IN IN - Kristy Kelley, 27, Boonville, 15 Aug 2014 #1

[concernedmother]

MHO there is alot of rudeness going on and its going to discourage searchers and turn them away.Attacking groups that come to help them search isnt going to do them any favors. Kind of reminds me of Billlie Dunn and her attacks on searchers.

 

[steelman]

That girl went off a cliff though, right? There aren't any cliffs around here. It's flatter than a pancake.

I'm not ruling anything out. It just doesn't make sense to me that she would be heading towards home and then spontaneously decide to turn around and drive the other direction out of town in the middle of nowhere, when she had to work in a few hours.

I still wonder if she turned around to get her phone. I would have totally left my phone (I do it all the time) and I would have been paranoid enough to turn around and go get it in case the manager/bartender hadn't left yet.

I agree with your theory. I think it is entirely possible that the vehicle seen heading back towards the bar may have been her. She was probably driving faster than when she drove by the first time, and thus the video was blurry and the lights streaked a lot more, making the vehicle hard to identify. Due to the night vision on those infrared cameras, things moving by quickly are distorted many times, and the combination of light and speed causes a blurred image.
I own two of them.

It was getting later and later, and I'm thinking that she may have actually made it to her home, realized she left the phone, searched around in her car, purse, and jeans only to find out that she didn't have it. So, she fires the car back up and heads back to the bar, only this time driving a little faster to get there.

When she got back to the bar, there was someone (or numerous people) lurking around in that parking lot after the bar was closed and locked. It's my opinion that this would have been where everything went wrong.

 

[Inthedetails]

MHO there is alot of rudeness going on and its going to discourage searchers and turn them away.Attacking groups that come to help them search isnt going to do them any favors. Kind of reminds me of Billlie Dunn and her attacks on searchers.

What do you mean? Rudeness on FB? Rudeness in real-life among the searchers? Who is being rude to whom?

 

[cluciano63]

I feel like, with her car missing, no scenario can be ruled out. Hoping LE has her phone details to give some sort of clue. Otherwise, I don't see how they narrow down the various possibilities.

 

[88keys]

MHO there is alot of rudeness going on and its going to discourage searchers and turn them away.Attacking groups that come to help them search isnt going to do them any favors. Kind of reminds me of Billlie Dunn and her attacks on searchers.

Are you talking about on the Facebook page? Because I have to respectfully disagree. That page isn't meant for speculation or rumors. That kind of thing doesn't help the investigation at all.
I remember the FB pages during the Jessi Evans/Jacob Wheeler disappearance here in Illinois, and you wouldn't believe the flat-out untrue things people would post on there just to get a little attention. I actually am friends with one of the admins on the Find Kristy page, and she is not a rude or vindictive person at all. I get why they are doing what they are doing. If anyone has a legitimate tip, they should turn it over to the police, not talk about it on FB.

It was getting later and later, and I'm thinking that she may have actually made it to her home, realized she left the phone, searched around in her car, purse, and jeans only to find out that she didn't have it. So, she fires the car back up and heads back to the bar, only this time driving a little faster to get there.

When she got back to the bar, there was someone (or numerous people) lurking around in that parking lot after the bar was closed and locked. It's my opinion that this would have been where everything went wrong.

But why would a person or persons be hanging around the bar after it closed, when they had no way of knowing that she or any other person would be coming back by? Boonville is pretty dead that time of night.

 

[Inthedetails]

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When she got back to the bar, there was someone (or numerous people) lurking around in that parking lot after the bar was closed and locked. It's my opinion that this would have been where everything went wrong.

I lean toward this to, except the part about leaving the bar without saying anything to her friend. That seems like a strange (and rude) thing to do. Why would she leave without saying good-bye, especially if she had plans with the bartender?

ETA: Just to clarify: I'm not calling KK rude, but wondering if she was abducted from the VFW while the others were in the backroom. She didn't leave without saying good-bye, but was taken. I'm not totally sold on that scenario, but it's the one that makes the most sense to me at this point.

 

[SStarr33]

Wrong thread

 

[concernedmother]

Im not talking about speculation etc. Im talking about attacking other groups and organizations claiming they are just after PR. Ive already seen another awareness group that is upset about it and these people have been out busting their tails taking time from their own families to search in this heat. They are from a different county. They have about 14 people administrating the page now. One of them my son went to school with and she is a nice girl too. I dont know exactly who is doing this but I think its tacky. Warrick county is a very difficult search area and they need everyone they can get.

 

[steelman]

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I lean toward this to, except the part about leaving the bar without saying anything to her friend. That seems like a strange (and rude) thing to do. Why would she leave without saying good-bye, especially if she had plans with the bartender?

ETA: Just to clarify: I'm not calling KK rude, but wondering if she was abducted from the VFW while the others were in the backroom. She didn't leave without saying good-bye, but was taken. I'm not totally sold on that scenario, but it's the one that makes the most sense to me at this point.

That I don't know. What I also don't know is how much of what we heard initially was just rumor or gossip concerning what she did or didn't do while in the bar. I think a lot of that stuff came from the Facebook crowd. I haven't seen an interview with the bartender or the cleaning person, and so I am just taking what was supposedly said with a grain of salt. I think a lot of the details about what happened in the bar that night have gotten all jumbled up over time.

 

[concernedmother]

I was just thinking maybe there should be more foot searches. There is a real possibility her car and body may not be found in the same area. It wouldnt surprise me if her car is found far away from here. What better way to through off suspicion to find her car in another state?

 

[Topcat]

Are you talking about on the Facebook page? Because I have to respectfully disagree. That page isn't meant for speculation or rumors. That kind of thing doesn't help the investigation at all.
I remember the FB pages during the Jessi Evans/Jacob Wheeler disappearance here in Illinois, and you wouldn't believe the flat-out untrue things people would post on there just to get a little attention. I actually am friends with one of the admins on the Find Kristy page, and she is not a rude or vindictive person at all. I get why they are doing what they are doing. If anyone has a legitimate tip, they should turn it over to the police, not talk about it on FB.



But why would a person or persons be hanging around the bar after it closed, when they had no way of knowing that she or any other person would be coming back by? Boonville is pretty dead that time of night.

maybe they knew the bartender or clean up guy or maybe get a fast last drink or drug deal...

 

[88keys]

I was just thinking maybe there should be more foot searches. There is a real possibility her car and body may not be found in the same area. It wouldnt surprise me if her car is found far away from here. What better way to through off suspicion to find her car in another state?

I think the problem is that they cannot legally walk onto private property without a warrant unless the landowner gives permission.

I'm wondering if they have checked the long term parking at EVV, and the Indy and Louisville airports.

I'm also wondering if there is any way they can check the river.

 

[concernedmother]

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.062...!1e1!3m2!1siqyGIv0F-dJ-PgydfA8ntA!2e0!6m1!1e1
Is this the area they used to call lovers lane? Maybe it still is called that? Looks like alot of woods back there. I guess because she was down on the east end of town I think if someone took off to the country with her they would take one of these north roads. Im available all this week to go search. I just dont know where.

 

[concernedmother]

I'm a lurker but thought I would respond to a few questions. I live in Boonville and have been helping with the search.

- Someone mentioned aerial searches. They have been doing these with a private plane since she went missing. I haven't seen any go over in a few days but they may just be looking in other locations.

- I believe her phone was found on the bathroom counter, as if she set it down to wash her hands and forgot it.

- All roads in the county have been searched by car at least once and in some cases more than once. People have also searched around lakes, looking for tire tracks or disturbed vegetation. One day there were over 600 people out driving and on foot looking last week. Many locations such as parking garages, car lots, parking lots and the areas between Boonville and Evansville have also been searched.

- There was also an ATV ride a few nights ago with over 100 ATVs showing up and searching hard to reach areas all over the county.

- There aren't really any deep lakes in town that she may have gone into. Even city lake probably isn't deep enough to conceal a car.

- There are a ton of lakes in the county, probably over 100, but most are not right up on the road so driving into one on accident seems like a long shot. My mind keeps going to Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife area. It is remote, though only 10 min from Boonville, there are over 28 pits and deep lakes in the area, and the road is really bad. You are always weaving to avoid potholes. There are a lot of deer and other wildlife running around. There are some big lakes right up on the road out there. It is the way I usually take to Elberfeld, but I certainly wouldn't drive out there in the middle of the night. It's too desolate! I think there are 2500 acres out there, 600 acres of it is water, and much of it hard to get to unless you are on foot or on an ATV. I can absolutely see an accident with a deer running across the road, but I can't imagine why she would be out there in the middle of the night.

Well this sounds like a good area to dispose of her car. It would take alot of people to search it.

 

[liltexans]

I don't know if this link from Thursday was posted, but there is an almost 10 minute local news interview with Kristy's father. Some of the questions that have come up here are answered in the video.

http://www.tristatehomepage.com/sto...-scales-and-rand/15735/Lk1yvrj1CEOjyxb2iWs-SA

 

[Seajay]

The kids were with their father that night for one. Father doesn't think she would ever do something to harm herself. He says it's definitely her car and he inferred it was her car in both videos, coming and going, not just headed towards home. Marc Klaas has contacted them. He talked to Joelle Lockwood's mother but they isn't a connection between the other missing girls and Kristy.

 

[hambirg]

That I don't know. What I also don't know is how much of what we heard initially was just rumor or gossip concerning what she did or didn't do while in the bar. I think a lot of that stuff came from the Facebook crowd. I haven't seen an interview with the bartender or the cleaning person, and so I am just taking what was supposedly said with a grain of salt. I think a lot of the details about what happened in the bar that night have gotten all jumbled up over time.

Yeah, I have to wonder. We have heard very little from LE in this case. It feels different or weird to me. Where is the news conferences, state police, etc? I have a feeling they know some big, key bit of information that we are not hearing.

I am still firmly stuck at this being an accident until they find her car. It's not that I don't think there could be other possible scenarios, it's just that I feel that has to be ruled out. I'm not convinced it has. Do we know anything about her earlier accident? I know there was talk of her having an accident and her air bag and dash not being fully fixed. I would love to know the details of that.

 

[NoraEltrain]

Does anyone know if they have searched Pigeon Creek?

 

[steelman]

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.062...!1e1!3m2!1siqyGIv0F-dJ-PgydfA8ntA!2e0!6m1!1e1
Is this the area they used to call lovers lane? Maybe it still is called that? Looks like alot of woods back there. I guess because she was down on the east end of town I think if someone took off to the country with her they would take one of these north roads. Im available all this week to go search. I just dont know where.

I'm sure they would appreciate all the help they could get. I know they have a central meeting place set up there in town where they want everyone to sign in before they go out to search. I think it is that Studio Bee---run by her dad's friend. Make sure and take a pair of powerful binoculars if you have them, it makes scanning private property a lot easier from the roadway. Try and scan densely wooded treelines with the binoculars as well, looking for sunlight reflecting off of metal, or a vehicle tucked back in the shadows.

 

[Tonia]

That I don't know. What I also don't know is how much of what we heard initially was just rumor or gossip concerning what she did or didn't do while in the bar. I think a lot of that stuff came from the Facebook crowd. I haven't seen an interview with the bartender or the cleaning person, and so I am just taking what was supposedly said with a grain of salt. I think a lot of the details about what happened in the bar that night have gotten all jumbled up over time.

Most of the stuff that was posted in here as far as her not saying anything to the bartender before she left and the "small dispute" came from the girl that with her that night...