Is Ronald's sister Crystal C. living at 202 Green Lane?

[Whisperer]

Maybe she was on the lease with ron cummings before she moved to Lady Lake and her mother to Fruitland Park.

I think somebody is playing games with the white pages. As I said something similar happened with TN and her Rita addy...(which she never had) that she acquired after the fact.

If it is true then she may have said she lived there between moves. I noticed the Wrights were listed too and they were said to have moved out last February. Maybe TN put the utilities in Crystal's name...another thought. We know nothing is in RC's name.

 

[LFlorida]

Maybe Crystal C & son were the reason for the bigger mobile home? Perhaps she and her little boy had moved in with Ron and them. Then, for whatever reason, it didn't work out?

I have been called to task about my unfamiliarity with the family dynamics and it is true. I don't know what they are. What little I do know, I don't understand.

For example - we have all seen how "Teflon Ron" has never served a day in spite of his many criminal charges. But per Marion County Clerk of Courts criminal dockets, in 2004 his younger sister pretty much went directly to jail for 90 days with no intervention or assistance from her family. [I believe the charge was resisting an officer without violence.]

That's got to hurt. [Not implying CC did anything in retaliation; just an observation about the family dynamics.]

Here is a link to a map of Florida Counties with links to each county's Clerk of Court website: http://lakecountyclerk.org/misc_flamap.asp

 

[Whisperer]

Ya know LF, this entire housing situation with the Cummings is a big mess. Nothing is as it seems. People do not live where they say and some places where they say they live have no record of existence, but we know it is there. This has to be the strangest family I have been involved in trying to get information concerning their residence. After seeing GMA Sykes as listed for Rita Lane, that did it for me. So far as living in that 12 ft wide single trailer, we have rc, tn (her words), as, cc...all over the span of 5 years. They say it is a rental...???? It certainly isn't beachfront property. Now why do they all list as living in this place? We know for the most part they don't. I suggest it is a storage place, only. I will go with that till I am told something different that is true. There is no parcel or any info either....somebody figure that one out. All the MHs on that land are owned by one individual, 105 is not listed as hers...it is not listed period.

I think the White pages were corrupted, like I said, I've seen this done before with TN and her Rita addy.

 

[Whisperer]

LF...Thanks for bringing that to the attention. CC does seem to be out of the picture often. Maybe the women in the family favor rc more than anyone, maybe he needs more help than any other. Seems to get assistance often, that's for sure. He also had a dependent personality and is a drama queen/king.

 

[Busylady]

I use a bunch of different programs but mainly use govregistryus and a program I have access to that confirms tenants of an address by utilities. I did not write down which program I used to obtain the CC name back in Feb, however govregistryus shows her name as of 11/08 so I am assuming that is the one I obtained the info from. I went in tonight using the program which verifies by utilities and ran 202 Green - in Nov 2008 it indicates RC as tenant does not show CC at that time, it currently shows another tenant as of 8/2009 but not going to put her name out there and utilities in RC and landlord name up until 6/2009 when RC name was removed.

123people and pipl are also good programs to get a starting point to research additional info on players.

Addressing this because of other post on the thread not directly to you nomoresorrow - Also it shows TN as of 2/08 at Rita Lane per utiliities, which is one of the reasons along with police report, response time, local sources etc I am confident TN resided at Rita Lane at the time Haleigh went missing and still resides there.

Hi Busy, wow, I've never seen Crystal's name associated with 202 Green Lane. As I said earlier, since the beginning of this case I've done periodic address/phone searches on case players but I'm going to look thru my saved pics - I save alot of screenshots so maybe I saved one (or some) of my past search results. Do you use the same website search source as I do (link in my post) or a different one? Thanks --

 

[nomoresorrow]

I use a bunch of different programs but mainly use govregistryus and a program I have access to that confirms tenants of an address by utilities. I did not write down which program I used to obtain the CC name back in Feb, however govregistryus shows her name as of 11/08 so I am assuming that is the one I obtained the info from. I went in tonight using the program which verifies by utilities and ran 202 Green - in Nov 2008 it indicates RC as tenant does not show CC at that time, it currently shows another tenant as of 8/2009 but not going to put her name out there and utilities in RC and landlord name up until 6/2009 when RC name was removed.

123people and pipl are also good programs to get a starting point to research additional info on players.

Addressing this because of other post on the thread not directly to you nomoresorrow - Also it shows TN as of 2/08 at Rita Lane per utiliities, which is one of the reasons along with police report, response time, local sources etc I am confident TN resided at Rita Lane at the time Haleigh went missing and still resides there.

Thanks Busy! Just so you know, I haven't looked thru any of my pics yet to see if I have any saved screen shots from my prior searches. I'm not sure that I will tonight unless I get a second wind - It could happen but at the moment I'm propping both eyes open with toothpicks. I just hate saying that I'm going to do something and not doing it... :innocent:

 

[Whisperer]

Police report means nothing. Incident reports are not investigative reports. People often lie to responding LE.

Recently misty gave her address as 202 Green. TN may have put utilities in her name on Rita but she was living with her paramour in Fruitland Park. According to my records AS name was on rita lane in 2008 and so was CC.

 

[Whisperer]

Teresa Neves....last address:

PO BOX .... FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-0787
FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-0787
LAKE COUNTY
As of: 5/2009
Household Members
None Listed
Other Associates
H, JEFF G

2: 3444 E.... N.... RD FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-5466
FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-5466
LAKE COUNTY
As Of 11/2008
Telephone: 7
Household Members
None Listed
Other Associates
H, JEFF G

 

[Whisperer]

I think somebody should find out about this rita lane thing and why it has been hanging around. It is a 12 ft wide single in the middle of no-where. Why are they all listed as living here at one time or another? Is it a refuge? Is it a storage unit. Rent must be awfully cheap. It is also not available for any kind of research either. No parcel or 911 number ( a must) attached to it....hmmmm. The way these people move and to keep this pitiful place around for years has to have a story attached. It is odd for any of these people to roost more than a few months, no less 5 years.

 

[LFlorida]

I think somebody should find out about this rita lane thing and why it has been hanging around. It is a 12 ft wide single in the middle of no-where. Why are they all listed as living here at one time or another? Is it a refuge? Is it a storage unit. Rent must be awfully cheap. It is also not available for any kind of research either. No parcel or 911 number ( a must) attached to it....hmmmm. The way these people move and to keep this pitiful place around for years has to have a story attached. It is odd for any of these people to roost more than a few months, no less 5 years.

Thank you, whips!!! IF the photos we have seen are really 105 Rita Ln and IF Teresa & Jeff live there, then I know just where to look for docs. thx for the lightbulb moment.

 

[Whisperer]

Ron's sister is also attached to this Rita lane addy...recently as of 2008. Her last address is in Lady Lake for 20009. Now, how in the world did she get to Green Lane. I think somebody is messing with the "White Pages" again. Like I said, they've done it before. If we are on the track and family is around here reading, I expect something to change ASAP, at least on paper.

 

[Whisperer]

LF, do you really think JH lives there in that tiny space? How in the worlld did the family have all those Grand Dinners made by Papa Jeff at that house?

 

[LFlorida]

LF, do you really think JH lives there in that tiny space? How in the worlld did the family have all those Grand Dinners made by Papa Jeff at that house?

Oh my, I guess I really am white trash after all.

We don't have a formal sit-down dinner for holiday meals. More like a covered-dish affair complete with paper plates and plastic utensils. You sit where ever you can find a spot - be it the front porch stairs, the couch, folding beach chairs, whatever.

Papa Jeff might smoke the turkey, or fry it. [Don't knock it - inject some jalapeno flavoring in one of those babies, dunk it in your fish fryer - Mmmm, it's so good! really!]

 

[Whisperer]

LF...you have totally blown me away...

 

[Whisperer]

There's always a chance he doesn't like large homes and prefers to live in cramped 12 ft MH with the love of his life while he is paying for a spacious home in a nice neighborhood, I suppose?:waitasec:

 

[LFlorida]

LF...you have totally blown me away...

<giggling wildly>

It's true.

Is it just my computer or did your avi disappear for a while and then suddenly just re-appear?

 

[LFlorida]

There's always a chance he doesn't like large homes and prefers to live in cramped 12 ft MH with the love of his life while he is paying for a spacious home in a nice neighborhood, I suppose?:waitasec:

You've got a good point there, whips. Mebbe they got evicted from the Ann Street place. [Was it Ann St? Over in Lady Lake, iirc.]

 

[Whisperer]

I tried to fix my email in the pgm, and blew myself off the forum. I am dangerous when it comes to emails...sorry.

Just checking ole Jeff H. and his latest court cases up in Lake. Notices to him were not deliverable.

Yes, I beleive CC lived on Ann in Lady Lake but have to check that. yep...verified. Ron also had this as an addy.

 

[titanfan62702]

Just found this thread, and while interesting, it probably means nothing.

It doesn't take much for a person's name to be associated with an address if you have the same last name especially if there has been any change of address form.

 

[LFlorida]

Does anybody know much about the KN0WLE$ family? Some kind of important correlation w/Annette, but I can't quite put my finger on it.