I'm 23.. I didn't know what a ping was before this website.. I just asked two of my friends (both 22) and they didn't know. And we're all extremely attached to our phones. I guess I'm saying I'd call it a "maybe" rather than a "most certainly".
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I'm 23.. I didn't know what a ping was before this website.. I just asked two of my friends (both 22) and they didn't know. And we're all extremely attached to our phones. I guess I'm saying I'd call it a "maybe" rather than a "most certainly".
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2- LE has told us that they will not give us all the info that they have on the case. I for one do not know that 2:51 is the last video. They haven't even finished reviewing the entire video evidence as of the last press conference, so at the time they said 2:51 is the last video, they certainly hadn't viewed ALL the video.
4. cameras have a fairly small range, it is possible that she was not in the range of the camera- too close to the wall, too close to the street. And I can't for sure I remember that anyone has documented a camera in that particular place. It could be that covered walkway area from what I remember - and clearly one could be there, but not on the video.
If you don't think it is significant, why is so important to discount it?
I believe the last line means other sources (MB? JR?) reported LS being somewhere else at 3:38 am. Presumably MB's, CR's and JR's apartment building.
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Maybe because they know who the person is?
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wow, I'm surprised. But thanks for letting me know. I guess all the 20 somethings I know are more interested in covering their tracks than you are!
Hmm, now exactly what are they all up to??
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Maybe you didn't understand exactly what a ping was, but did you know that you could be tracked through your cellphone? I would think most people would assume that.
I wish he wasn't so confusing, but yes, it sounded that way. Approximately an hour before 3:38 am, which would make it around 2:30 am.
Honestly, I have the option to turn GPS off/on on my phone, and I always assumed that if I had it on "off" that I couldn't be tracked. I know that sounds silly but I've never had any reason to worry about being tracked or not so I've never given it much thought. And I think maybe if someone was faced with needing to make some really quick decisions (like disposing of a body), they might not think about something like that if they had never thought of it before. Or maybe they would, I don't know. It's definitely not something I would think of in the moment.
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In any event, my hope is that even if these folks are ping-savvy, it is quite possible that they did not remember to take the batteries out of the their phones until they were in the their car and on the way to the place they left Lauren...(a phone will still "ping" if only turned off-I think it is kind of like how my tv still downloads my DTV data at night even though it is turned off). So LE might still have some pinging going on in a direction leading away from town.
Can someone please explain to me this notion of not knowing if security camera clocks are off? I can't for the life of me understand why they can't stand in front of one of the cameras while looking at their watch, then look at the tape of them standing in front of the camera and compare the times.
I think if a POI was "pinging" on that particular night at some particular direction, LE would be further along in their search then they appear to be (at least to me).
Yes, I read that one too, which is why it's so confusing. Actually, I believe I've now read THREE - all reports of the SAME attorney's comment.
One said it happened later that morning.
One said it happened later that day.
One (the one I quoted) said a few days later.
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Possibly...just not sure if they have to get phone records from various companies, other states, etc...some require warrants, some cooperate more easily...I guess I am hoping pings play a part, as that may be the only clue to where Lauren is, if no one will tell...
Sorry this is from way back, but the logic just seems so off to me.
According to the facebook rumors JW and LS were on the outs as of May 30th and he was asking LS to re-friend him or something of that nature. It is rumored he was rather unhappy with the turn of events. Didn't see the page so just a rumor. If they weren't completely broken up she took away his FB friend privileges for one reason or another.
This reeks of someone who sure as HELL would care if his GF or ex-GF was out just a few days after the end of/ a massive fight in a 2+ year relationship with another guy. These are college age kids, trust me, they go crazy over much lesser "offenses". The pictures of JW and LS have always looked to me like he was more into her than the other way around; it's possible, but who knows, picture are subjective. IF JW and LS had broken up, or at least had an argument that caused a de-friending, there is motive in that. It's not like he's going to go "oh well, LS broke up with me 3 days ago, guess it's gravy". His friends felt the need to "defend" him that night against CR who was with his "girl".
As for HT, this little facebook thing actually helped me pin down what my problem is with her. She seems WAY to into LS and JW's relationship. It seems possible to me that when DR returned he told HT that LS had gone to the bar with CR. HT could have called JW or contacted JW about it. She seems to be defending JW a bit too much for him being her roomie's boyfriend. It is even odder if LS and JW were on the outs. It looks like, no reviewing the old video, that HT might be romanticizing the relationship JW and LS had, maybe she thought LS was being awful to JW and gave him a heads up.
Sometimes things seem so OBVIOUS to some. Sometimes I read about a crime and wonder if "Barney and Fife" did the investigating LOL I don't mean that disrespectfully......just comically.
That morning would make some sense.. it could have been one of the reasons JW felt that LS was really missing.
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What did BPD confirm again? As far as I can tell, all they have confirmed is that the individual on the last video containing LS, at 2:51AM, is known to them. I think there are few who doubt that individual is CR. While there may be a mystery man, I don't believe BPD has ever confirmed that possibility.
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Interesting. I think he is saying that her time doesn't jive with the prior sources - could be other reported sightings of LS, as well as the videos.
Which shouldn't be as big as it hit me, since I would hope lots of people saw LS during that night and reported it.
But interesting phrasing there. What do you make of it? He normally doesn't seem to be so carefully unclear in his speaking style, except for this "encounter witness".
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