Found Deceased IN - Jacqueline Watts, 33, Columbus, 3 March 2017

[margarita25]

It's probably not the smartest thing to do, but I've done it. You just think you'll catch the dog right there . . . and then you go further and a little further in pursuit.

Indeed, same here.

 

[Momma2cam]

The dog chasing theory is pure speculation and originated from a Facebook post of someone claiming to be a "Close family friend" and the post has spread like wildfire on social media. How would anyone know what she was doing, though?? Bizarre...

It is possible there were witnesses, which lead to said speculation. MOO.

It seems as likely, or more likely imo, that it was an accident as a result of her chasing a dog than being linked to a serial killer. If her death ends up being suspicious, statistically speaking it is far more likely that it was the result of someone she knew than a random killer. Random murders are rare. I know everyone is on heightened alert due to the unsolved recent double homicide but the likelihood of them being connected is slim and far reaching without any indication from LE or family that a crime is suspected. JMO.

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[monkeypants]

I don't buy the dog chasing story. Jmo.

Why would you run after a dog half a mile from your car and not take your cellphone?

Unless it was being charged.

Jmo

Because that isn't who YOU are. You have to know the person you are discussing and her lifestyle and habits, not infer your own habits into the scenario. Imo

 

[Momma2cam]

There are NO SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS anymore in this world...Do you watch the news?


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I can understand how your experiences makes you feel this way. Due to my career field and some personal experience, I am on hyper alert about child sexual abuse and any gut feeling that something is off goes right to that. Trauma can make us live in fear.

But, the reality is that we are much more likely to get injured or die in a car accident than due to attack/ murder. That's why I'm not jumping to a link in this case with no information yet to suggest it was a murder. It is quite possible that will change after the autopsy and additional investigating that gets released.

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[WebSight]

I found an address for her parents-in-law less than 2 miles north east of her parents. It is searchable in public records but I'm not linking address here.

I agree with keeping that info private at this point.

That is why when I did the map I purposely included the whole of the street in that block number.

I only made the map to show how close to the family home Jacqueline was when she was found but I still felt a bit squeamish posting it. I do think maps are an important visual though to help us to understand the dynamics.

All the more tragic to think how close she was and still could not be found until the next day.

The map makes me wonder if she was hurt badly close by and tried to get back to her parents house but just couldn't make it?

Speculation only, just thinking.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I think this could be a tragic accident as simple as she injured herself, was wet and cold, and succumb to hypothermia.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...iver-may-missing-indianapolis-woman/98735796/


I guess what I am wondering is why weren't the police out searching for her during the overnight hours. Seeing she was found so close to her car, she perhaps IMO could have been saved from the sandbar...however she got there.

ETA; IMO, respectively, her dogs probably could have found her if given the chance.

JMO

They were out searching for her and with k9. It makes no sense.

 

[Momma2cam]

I don't buy the dog chasing story. Jmo.

Why would you run after a dog half a mile from your car and not take your cellphone?

Unless it was being charged.

Jmo

Her body was located .5 mile from her car but it looks like the distance to the water from her car is much much shorter. JMO.

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[margarita25]

The Delphi case and the Columbus case both occurred on public hiking trails. And, I took my dog to play in the Flatrock by the sandbar. I don't think my dog even got her belly wet because it is so shallow.

Not much of a winter in Columbus. The grass is growing and some flowers are blooming way ahead of time. Today it will be in the sixties.

( :thinking: )

There were reports upstream about previous rain though, right? Going back...

 

[AFTM]

I can understand how your experiences makes you feel this way. Due to my career field and some personal experience, I am on hyper alert about child sexual abuse and any gut feeling that something is off goes right to that. Trauma can make us live in fear.

But, the reality is that we are much more likely to get injured or die in a car accident than due to attack/ murder. That's why I'm not jumping to a link in this case with no information yet to suggest it was a murder. It is quite possible that will change after the autopsy and additional investigating that gets released.

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I was just answering all these posts about safe neighborhoods... There are no safe neighborhoods...ask a police officer? We have a State Trooper in our family.

The U.S. has more people in our prisons than anywhere in the world...

And we are building more!!!

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[Hiandmighty]

The dog chasing theory is pure speculation and originated from a Facebook post of someone claiming to be a "Close family friend" and the post has spread like wildfire on social media. How would anyone know what she was doing, though?? Bizarre...

Right, someone "saw" her chasing a dog (so knew exactly where she was) yet even with LE search and k9 it took them until 8:30 am the next morning to find her body.

MOO: that didn't happen

 

[margarita25]

Her body was located .5 mile from her car but it looks like the distance to the water from her car is much much shorter. JMO.

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.5 a mile.from her car... Same distance as A and L?

 

[Hiandmighty]

She did not live in Columbus. How would she know the dog was a stray? Maybe the dogs owner lived in that neighborhood.

Yup, been thinking this too. Dogs running around in/near a neighborhood usually belong there. People here let their dogs out to run and assume they will come home. In a case like that, J would have been intefering with a dog's normal routine.

 

[margarita25]

Hypothetically brainstorming, can one reach this area on foot through the woods or via creek / trail / rr track directly from the Delphi location?

(Skibooble?)

 

[Hiandmighty]

Yes, of course. But if you're in a familiar well to do neighborhood,
is that going to be your first thought?! Better not her out of the car because I could get kidnapped,
or better turn off the car, take my purse because while I'm out chasing this dog, someone may come along and hijack my car and steal my purse?

Maybe. But I doubt it.

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I do think about it all the time in safe, upper end neighborhoods. Of course, I post here too so maybe I'm more cautious than the average person. Quiet neighborhoods with no traffic are ideal places for crime. No one to see or hear anything... places where someone can abduct a woman and no one hears her screams or struggles...

 

[jashrema]

Three weeks ago today I came across three little dogs running in the street. I jumped out of my car, left door open and car running with all my stuff in it. I ended up three blocks from my car and finally "chased" the dogs into their own backyard. The gate had unlatched during a storm that day. Anyone could have taken my car, my purse or driven into my door. I didn't even bother to park it to the side. It was left in the middle of the street. So yes, you're absolutely correct that we do what she may have done. I don't find it far fetched at all because I've been there, done that.

I'm not disparaging anyone that wants to round up stray dogs, but this was incredibly reckless and i hope you don't do it anymore. Anyone not paying attention for a second could have smashed into the back of your car and been killed. You could be charged for an involuntary or even voluntary (because you did it on purpose) manslaughter if such a thing would happen, not to mention the pain caused from an innocent being killed. Protect yourself and others.

 

[MaryG12]

Where I live loose dogs are a big problem (I know I mentioned that in the thread about that elderly man attacked by 2 pit bulls while walking his pomeranian) if I see one running around in the roads I just lean on the horn and if my window is open, yell at it to get it out of the roads. Yeah I don't know what good yelling at a dog does either.

 

[margarita25]

Is there a chance this our biggest lead on BG yet? Please LE give us an official ruleout, I'm dyyyyyin over here.)

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I don't know what happened to her of course, but I do want to point out that some people do sometimes put the safety of animals ahead of their own. I am not one of these people but am married to one. I can totally see it happening that a person of this mindset could see an animal (stray, hurt or otherwise), stop the car, maybe open the door to coax it in. But it runs off, she runs after it. It keeps running further and further from her car to the river's edge, she slips on the bank, hits her head.... Did this happen? No clue. But at this point it is as plausible a theory as any other. I really could happen.

 

[margarita25]

I'm not disparaging anyone that wants to round up stray dogs, but this was incredibly reckless and i hope you don't do it anymore. Anyone not paying attention for a second could have smashed into the back of your car and been killed. You could be charged for an involuntary or even voluntary (because you did it on purpose) manslaughter if such a thing would happen, not to mention the pain caused from an innocent being killed. Protect yourself and others.

(Paying attention here too, like I said upstream I'm the woooorst about this...)

 

[Momma2cam]

I was just answering all these posts about safe neighborhoods... There are no safe neighborhoods...ask a police officer? We have a State Trooper in our family.

The U.S. has more people in our prisons than anywhere in the world...

And we are building more!!!

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Crime overall is down, though. I have LE employees in my immediate family. I work with LE every day. It causes my hyperalert to be on overdrive. I have to remind myself that statistically speaking, again, everyday activities like riding in a car are more likely to lead to my demise.

Doesn't stop my heart from racing as I leave work at 8 p.m. in Detroit or from checking my vehicle every morning thoroughly before I get in for a crazy person hiding out to abduct me. When you live with awful experiences it is natural to be fearful. It is helpful though to understand the actual risk so you can get your cognitive, rational brain to kick on sometimes instead of our reactive, sensory/ emotional brain. It helps turn off the alarm mode that triggers fight, flight, freeze everywhere we go.

I hope for this poor woman's family that they already have answers or get them soon so they can grieve. I can't imagine the pain.





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