Found Deceased Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #3

[kittythehare]

Well if you can assure me that the Spanish Police did all those checks then I guess they must have done

It's not rocket science.
The first thing they would have done was to check their identities.
That is standard operating procedure.

 

[su5ie]

Interesting read on Somalian names and why the guy from Airbnb may use two different ones I've added link to website further down on chat

 

[OwnedByALabrador]

If the two men and the Airbnb they rented are not relevant, why were the Spanish police there for two hours searching the place this week?

 

[kittythehare]

If the two men and the Airbnb they rented are not relevant, why were the Spanish police there for two hours searching the place this week?

We don't know and we won't know unless they tell us.

 

[OwnedByALabrador]

We don't know and we won't know unless they tell us.

My point being that they clearly are of interest otherwise the police would not have bothered going there and searching.

 

[su5ie]

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Link to website

 

[OwnedByALabrador]

From today's Daily Mail:

MailOnline identified the man who took Jay back to Casa Abuela Tina as convicted drug smuggler Ayub Qassim, who insisted that Jay left the holiday rental alive.

But Jay's friends told us and the police that he went back to Masca with two men - so who was the other? Ayub refused to tell us without speaking to his lawyer.

Although both men have been spoken to by Spanish police and deemed 'irrelevant', why were they allowed to leave Tenerife without further questioning as they were the last people to have spent significant time with him on June 17, the day he disappeared?

 

[Ruthbullock]

Qassim said he knew Jay through friends. If one of those friends is Lucy I don’t believe for a second she wouldn’t have his number/snap/insta. My sons around that age swap details with everyone.

Perhaps that’s how she could locate them quickly

JMO

Why go and locate them then, if she had their number why post asking for a lift on Facebook and then go and see them? It would make more sense to ring,ping or message them. Still strikes me as odd her priority was to speak to the men and not walk to where he last had a phone ping from and said he was lost.

 

[kittythehare]

My point being that they clearly are of interest otherwise the police would not have bothered going there and searching.

Like I said, unless there is a verified statement from the police or MSM, I don't make up stories outside of the known narrative.
That is because this is a public forum and these are real people.

I have only one theory and had it from the outset.
I think the most likely scenario short of a fall or heatstroke or anything he did himself, is a RTA.. cars were probably speeding at that quiet hour of the morning and whereas he stepped off the road while speaking with his friends he may well have continued the journey on the road.

If there is any criminal aspect to this it is that whoever was driving my imaginary vehicle then moved his body.

No drugs, mafia, crime files or anything ..

What I couldn't locate was cameras on that stretch of road.

 

[touch]

So do you normally book accomodation under a false name? I find that suspicious but that is my opinion only.

You can use your Facebook account to register and login to AirBnB. If he has a different name on Facebook, is that the name which would show up on the booking?

 

[JennieM]

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[CoverMeCagney]

Why is one persons preferred theory any more viable or discussable than anyone else’s theory?

I don’t think the police have suggested criminal involvement at any point - they haven’t mentioned drugs, ransoms, watches, kidnapping or bodies being hidden after a road accident.

[Mod snip}

 

[JennieM]

Why go and locate them then, if she had their number why post asking for a lift on Facebook and then go and see them? It would make more sense to ring,ping or message them. Still strikes me as odd her priority was to speak to the men and not walk to where he last had a phone ping from and said he was lost.

Very good point

 

[wonderingwanderer]

It's amazed me from the start how it was the airbnb owner who saw him walking along the road that morning.
Out of everyone else who lives around there, it had to be someone who was connected to the airbnb, not that it matters. It's just a coincidence. But what if it isn't and she knows about the drugs too, if that's why they came there.

 

[Skigh]

Why is one persons preferred theory any more viable or discussable than anyone else’s theory?

I don’t think the police have suggested criminal involvement at any point - they haven’t mentioned drugs, kidnapping or bodies being hidden after a road accident.

We’re allowed not to agree. There is no hierarchy here of whose ideas are more important. There is an ignore button. Let’s not get the thread closed.

I totally agree with you. All theories are equally valid and worthy of discussion .

 

[OwnedByALabrador]

It's amazed me from the start how it was the airbnb owner who saw him walking along the road that morning.
Out of everyone else who lives around there, it had to be someone who was connected to the airbnb, not that it matters. It's just a coincidence. But what if it isn't and she knows about the drugs too, if that's why they came there.

Great point.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"We should stress that the police have deemed this gentleman and another who hasn't yet been identified as irrelevant to the case.

"But he told my colleague that Jay Slater arrived at the house alive and he left the house alive. I can tell you, the other day when I went there, the police were back at that house.

"They left it as just as I arrived, and they were taking forensic-style dust covers off their shoes. And I approached the police officer and I asked him if he could tell me what he'd been doing and whether it was connected to the investigation.

"He said it was, but he couldn't tell me anything else because it was covered by judicial secrecy."

Jay Slater: Spanish police SWITCH focus as forensics probe Airbnb where missing teen stayed

The hunt for the missing teenager came to an end over the weekend

www.gbnews.com

 

[Alyce]

Why is one persons preferred theory any more viable or discussable than anyone else’s theory?

I don’t think the police have suggested criminal involvement at any point - they haven’t mentioned drugs, kidnapping or bodies being hidden after a road accident.

We’re allowed not to agree. There is no hierarchy here of whose ideas are more important. There is an ignore button. Let’s not get the thread closed.

Absolutely this. Different viewpoints generate constructive discussion and excellent sleuthing.
Great to have input from so many sources.

And for everything else, there's the ignore button. Works a treat.

 

[kittythehare]

Why is one persons preferred theory any more viable or discussable than anyone else’s theory?

I don’t think the police have suggested criminal involvement at any point - they haven’t mentioned drugs, ransoms, watches, kidnapping or bodies being hidden after a road accident.

We’re allowed not to agree. There is no hierarchy here of whose ideas are more important. There is an ignore button. Let’s not get the thread closed.

No they have not.
There is a difference between a theory about an anonymous imaginary driver and known named people.

 

[suzyjackson]

The general consensus seems to be that he stole the watch from the two men at the AirBnB, after they stole it from somebody else.

Is that what most people think? Most people will only know what they see in MSM and that would be that the watch, if it exists, was stolen from a nameless Eastern European.