to me, there is a LOT of content out on the web. MOO.

 

[TTF14]

Maybe while things are slow, I'll post this observation and people more familiar with the murders can correct me as appropriate.
The other week I asked a question about the Delphi suspects; I was pretty much unaware of almost all of them at the time. Since then I've read a big pile of blog posts and reddit posts (I don't use Fbook) and I've watched a bundle of y00t00be videos about various subjects and how they fit the overall picture of the Delphi murders.

And it seems fair, from what i've learned in the last couple of weeks, to say there are nearly a dozen or so people being called suspects or POIs in this case. And the police may have some evidence relating to one or more of them, but we (the general public) don't have *any* evidence to support any significant claims against any of them. Isn't that right?

We've got a handful of vermin in the general area who are odd and/or have been involved in various crimes. There are some people being listed as suspicious apparently just because they resemble one of the drawings the police released. One person seems to be a favorite suspect based on his apparent attack on a little girl--but there's still no actual evidence, right? So am I missing something? Is there some person most of you think must be the murderer, some evidence I haven't seen on the web yet?

I was going through some old family photos and I think I understand now why this case is so important to me. I found photos of my baby sister when she was 10 years old, 12, 14 years old; she was sweet as pie and as cute as a baby bunny, and that age is one in which girls are (usually) cheerful and outgoing and happy and as innocent and pleasant as butterflies. The *horror* of having Libby and Abbie's lives snuffed out, sweet happy friends having a good time on a walk--it's so painful and brutal that it just keeps me hoping to hear of an arrest at last. :-( --ken

Yes, you are 100% correct.

 

[Always Stay Hopeful]

Lizzy and Lyric murdered 13 Jul 12 (9 yrs ago)
Abby and Libby murdered 13 Feb 17 (4 yrs ago)

Still waiting for an arrest in each case.

What's crazy to think about is that if the two cases are related, the killer might strike every five years. Which would mean 2022 would be his next attempt.
I've thought before that it might take this guy making another attempt to get caught.