Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #81

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Gas was cheaper in SLC, and she needed to return to car with a full tank, or be charged Calif. gas prices by the rental company.

Jodi turned the rental empty, with stains on the seats and no floor matts.

About the gps discussion... you have to pay more if you go out of state. Jodi said she was going to use it around town, and did she have to pay for going out of state?
 
Someone asked about what JA did during her 4-5 hours in Salinas.

I believe she had a mani-pedi, colored her hair, had lunch, had a facial and a Brazilian wax. That much $ would make it worth getting it done at the last minute in Salinas - another reason, that pubic hair grows fast.

Someone else asked whose dime would pay for that and I have an opinion. I think she promised old Daryl a fun time with her new Brazilian for a little financial assistance. He agreed, which freed up her travel money for the salon. She deposited the money right after she left Daryl.

I love this brainstorming that goes on here and have had my eyes popped open and said o.m.g and my daughter says, "What?"

And I answer, "A poster suggested Jodi Arias might have been a blonde the whole time and the dark hair was just a RINSE at the salon and not a DYE!"

She looks at me like I have lost my mind, "Let me get this straight. You gasped because her hair was rinsed?"

So grateful for websleuths!

My sister was here 2 weeks ago and I was going through the trial consternation just like you. And explaining and wanting to talk about it. I just found it was better to say 'whatever" when my sister and I would discuss... but now it is all over the news, and at least she knows who it is.

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I always wondered if she was dressed as a "ninja" at first, or at least had her face covered initially. I always thought he looked confused or frightened in the picture of him looking at the camera in the shower and wondered if she presented with a mask on and then pulled it off just before attacking him.

Poor Travis. I hate her.

Interesting you bring that up, as I was thinking the same earlier but wasn't going to address it. That would fit into her 'ninja' story too. He had such a shocked expression on his face, I think it's a real possibility that she had on a mask, then removed it. She's so evil and sadistic, I'm sure she thought it was really funny. :furious:
 
Unfortunately most of the details regarding the BMW have not been cleared up during the trial, and it is basically her word (which is worthless) as to what the arrangements were. And ironically there is no mention of the car in the most recent text messages between Travis and JA. I do believe she owed him money, irregardless of where the car was located, and hadn't been making any payments, therefore the check left on his desk. What is missing, however, is if he was going to take any legal action against her for the damages or if they had a formal arrangement she has not disclosed.

MOO

Don't forget her claim that she called a lot of people while she was driving because she was so bored....

So it would follow that she wouldn't be able to go long without being on the phone.
 
Interesting you bring that up, as I was thinking the same earlier but wasn't going to address it. That would fit into her 'ninja' story too. He had such a shocked expression on his face, I think it's a real possibility that she had on a mask, then removed it. She's so evil and sadistic, I'm sure she thought it was really funny. :furious:

I hear what you're saying, turning up disguised as a ninja is one thing, but what would be the point of appearing as a photography ninja?

The photos were never intended for keeping, in my opinion. They were a means by which to lure him into the most vulnerable place and position.
 
Interesting you bring that up, as I was thinking the same earlier but wasn't going to address it. That would fit into her 'ninja' story too. He had such a shocked expression on his face, I think it's a real possibility that she had on a mask, then removed it. She's so evil and sadistic, I'm sure she thought it was really funny. :furious:

I find it so frustrating that not one neighbor saw anything that afternoon. From what I've seen, it looks like the houses are no more than a few yards apart!
Also it looks like a pretty affluent neighborhood and yet not ONE.....surveillance video either? Golly.
The audacity and pure moxie of this woman is mind boggling.
 
Hi My WS Friends!

Forgive me, I am still on the other weekend thread. But.....I did something I should not have done! I looked at the photo of JA's private area....

EWWWW!!!

Can I bleach my eyes out now? Is my computer infected lol?

Sorry, but that is just nasty....Who poses for those types of photos?

I am 48 also! Lots of 48yo on the boards......

:waitasec:
 
That is interesting about the shower.
Where WAS the soap and/or shampoo? Hmmmm
 
I just one of the more disgusting words (and there are many) out of Jodi's mouth was when a juror ask her a anal sex. I can't remember her exact answer, does anyone remember? She would have one believe Travis wanted anal sex and it was something she rarely did with her other lovers. And of course DB had to say they only did it one time, yeah right. What say you........moo

Nah, I think that anal sex was definitely JA's thing. I was in my earlier life almost a goody two shoes, but then had my fair share of experiences during my early 20's when I was trying to 'discover' myself, :blushing:, and I never had a guy actually come out and 'ask' for that. Any decent guy isn't going to do that, unless maybe he's with a paid escort / prostitute. Call me naive, but there's just no doubt in my mind that JA was the initiator. She would do anything, anything, to lure a guy into her web. As vulgar and open as she is concerning sex, I would also bet she was always extremely 'loose', and still wonder if she didn't work as a prostitute at times. I can just see her hitting all the truck stops on one of her many famous road trips. As many as she took, she had to do something to pay for them. JMO
 
I don't know about anybody else, but I would be interested in knowing WHEN JA opened that second bank account. You know, the one for her budding photography business.

I can't get past this, either: What wedding photographer murders somebody IN JUNE?!?

Opening the "business" accounts for PPL and the Wedding Photographer fake business are ways to reuse the same money as "income" (moving money through the various accounts) to make it look like there is income to deduct expenses against. It is a common way to cheat on taxes.

It also enables multiple check kiting.

It also allows her to give the appearance of success and write checks to different people from various accounts, depending on who she's claiming to be that day.

IMO, Arias did not take a single wedding photo. She didn't want to work, she wanted to travel with wealthy men as a trophy girlfriend and then (hopefully) wife. Hanging a camera around her neck gave her an "occupation" other than "*advertiser censored*."
 
In my notes, MattM (possibly his roommate too) and JA went out in Santa Cruz CA. No confirmation but ... I wonder if MattM's "The Red Room" or "karaoke bar" is PaulS' "bar/grill/restaurant"?:

6/2; evening Santa Cruz CA Visit w/MattMcC; went out to The Red Room then to karaoke bar; spent night at Matt's

6/2 PaulS, friend from bar/grill/restaurant, said he loaned JA money; said she was frantic, had to go back and see TA; he said she paid him back at a later date; "Well, the day before she left, she was pretty frantic that she had to go back and see Travis, and she talked about how he was seeing other people and she asked to borrow money and I gave her money."

It seems that this Paul S would be a good rebuttal witness. Frantic and apparently jealous Jodi as opposed to her testimony that TA had to convince her to go to AZ.
 
Nah, I think that anal sex was definitely JA's thing. I was never a shrinking violet, but far from a goody two shoes either, :blushing:, and I never had a guy actually come out and 'ask' for that. Any decent guy isn't going to do that, unless maybe he's with a paid escort / prostitute. Call me naive, but there's just no doubt in my mind that JA was the initiator. She would do anything, anything, to lure a guy into her web. As vulgar and open as she is concerning sex, I would also bet she was always extremely 'loose', and still wonder if she didn't work as a prostitute at times. I can just see her hitting all the truck stops on one of her many famous road trips. As many as she took, she had to do something to pay for them. JMO

I know guys who would totally ask for that. Not saying it wasn't her "thing" but that doesn't mean it wasn't his "thing" too.
 
thanks I missed his testimony. He was very evasive and more than a little bit snarky at times. Why would anyone want to protect the person that slaughtered another human being is way beyond me.

Fear? It's a huge motivator. DB saw up close and personal what she was capable of doing and he sure doesn't want him or his son to be next if Jodi was capable of pulling off a Casey Anthony. Personally I would try to be the nail in her coffin if I was that afraid of her, but I'm more like Travis. TA was too honest for his own good with her. He didn't realize that his confronting her with the truth was his death sentence. IMO, DB wasnt just protecting JA, he was protecting his family...sister, new baby...etc. Facing this level of evil will do that to a person.
 
Nah, I think that anal sex was definitely JA's thing. I was never a shrinking violet, but far from a goody two shoes either, :blushing:, and I never had a guy actually come out and 'ask' for that. Any decent guy isn't going to do that, unless maybe he's with a paid escort / prostitute. Call me naive, but there's just no doubt in my mind that JA was the initiator. She would do anything, anything, to lure a guy into her web. As vulgar and open as she is concerning sex, I would also bet she was always extremely 'loose', and still wonder if she didn't work as a prostitute at times. I can just see her hitting all the truck stops on one of her many famous road trips. As many as she took, she had to do something to pay for them. JMO

I definitelt think it was JA that initiated the anal idea. She was probably the one who said it really doesn't count as sex. Travis knew better, but went along with it because, well, he got sex. I truly believe JA was the corruptor and initiator.
 
There is a lot that makes sense about Travis being held a prisoner that day. But what about the pictures of her? Couldn't he get away if she was in such a vulnerable position? Or call the police or turn the tables on her with a weapon? My mind is still boggled about that whole day.

Is it possible that there was in fact rope, and that SHE used it to tie up Travis? Even though it was a sleigh bed, which complicates that theory.
 
Hi My WS Friends!

Forgive me, I am still on the other weekend thread. But.....I did something I should not have done! I looked at the photo of JA's private area....

EWWWW!!!

Can I bleach my eyes out now? Is my computer infected lol?

Sorry, but that is just nasty....Who poses for those types of photos?

I am 48 also! Lots of 48yo on the boards......



:waitasec:


That *advertiser censored* was totally nasty. You KNOW she took those pics herself...hustler wouldn't even want that nonsense ..."LOL
 
While I was needling regarding JA's characterizations of DB as an alcoholic chimney, the reason I beg to differ has to do with his testimony, which was initially reluctant and less than forthcoming.

I recall distinctly on Day 10, after her mentor, Gus Searcy testified, that DB first denied recalling JA's telephonic gas can request --even under oath -- until continuing to be pressed by JM.

http://youtu.be/soNJs_9FCPY?t=1h33m48s

For context, start at the 1:33:00 point in the clip.

This was, of course, after JA had brutally stabbed, sliced, and shot Travis Alexander, and DB was rather reluctant to openly testify that JA had called him in May of 2008 to ask him for a favor. In fact, he was a Defense witness.

When JM first questions DB about whether he remembers the phone call asking for the favor, DB answers, "No."

Then JM gets more specific. He asks whether DB remembers JA calling to ask to borrow two gas cans so that she could make a trip to Mesa, Arizona, and whether DB remembers that.

There is a rather long, awkward and very pregnant pause of nearly six seconds before DB barely whispers, "Yes."

You could almost hear everyone in that courtroom gasp when it happened.

And I rest my case regarding DB's allegiance to the lying torture-murderess.

i don't agree. it was reluctant....but he was forthcoming. if he was truly aiding and abetting he would have purjured himself. Instead he told the truth and continued. Telling the truth is what was required and he did it. Nothing he said helped her in any way and he realized it. so i don't see it, nor do i personally care how reluctant he was...he still did it. Not like MM who said he'd gladly lie for her-which is true aiding and abetting.

Also does not matter that he was a defense witness. She was a sociopath and possibly didn't see the full real JA until it was pointed out in a way that helped him connect the dots. A lot of people have a hard time seeing someone they love or loved as a demon. So? He still got it and testified against her even though it was defense's witness. Still didn't protect her.

On the stand you are required to answer questions as they are phrased, no more, no less. You don't offer up answers to questions that haven't been asked. So sure he could know more but unless he is called back to the stand and specifically asked he doesn't need to say anymore. Same goes for prosecution side- answer the truth, don't elaborate unless asked. Semantics i guess...have to agree to disagree

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Fear? It's a huge motivator. DB saw up close and personal what she was capable of doing and he sure doesn't want him or his son to be next if Jodi was capable of pulling off a Casey Anthony. Personally I would try to be the nail in her coffin if I was that afraid of her, but I'm more like Travis. TA was too honest for his own good with her. He didn't realize that his confronting her with the truth was his death sentence. IMO, DB wasnt just protecting JA, he was protecting his family...sister, new baby...etc. Facing this level of evil will do that to a person.

Thats exactly it. i wouldn't show my face either for that same reason. Not everyone in JA's past has their world revolving around her.

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Oh yes, he's a defence witness alright! Couldn't remember anything that might be used against JA.

I'm listeneing to DB's testimony now.

He does seem to have caught "The Arias Fog".

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I have decided that I am not ever going to refer to her as "Jodi". It makes me feel like I am talking about a person I know and like and respect. I have switched off between calling her "Jodi" & "Arias", but I will not refer to her by her first name anymore. So there!!!
 
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