Jason will be re-tried October 10

[Just the Fax]

http://registerofdeeds.buncombecoun...g/v1viewer.aspx?bimgcycle=true&iimgcycleidx=0

07/27/2011 deed of trust
young, patricia wells
mcintyre, kenneth gerald

buncombe & transylvania counties

 

[happy2binNC]

This photo makes me want to :sick:.

Enjoy your freedom while you can, because come October you're going in the slammer for good.

 

[NCEast]

WRAL just issued a breaking news alert saying JLY's parents have posted bond.

"JUST IN: The parents of Jason Young are at the Wake County magistrate's office to put up a $900,000 secured bond for his release. Young is accused of first-degree murder in the 2006 death of his pregnant wife, Michelle. His trial ended in a mistrial last month, and a new trial date is set for Oct. 10."

I was so hoping this would not happen. However, it may provide him a chance to run. ....which I kind of hope he does. Then in a month or two he is captured in another state, and then he will have even more huge legal problems that will be almost impossible to overcome. I do not like this man.

 

[NCEast]

When was the last time CW himself 1st-chaired a case?



Anything you can tell us (me, anyway), NCEast, will be more that we (I) know. It would be good to know what the talk on this is... Is it as big a deal to them as it is to us? Certainly it must be so. :waiting:

:banghead:

I'm checking on this, waiting for a reply, as I type.

 

[tarheel8600]

I feel like we should make a pool on whether he goes poof.....no?

I hope he does run, is tried in absentia, is found guilty, and is hunted down like the dog he is, is captured, and is personally escorted to Central Prison for the rest of his life.

I, like many others in Brevard, do not want the narcissistic, pathological lying, cold-blooded wife and unborn child killer here. He is very unwelcome, and I hope he knows it.

 

[Just the Fax]

"Narcissistic, pathological lying, cold-blooded wife and unborn child killer"

That pathetic description of JLY is spot on.

Purdy, ain't he?

 

[otto]

If I were in his shoes, I would run.

 

[otto]

He sure looks happy in the photos. Does anyone know how bond works? If he shows up for the trial, is it all settled and the properties essentially back in the hands of the family, or does that not happen until the verdict?

 

[BrownRice]

He sure looks happy in the photos. Does anyone know how bond works? If he shows up for the trial, is it all settled and the properties essentially back in the hands of the family, or does that not happen until the verdict?

My understanding of how the bail/bond system works (when using a bail bondsman) is you are out the 10% automatically ($90k is their fee in this case). The property deed is returned when JLY shows up for trial. If he runs and they don't capture him, all those people lose their property (I'm sure there's more to it, but that's the gist from what I understand). If they paid the court directly (w/o using bb), they would receive the $ back at trial (less court fees).

 

[NCEast]

I'm checking on this, waiting for a reply, as I type.

My contact in the AG's office is on vacation. I hope to hear from her either over the weekend or the first of next week.

 

[terminatrixator]

"Narcissistic, pathological lying, cold-blooded wife and unborn child killer"

That pathetic description of JLY is spot on.

Purdy, ain't he?

Very grim reaper-like. He is definitely not attractive and I hope this last taste of freedom makes it so much harder for him when he's locked away forever.

Hung jury doesn't = innocent.
Not guilty doesn't = innocent

I hope this next jury can understand critical thinking and how to connect the dots. Seem there are too many jury's lately that have a case of the CSI all wrapped up with a smoking bow in 60 minutes fever.

 

[borndem]

I feel like we should make a pool on whether he goes poof.....no?

Fear, I think his cockiness and Narcissism vs. his urge to flee, will win, and he'll stick around. He was so close the first time, and I think he feels that his good defense lawyers will win it this time. (And he could be right.)

Further, I think that we will NOT see him on the witness stand this time. The ADAs were given a free shot at goal, and they blew it. They won't get a chance to do the cross-exam the right way this go 'round. The ADAs have another chance to show his guilt, and if they blow it again, he will laugh and stand up & walk out. And possibly, IMO, kill again since he's still the same person he was in 2008. And he loves his mama's good cookin'.....

I think a lot of the chance for the State to win rides on jury selection, and, as so many of us have agreed, for that jury to understand what "reasonable doubt" means. I think the quote below sums it up nicely and in a few words:

"Circumstantial evidence...is like a rope. And each fact is a strand of that rope. And as the prosecution piles one fact upon another we add strands and we add strength to that rope. If one strand breaks...the rope is not broken. The strength of that rope is barely diminished. Why? Because there are still so many other strands of almost steel-like strength that the rope is still more than strong enough to bind these...defendants to justice. That's what circumstantial evidence is all about."
- Vincent Bugliosi, Outrage: The Five Reasons Why O.J. Simpson Got Away With Murder

Of course, this is all in my humble opinion....

 

[borndem]

I'm checking on this, waiting for a reply, as I type.

Many thanks, NCEast -- and I'm like you, but torn just a bit, in almost hoping that he will skip, and be found. Then, even his family might be done with him. He is such a slimeball (IMO). I do not like him, either. He is arrogant and evil, and that is a very, very dangerous combination. And one we WSers know well. :banghead:

:maddening:

 

[borndem]

Very grim reaper-like. He is definitely not attractive and I hope this last taste of freedom makes it so much harder for him when he's locked away forever.

Hung jury doesn't = innocent.
Not guilty doesn't = innocent

I hope this next jury can understand critical thinking and how to connect the dots. Seem there are too many jury's lately that have a case of the CSI all wrapped up with a smoking bow in 60 minutes fever.

BBM

Well stated, Trixator. This "all or nothing" jury attitude (that's how it seems to me, anyway) is a severe problem for any prosecution to overcome. And I think your theory on it is spot-on.

It's perfectly shown in the Anthony verdict -- a case in point -- they didn't convict on any of the homicide-related charges -- not even neglect.

Black or white -- no gray. On or off. Yes or no. Up or down. Left or right. We do not live in a binary world, other than computer machine language. Will we ever get it?!

 

[tarheel8600]

I hope the next time around, the ADA introduces the email exchanges between JLY and his sister, Kim.

I hope he is asked what he meant in the part of his email statement that said, "His (his lawyer's) only concern is for me and that hopefully there will NEVER be an arrest." I think a grieving husband would have added that he hopes that an arrest of the actual murderer(s) would be forthcoming. Of course, if you are the murderer, this might not be what you would want to write.

I'm sure he will say that he meant that HE would never be arrested in this case, but that is not what he wrote. His version of what he meant could easily be discredited because he never once indicated that he ever hoped the murderer(s) of MY and Rylan would be brought to justice. In fact, he never demanded justice for his murdered family to anyone.

Additionally, I'm sure putting Kim on the stand was discussed, but I'm sure she has been told to either support her brother or stay out of it and keep her mouth shut.

 

[Just the Fax]

Fear, I think his cockiness and Narcissism vs. his urge to flee, will win, and he'll stick around. He was so close the first time, and I think he feels that his good defense lawyers will win it this time. (And he could be right.)

Further, I think that we will NOT see him on the witness stand this time. The ADAs were given a free shot at goal, and they blew it. They won't get a chance to do the cross-exam the right way this go 'round. The ADAs have another chance to show his guilt, and if they blow it again, he will laugh and stand up & walk out. And possibly, IMO, kill again since he's still the same person he was in 2008. And he loves his mama's good cookin'.....

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Of course, this is all in my humble opinion....

I disagree bordem....he has to take the stand again.
How else will the jury know about Michelle "giving the shoes to Goodwill", going to the desk to get a paper and "smoke a cigar" outside? He will have to tell us about propping the room door to explain why no key card was used.
Of course he screwed up by saying he broke off a twig to prop the stairwell exit door. The bush is too far for that to be true. He was stupid by not just saying he used a rock (had his DNA). For his story to be true, the jury must believe the camera was tampered with twice in 12 hours and someone else happened to prop the exit door with a rock.

Hopefully Saacks handles the cross in round 2.

 

[borndem]

If I were in his shoes, I would run.

Maybe -- but not in those size 10 Franklin's!!!!! ython: ...... .:behindbar..... :escape:.....:beamup:..... :back:........ :takeoff:



........ullhair:.......:no:......inocchio:.....:loser:

 

[borndem]

I hope the next time around, the ADA introduces the email exchanges between JLY and his sister, Kim.

I hope he is asked what he meant in the part of his email statement that said, "His (his lawyer's) only concern is for me and that hopefully there will NEVER be an arrest." I think a grieving husband would have added that he hopes that an arrest of the actual murderer(s) would be forthcoming. Of course, if you are the murderer, this might not be what you would want to write.

I'm sure he will say that he meant that HE would never be arrested in this case, but that is not what he wrote. His version of what he meant could easily be discredited because he never once indicated that he ever hoped the murderer(s) of MY and Rylan would be brought to justice. In fact, he never demanded justice for his murdered family to anyone.

Additionally, I'm sure putting Kim on the stand was discussed, but I'm sure she has been told to either support her brother or stay out of it and keep her mouth shut.

BBM
Correct-a-mundo, 'Heel - She has been away from it, baby and all.

But, as we know, subpoenas speak softly and carry a Big Stick. Either somehow just introduce the email, or put her on the stand and have her read the whole darn thing. At least subpoena her & scare her and her mama a tad.

Maybe she's been busy making another little nest for her Wonderful Brother (could this be possible? Hmmmm...)

I wonder if they tried to introduce it the first time, and somehow it got ruled-out? Oh, the opportunities were there, folks, yes they were.... as we all know -- we made a dayam list of 'em.....

Pardon my attitude, folks...

 

[otto]

My understanding of how the bail/bond system works (when using a bail bondsman) is you are out the 10% automatically ($90k is their fee in this case). The property deed is returned when JLY shows up for trial. If he runs and they don't capture him, all those people lose their property (I'm sure there's more to it, but that's the gist from what I understand). If they paid the court directly (w/o using bb), they would receive the $ back at trial (less court fees).

Thanks ... I guess I'm wondering if he could show up for trial, the property would be returned, and then the day before the verdict - if he was worried - he could then flee and the families would not lose their property.

 

[BrownRice]

Thanks ... I guess I'm wondering if he could show up for trial, the property would be returned, and then the day before the verdict - if he was worried - he could then flee and the families would not lose their property.

He is considered out on bond during the entire trial (he has to show up every day). So if he skips town, even on the last day of trial, they lose the property. With the last trial, the 8-4 for acquittal was pretty surprising. I have to assume he didn't expect it either, so he may go into this pretty cocky with no reason to run.