IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #76

[Hatfield]

JMO
Im going back to my very first impression when I saw BG photo on the bridge and learned about this case.

My first impressions were about like this. I think most of my early impressions still hold for me.

-Transient type person that was used to moving from town to town. Maybe even sleeping outdoors at times when he found no other place to sleep.

-A person on a mission with all the supplies he needed. He had his "kill kit" with him.

-Carried a large gun under his jacket or in his right jacket pocket

-White thing is some sort of rope like a chlothesline rope or police style zip tie handcuffs

This impression told me he went there that day with the purpose of doing what he ended up doing. He was on a mission that day and I concluded at the time we have a real serial killer here. I think its possible the same person that did the Iowa girls killing.

ETA I cannot outrule DN. He could fit in with most all the impressions I had.

 

[LostInAustin]

Absolutely, I have commented on this several times. He purposely put himself in a position to run into the girl's without the accompaniment of adults, and that place is the trails. I'm saying the girl's had prior run ins with him on the trails and had conversations with him in passing. Even a hello or how are you, can make a person feel at ease or comfortable around you if you do it enough times.

As someone who hikes the same old places fairly regularly, you're right. You see the same folks, walking their dog, going on their walk, and you wave.. I'm not good with names, so I give all my hiking friends nicknames - like my friend, Mr. Headphones, Friendly Old Lady with the Little Dog, aye. Maybe it wasn't someone they knew proper.

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[LostInAustin]

...he was also a marine for 4.5 years. That should mean lots of training regarding firearms, following/giving orders, regimented, etc.

Hmm.. This is a point for the commanding and calm demand.

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[beck22]

This is my first post. I first came to this site after Lauren Spierer went missing, as it is close to where I live now. However I grew up very close to Delphi and have been following this case since it happened.

Yes and when the paper mistakenly realeased the COD and had to retract it.

Can you clarify this for me please? Thanks.

 

[MistyWaters]

If LE could exclude him or declare him a suspect, the people living in the area would know where they stand. That is why it is important IMO.

Anyone following media reports or watching Dr Phil this week knows where the case stands.

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

RBBM

I thought LE returned from Colorado long ago (just days after going). Did they go back?

I don't have clarification on that. I was just told they have been tight-lipped since going. I asked what could take 2 months to rule him out and was told he was incarcerated, so they could take their time.

I ASSUMED someone was still there. This may be an incorrect asumption.

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[Shiressleuth]

This quote from August is one of the most baffling imo. There are certain people (plural)?


....."It does not appear to be anything more than some discussion between the girls. We have only released a portion of it. There are some others we think could help us but again protecting the integrity of the investigation is key so we cannot release everything because there are certain people that know the details and if we release it all then we get into false confessions,” said Sgt. Holeman.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...recovered-slain-delphi-teens-phone/566691001/

You said yourself this is baffling so how can they know where they stand?

 

[Shiressleuth]

This is my first post. I first came to this site after Lauren Spierer went missing, as it is close to where I live now. However I grew up very close to Delphi and have been following this case since it happened.



Can you clarify this for me please? Thanks.

Welcome Beck. I'll see if I can post a link to where it was discussed in the older thread.

 

[Byte]

I hate the fact that despite this being a probably sloppy crime we're nearing a year since the incident and still have very few answers- just a lot of almosts.

 

[TeaTime]

I've never considered DN to be BG. They are as opposite in MO as black and white are on the color wheel. DN is a reactionary actor, BG plans ahead.

I think the girls saw him earlier in the day, they likely thought he looked like an out of place weirdo and then were uneasy when they saw him approaching the south end of the bridge. I think Mike Patti is correct when he suggests that BG used the threat of a weapon to get the girls to comply with his directions to go down the hill because MP knows that the girls would have told him to take a hike otherwise.

 

[LostInAustin]

I've never considered DN to be BG. They are as opposite in MO as black and white are on the color wheel. DN is a reactionary actor, BG plans ahead.

I think the girls saw him earlier in the day, they likely thought he looked like an out of place weirdo and then were uneasy when they saw him approaching the south end of the bridge. I think Mike Patti is correct when he suggests that BG used the threat of a weapon to get the girls to comply with his directions to go down the hill because MP knows that the girls would have told him to take a hike otherwise.

I'm not so sure about this or if this is the case here, but..

I feel like some women think they must always listen to/never speak out against men and would have listened regardless... Even if they didn't want to.

When someone brought up, like, the way he spoke, commanding BUT calm also made me think.


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[MistyWaters]

IMOO they were asking for a friend, family member, co-worker, acquaintance, etc. to contact them with THE tip...the tip that would break this case wide open by putting this individual either at the scene or with noticeable changes in behavior or appearance or that the individual had confessed to them. Not necessarily tips on MORE individuals. They believe they know who did this, I now think. Shout out to Dr. Phil for making this program a whole hour long and getting the word out there for A&L. They need justice.

Yes exactly, that's it. LE needs a tip from somebody with firsthand information and for whatever reason, they feel confident there's somebody out who can give them what they need.

I think it's be quite normal for a wife, mother, brother or even an adult child to have lingering suspicions about a loved ones involvement and in the passing months, have hope for somebody else to be arrested to put their mind at ease. But as that hasn't happened.......

 

[TTF14]

Yes exactly, that's it. LE needs a tip from somebody with firsthand information and for whatever reason, they feel confident there's somebody out who can give them what they need.

I think it's be quite normal for a wife, mother, brother or even an adult child to have lingering suspicions about a loved ones involvement and in the passing months, have hope for somebody else to be arrested to put their mind at ease. But as that hasn't happened.......

I would like to know why they are so adamant that someone DOES know this person and knows he is the killer. It's just not making sense in my brain that they are 100% sure of this, yet the case still isn't solved. What particular factor makes them so sure of this?

 

[LostInAustin]

I would like to know why they are so adamant that someone DOES know this person and knows he is the killer. It's just not making sense in my brain that they are 100% sure of this, yet the case still isn't solved. What particular factor makes them so sure of this?

... Do you think he's living in a cave..?

BG has a mama and a Daddy definitely. He also likely has a doctor, dentist, and mailman. Maybe a bank teller that he sees a few times a month, a bus driver who helps him commute, or a waitress who serves him breakfast everyday.

He doesn't look like a homeless, living in the woods type of guy to me.

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[Daae]

BG is wearing a shoe/boot similar to a IKON EDDIE CHUKKA, that particular brand may be out of his price range, but it is the style he is wearing.

These boots are English as is the cap style in the sketch.

 

[Jax49]

Don't worry I posted the links a few pages back and it is in the media thread for posters as well.

Good morning Shire. I hate to ask, but I'm drawing a blank when searching for that link. I searched on the word "creepy" here, in your posts and on the media thread. Can you help me out and please post it again or give me a better suggestion on how to search? Thanks in advance.

 

[LostInAustin]

Good morning Shire. I hate to ask, but I'm drawing a blank when searching for that link. I searched on the word "creepy" here, in your posts and on the media thread. Can you help me out and please post it again or give me a better suggestion on how to search? Thanks in advance.

It's not you, it's the search function, but you can try cre for creeper or creeper or sta for stalking or stalker.

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[Daae]

...he was also a marine for 4.5 years. That should mean lots of training regarding firearms, following/giving orders, regimented, etc.

Had training on bridges and through water. He came prepared.

 

[MistyWaters]

You said yourself this is baffling so how can they know where they stand?

I'm not sure what your expectations are when you refer to "where they stand"?

Is your criticism toward LE?

Frankly this entire case is baffling but until it's solved and the right person is charged and proven guilty, it is what it is.

 

[gregjrichards]

Law enforcement have said they were only getting two to five tips a day before Dr. Phil aired which is very sad indeed. I hope and pray this they get a much needed break.