Is there any chance?

[Jeana (DP)]

I think that if she did it, yes Darin had involvement. He had to be. And you are right to say that if he knew about it and covered up for her, helped stage, or anything else he is as guilty as she is. Wrong is wrong, no matter how much involvement he had. There is no gray area, IMO, of amount of involvement and guilt.
However, for some reason I have a really hard time with this case. I have been following it since the day it hit the news. I have read everything I can find on it, and really studied it, and I don't think she did it. I have taken many MANY college courses on criminal psychology and profiling (haven't gotten my degree in it yet because I think it's more important for me to be available for my kids right now).
I think she should be retried. If she were retried and found guilty again, I could accept that and admit loudly that I was wrong. However, even the court transcripts make it hard for her to appeal fairly because they contain so many errors that change the light of entire statements during the trial. So I say before you send people to death, atleast go the extra mile and make dang sure they got a fair shake.
I feel for those boys every day. I know they are with God in a better place, but life on Earth was stolen from them. I am not forgetting them. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think about them, honestly.
But Texas is America... and America, by definition, is fair.
Well anyway, my view only.... try not to be too painful on me. I left a message on the Jonbenet Ramsey and almost got my head bit off because I asked about whether or not the bedwetting and infections were a recent developement.

We welcome your opinion. However, you're incorrect about the court transcripts. There were errors; however, they have been corrected.

 

[deanws]

Yes Aussie, that is a really good show!

 

[Goody]

Well anyway, my view only.... try not to be too painful on me. I left a message on the Jonbenet Ramsey and almost got my head bit off because I asked about whether or not the bedwetting and infections were a recent developement.

Never, never, never take these posts personally. We respond to words, not people. They probably just didn't like your words. hahahahahah. Besides, there are rules around here and monitors to take us to task if we get too huffy. Welcome aboard, btw. Jeana is our fearless monitor leader on this thread.

 

[Goody]

If she is found guilty a second time get me on the next plane from Australia and I will push the plunger!)

hahahahahahahahahaha! We are going to flush her! hahahahahaha. Maybe we should though. Build a big toliet on death row. The bottom of the cell could fall away and send them plunging into oblivion.....or some big sewer system to drown in .....well, you get the picture, I guess. hahahahahahahaha! What an image that is!

BTW, welcome, Jayne.

Bottom line, I believe she is guilty but I would like it clearer to her supporters so that she can be quickly forgotten once the needle has done its job!

Jayne
(just my opinion of course)

Nothing will change most supporters minds. They won't listen to the evidence and when they do talk about it, it is unrecognizable because they have twisted it into some oddball intrepretation that borders on lunacy. No wonder Darlie calls them Greenies.

 

[Goody]

I am certainly not one to blow off anyone's input. I do just feel that the "Darlie supporters" do have some good reasons for why things look the way they do. For example, the kitchen sink. While I don't know what the heck she thought she was doing by wetting towels for the boy's wounds (remember though, she doesn't have much for education...), she does account for blood in the sink. I mean if she was bleeding all over the place, and she is wetting these towels, yea a lot of blood would go down the drain. She lost quite a bit of blood herself. I wouldn't call it a clean up when there was still quite a bit of blood there... .

If Darlie was wetting towels, why is there no evidence of watered down blood in the area? Surely she would not have been standing there calmly,taking her time to wet and ring them out so not a drop would spill. I would think she would be sloshing water everywhere. I sure would if I was in a panic to get towels to my bleeding children.

Also, why are the blood drops big and round the way they are when one is standing still bleeding. If she was hurriedly wetting towels, the drops should show signs of someone moving quickly as they twist about. The drops come from Darlie's arm, not her neck wound. The neck wound oozed and was absorbed mostly by the night shirt. It was the arm wound that left most of the blood about except maybe the footprints, which probably came from the neck wound as that blood trailed down her body to her feet.

There just isn't anything to support her claim that she was wetting towels.

and then there is the guy whom the cop saw when he was coming up to the house... he was running out the door, so the guy said that his wife and kids were hurt.... but when he got inside, low and behold there was Darin. Also, Darin can be heard on that portion of the 911 call. How could he have been both places? .

He couldn't. That was a rumor started by an internet poster who got it I think from the MTJD book. Both Officer Waddell said it was Darin who met him in the yard and the neighbor across the street Gorsuch watched the whole thing from his second floor bedroom window and said it was Darin. Darin tried to say he did not go out into the yard to meet Waddell, pitting his word against the young police officer's, because neither he or Darlie wanted to take credit for who unlocked the front door. They were both afraid it would implicate them, so they apparently opted instead to make it a Darin's word against Waddell's and Gorsuch's. Totally unbelievable.

AND if what she says is true about something being placed in her mouth.... lack of oxygen does all kinds of things to the brain, as does this intensity of fear. When the brain is trying to process what happened, the story that emerges will change. Because the brain is desperately trying to remember, and "false memories" can be formed. .

So where are the broken blood vessels that often accompany suffocation? I get them from astham attacks. If we're supposed to believe that her brain did all you descrbe, there ought to be some physical sign to back up the claim. Of course, people who have a motive to lie often do just that....lie.

I don't think that the boys were the object of the break in, Darlie was. Perhaps she was seen through the window, but the boys were blocked by the furniture. There was another attempted break in down the street earlier that night. Bottom line, if the boys weren't seen until after they came in.... perhaps Darlie woke up, screamed but quickly the sock went in her mouth to quiet her. The boys began waking up. They saw the faces... they were a threat. Unfortunately they eliminated that threat. Back to Darlie. Perhaps someone had every intent to sexually assault her. Maybe she came back to and got the sock out of her mouth. The killers heard a noise upstairs and instead of dealing with whomever might be upstairs, they slit her throat (hoping it was deep enough), and ran (perhaps different directions, perhaps not).
I keep going back to this scenerio. And much of the evidence could also point this direction.
There was a shoe print, as well, by one of the boys bodies... and blood had seaped into it.

Again, please don' lynch me. Disagree nicely! lol.

We won't. You've just been listening to the wrong people. Why don't you read the transcripts yourself? All shoe prints found in the house were accounted for. They belonged to cops or paramedics.

There were no windows to see Darlie through. A peeper would have to be in the back yard and somehow strain his view through the slats of the blinds on the glass sliding doors. Without any evidence at all to back up any of these claims, it is just wild speculation,. On top of that, you have to throw out all of the evidence that was found to even entertain it.

O, the house that of the attempted break in was 4 or 5 blocks away, not just down the street. Not even in the same subdivision. There were two of them and they did not match the description Darlie gave.

 

[Goody]

The reason I said above that I would like to see her get a new trial was because they interviewed one of the jury members and he said he isn't sure that he would have voted the same way if he had seen the secret cemetary surviellence and also the photo's of her arms. So a retrial would do 2 things, make those jurors believe they did the right thing and also take away the grey area for her supporters.

I am sorry if I am dredging up old stuff here, I have tried to read most of the posts but I can't guarantee I will remember what is in all of them!!

Take care
Jayne

I would like to see a retrial, too, just to see what they could dig up now, but it won't happen. If it did, there will always be jurors who regret and supporters who never believe. So I don't think it would change anything.