GUILTY Italy - Costa Concordia Cruise Ship runs aground/flips, 2012

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Hearing about the "pass bys" and the "bows" I am getting a strong sense of a game of "chicken" among the captains.

Definitely very unprofessional and negligent behavior with an end result of many injured, several lost lives, and presumably more than have yet to be recovered. In addition there is severe damage to the ship as well as those who did survive without injury losing their possessions and confidence in the cruise industry.

Very, very sad.......and appalling.

MOO
 
I keep thinking of the hazerdous waste of all the bathrooms, cleaning chemicals, fuel and all the food that may attract bigger dangerous fish?
I can't even imagine what the divers have to go through, bless their hearts.
I'm so furious at this captain and his games!:furious:

One report I recall, said there are also dolphins in that area.

:(
 
Tonight: Cruise ship disaster, its lasting effects on passengers, witnesses

Thousands of vacationers were thrown into a nightmare when the ship they were on ran around over the weekend and sank off the Tuscan coast. How will this trauma affect those involved? Could anything have been done to mitigate the disastrous effects? Dr. Drew and his guests will discuss the dangers of taking cruises- from unforeseen events- to water and foodborne illnesses.

I watched Dr. Drew on HLN, but DH was using the computer so I couldn't post earlier. The American Ananias family - didn't get where they were from - mom, dad, two adult daughter (20-somethings) were in the studio with the host. They were among the last passengers to leave the sinking ship because they wanted to help others. It took five hours for them to finally get off the ship during which time they never saw an Officer offer assistance to passengers :furious: Some crew members, including a photographer, were aiding passengers by guiding them through an obstacle course of sorts to get to a lifeboat. Hopefully, the interview will be available on HLN website because this family exhibited courage, class, character, concern, and compassion for their fellow passengers in the midst of this tragedy: G-d bless these good people! My thoughts and prayers are with them as they recover from this horrendous ordeal.
 
tonight on nbc nightly news brian williams reported that it's mandated by law that evacuations only take 1/2 hour...

FIVE hours? :banghead:


(and yes i realize that the listing caused problems with 1/2 the lifeboats but they should've started to evac as soon as it was apparent there was trouble... i.e. as soon as they hit the rocks and before the captain -or whoever- steered the ship closer towards the harbor after hitting the rocks - that's when the concordia should've anchored and lifeboats filled/released imo)

personally, i think the captain was trying to figure out how to save his own hide instead of executing the safety initiatives that would've saved everyone :furious:
 
The cruiseline has been patting themselves on the back saying that the evacuation of 4200 people only took two hours. I thought that didn't sound right.
 
Several hours ago, I tried to post about the emergency drill - Muster - that is required by international maritime law to be conducted within 24 hours of departure. My post was lost when WS was taking forevah to load :maddening: Anyhoo, I'll try again and hope this time it will work.

I've read/heard conflicting reports on whether or not passengers who embarked the ship before January 13 (apparently some folks boarded on January 9) had already been through the "emergency exercise". Some American passengers who embarked at Civitavechhia (Rome) were interviewed on CNN this afternoon said that their muster was scheduled for Saturday at 5:00 - obviously too late for the Friday evening accident. They spoke to passengers who had been on the ship for a few days and had yet to perform the required safety drill :eek: As I said earlier, this is confusing and contrary to original reports that some passengers had, indeed, gone through emergency procedures on the vessel.

For those of you who haven't cruised, I want to explain a little bit about the Muster drill as it is often called. It is a requirement of all passenger vessels, and even though international law allows 24 hours leeway for this emergency exercise, DH and I have never sailed on a ship that did not Muster prior to leaving port. Similar to the "fire drills" the we all experienced in elementary through high school, Muster is a simulated situation in that passengers know ahead of time when it will take place and what is required of them. (Students might not know about an impending fire drill, but staff and teachers usually get a heads up ;) )

When the emergency signal sounds, you go to your stateroom, retrieve your lifevest, and report to your Muster station that is based on the general location of your cabin. Once assembled, a crew member will take attendance or swipe your cruise card, make sure that you know how to don your life jacket, how to board the lifeboats, and how to evacuate directly into the water if necessary. Each cruise line has slight variations on where passengers gather for this emergency exercise (indoors or out on deck), but the goal is the same: To inform everyone onboard what to do in the event of an emergency that might require departure from the vessel. Muster lasts about 20-30 minutes.

Unfortunately, many passengers don't take the emergency drill seriously. Some folks have already tossed back a few cocktails or show up at Muster with drink in hand. They don't pay attention to the safety instructions and tend to have the attitude that "nothing bad will happen" because they are on the ship to have a good time and enjoy their vacation. Since Muster is usually conducted within 45 minutes to an hour of scheduled sailaway, many passengers are eager to return their lifevests to their cabins and find the perfect spot for sailaway.

If you're not completely bored with my post and are still reading, I hope this is helpful to those who haven't been on a ship :)
 
DH and I have never sailed on a ship that did not Muster prior to leaving port.

this has been my experience too, though i have only been on a few cruises. my last two cruises were on RCL and all the crew members i interacted with were very attentive and professional. this captain obviously didnt take his job seriously enough but i think he is in the minority. those poor passengers and their family members who have to suffer due to his negligence.
 
Transcript from Dr. Drew show on HLN:

DR. DREW

Cruise Ship Survivors Recount Horror


Aired January 16, 2012 - 21:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST: Here we go.

Mayhem in the Mediterranean. Thousands of passengers are fending for themselves surrounded by black night, cold water, and no leadership. What went wrong, and what would you do in a crisis no one has planned for? I am speaking to survivors.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/16/ddhln.01.html

Sweet dreams :offtobed:
 
Divers locate 2nd data recorder from Italian cruise ship

"The Italian Coast Guard said Tuesday it has located the second "black box," or data recorder, from the Costa Concordia cruise ship that wrecked off Italy's western coast, killing at least six people."

"Operations were underway to retrieve the recorder, said Warrant Petty Officer Massimo Macaroni of the Italian Coast Guard."

"Information from the device, along with that from another that has already been recovered and is being analyzed by prosecutors, will provide authorities with "a complete picture of how the disaster unfolded," Macaroni said."

"Also Tuesday, authorities will question the cruise ship captain at a closed hearing, his attorney said."

"Francesco Schettino is under arrest and may face charges that include manslaughter, shipwreck, and abandoning a ship when passengers were still on board, according to Italian prosecutor Francesco Verusio."

"Disaster management amid cruise sinking Schettino could face up to 15 years in prison, he said."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/17/world/europe/italy-cruise-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
Michigan couple recalls Italian cruise ship wreck

Fort Gratiot couple was on Costa Concordia that ran aground Saturday


Published On: Jan 16 2012 10:57:24 PM EST Updated On: Jan 16 2012 11:05:58 PM EST

Michigan couple escapes Italian cruise ship wreck
DETROIT -
A Fort Gratiot, Mich., couple was on the Italian cruise ship that ran aground Saturday near Italy's western coast.

Kathy and Steve Ledtke's dream vacation was not supposed to end that way.

"It was complete chaos, and it was every man for himself," Kathy Ledtke said. "Nobody knew where to go. Nobody was in charge"...

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...wreck/-/1719418/8200846/-/2crdlr/-/index.html

Another link to this story: http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/01/17/local-couple-survives-cruise-ship-disaster/
 
The more that I hear/read about the Captain's "stunt", the more :furious: I become about his wanton disregard and disrespect for the passengers, crew, and the ship itself :maddening: jmo
 
Audio: Cruise captain pleaded not to reboard ship

By NICOLE WINFIELD and COLLEEN BARRY, AP
56 minutes ago

ROME — Five more bodies were pulled Tuesday out of the crippled cruise ship off Tuscany, and a shocking audio emerged in which the ship's captain was heard making excuses as the Italian coast guard repeatedly ordered him to return and oversee the ship's evacuation.

Prosecutors have accused Capt. Francesco Schettino of manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his ship before all passengers were evacuated during the grounding of the Costa Concordia cruise ship Friday night.

The death toll nearly doubled to 11 on Tuesday when divers located five more bodies, all of them adults wearing life jackets, in the rear of the ship near an emergency evacuation point, according to Italian Coast Guard Cmdr. Cosimo Nicastro. He said they were thought to have been passengers...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120117/EU.Italy.Cruise.Aground/?cid=hero_media
 
So, Amanda Knox was originally sentenced to 26 years, and yet the good captain only faces up to 15 years in prison??

Eleven confirmed dead, and 24 passengers still unaccounted for...:furious:

This coward deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life :behindbar !
 
Audio: Cruise captain pleaded not to reboard ship

By NICOLE WINFIELD and COLLEEN BARRY, AP
56 minutes ago

ROME — Five more bodies were pulled Tuesday out of the crippled cruise ship off Tuscany, and a shocking audio emerged in which the ship's captain was heard making excuses as the Italian coast guard repeatedly ordered him to return and oversee the ship's evacuation.

Prosecutors have accused Capt. Francesco Schettino of manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his ship before all passengers were evacuated during the grounding of the Costa Concordia cruise ship Friday night.

The death toll nearly doubled to 11 on Tuesday when divers located five more bodies, all of them adults wearing life jackets, in the rear of the ship near an emergency evacuation point, according to Italian Coast Guard Cmdr. Cosimo Nicastro. He said they were thought to have been passengers...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120117/EU.Italy.Cruise.Aground/?cid=hero_media

That really bothers me that so many were found in life jackets. It indicates to me that they weren't killed in the inital crash, they had time to locate and don life jackets and many were later found in public areas. So why didn't some employee usher them to the deck where the life boats were located?

With the number of crew who have been found, the discussions from the survivors talking about the confusion and conflicting orders from crew, I am beginning to think that the problem may have been more than the captain. He was the worst. But I am wondering how much training the crew have had in emergency evacuation?

And where was the 2 nd in command? The captain truly failed from beginning to end. But no one seems to have stepped forward to take his place. And at the point where he abandoned ship you would think that some officer would have stepped in to take his place.
 

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