Spain Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #3

[jackal67]

Allegedly, news outlets are reporting that there was a Snapchat of Jay showing the Rolex while being in the car to the airbnb

"During the hour-long drive, Mark claims Jay posted a Snapchat saying he had taken a Rolex worth £12,000 from an unknown person."

Jay Slater 'fled Airbnb feeling SCARED after admitting stealing £12k Rolex'

JAY Slater left the Airbnb he went to with two men feeling “scared” after admitting to stealing a £12,000 Rolex, an investigator claims. Former detective Mark Williams-Thomas said the 1…

www.thesun.co.uk

So how come this information wasnt given at the start when Jay first went missing?? Seems ridiculous JMO

 

[jackal67]

Are they assuming the Rolex stolen was from one of the men staying in the air bnb?

If this is true, my wondering is this why he didn’t use the road to walk back to his hotel to avoid being seen? Was he afraid the men would wake up and notice the watch was stolen and come looking for him?

I think someone outside the club had his watch stolen and a fight erupted . Read it belonged to an eastern european male not one of the 2 men

 

[jackal67]

Allegedly, news outlets are reporting that there was a Snapchat of Jay showing the Rolex while being in the car to the airbnb

"During the hour-long drive, Mark claims Jay posted a Snapchat saying he had taken a Rolex worth £12,000 from an unknown person."

Jay Slater 'fled Airbnb feeling SCARED after admitting stealing £12k Rolex'

JAY Slater left the Airbnb he went to with two men feeling “scared” after admitting to stealing a £12,000 Rolex, an investigator claims. Former detective Mark Williams-Thomas said the 1…

www.thesun.co.uk

Who did Jay send the snapchat to and why was it not mentioned earlier when he first went missing?

 

[BrianJohnson]

The newspapers describe Johnny Vegas and his mate as being ‘associates’ of Lucy as opposed to ‘friends’, that would subtly suggest that those 2 guys were involved in the drugs trade and she was a client of theirs (that is not judging her, millions of young take drugs), but the more stuff comes out the more I suspect these 2 guys know more about Jay disappearing than they have let on

 

[Sara11272]

A fight with a crowd watching is a good cover for pickpocket, watch thieves. The fight could even for exactly that purpose, if the thieves are part of a ring.

(Can you tell I've been the victim of this at one point?!)

jmo

“You cause a diversion by starting a fight, the two of us will nab the watch and we’ll split the profits a third each’

?

But if they were all in on the stealing, who was buying?

 

[jackal67]

There's a post further up the thread saying that the AirBnB booking was made 90 mins before arrival. Clearly the 2 men in the AirBnB were already on the island before booking it. Could they have been staying in the hotel with the matching blanket?
Is anyone really brave enough to fly to Tenerife without accommodation pre-booked? Or did they already have accommodation booked? Why would they need to the AirBnB if so?

*My opinions only. I dont know any details of what their travel plans or what they had actually booked

Thought they arrived in Tenerife on the day it was booked , 3 days friday to monday?

 

[jackal67]

The newspapers describe Johnny Vegas and his mate as being ‘associates’ of Lucy as opposed to ‘friends’, that would subtly suggest that those 2 guys were involved in the drugs trade and she was a client of theirs (that is not judging her, millions of young take drugs), but the more stuff comes out the more I suspect these 2 guys know more about Jay disappearing than they have let on

I think she worked for them rather than her being a customer. They were there to supply and collect only MOO

 

[JosieJo]

The Eastern European guy may well not have reported the watch as stolen to police because he himself could be involved in organised crime/bought the watch with laundered money or something so didn’t want the police to investigate the watch

So we have to believe

A) he got caught up in stealing a watch
B) The person he "happened" to steal a watch from was in a "crime gang" himself?
C) Said person managed to find out within 2 hours who stole it and that they were an hour a way in a very unlikely location?

Lot of unlikely possibilities imo
Not impossible...but occams razor is still telling me he likely died in the terrain...at the moment anyway

 

[jackal67]

So according to that article he stole the watch during the festival, not these 2 men from the air bnb. It wouldn’t make sense for him to steal the Rolex from the same men he was going back to the bnb with, whilst also making Snapchat videos in the car with them..

I honestly don’t think this has anything to do with his disappearance and I still believe he had an accident during his walk back. This is just my opinion.

Hopefully the true facts will come out eventually whatever the reason MOO

 

[BrianJohnson]

I think she worked for them rather than her being a customer. They were there to supply and collect only MOO

I don’t think Jay was murdered, but I think he was escaping from something and wanted out of the area quickly, got into terrain he not cut out for and paid the ultimate price, something went on at that villa he wanted out of

 

[Nell91]

I'm still leaning towards occams razor, but this whole case is just so intricately bizarre I really don't know what to think..

 

[OwnedByALabrador]

I don’t think Jay was murdered, but I think he was escaping from something and wanted out of the area quickly, got into terrain he not cut out for and paid the ultimate price, something went on at that villa he wanted out of

I agree, this seems to make the most sense.

 

[suzyjackson]

So how come this information wasnt given at the start when Jay first went missing?? Seems ridiculous JMO

We don't know that it wasn't. Just because we don't know doesn't mean the police don't

 

[jackal67]

I thought people don't wear watches these days?

Was it a diving watch? Or some such sports watch?

Theft of valuable watches and jewelry is a big thing in holiday hot spots. Usually done by criminal gangs. I saw a documentary recently about it being a big problem in Ibiza currently.

 

[jackal67]

If it was worth that much, sounds like just for looks

Status symbol for some

 

[suzyjackson]

people still thinking he ‘got lost’ then?

Yes, I still think that's the most likely thing to have happened. Obviously we have a lot more information now that couldn't have been predicted in the early days but lots of weird and wonderful carrying ons don't preclude a mundane final outcome

I'd like to say we'll see but I'm not sure that we will anytime soon

 

[Inthedetails]

Who did Jay send the snapchat to and why was it not mentioned earlier when he first went missing?

Because the group doesn't want to get Jay into trouble (or themselves into trouble). That would be my guess as why it was, apparently, not immediately reported.

jmo

 

[suzyjackson]

The newspapers describe Johnny Vegas and his mate as being ‘associates’ of Lucy as opposed to ‘friends’, that would subtly suggest that those 2 guys were involved in the drugs trade and she was a client of theirs (that is not judging her, millions of young take drugs), but the more stuff comes out the more I suspect these 2 guys know more about Jay disappearing than they have let on

"Associates" being a well known police euphamism

 

[CoverMeCagney]

So we have to believe

A) he got caught up in stealing a watch
B) The person he "happened" to steal a watch from was in a "crime gang" himself?
C) Said person managed to find out within 2 hours who stole it and that they were an hour a way in a very unlikely location?

Lot of unlikely possibilities imo
Not impossible...but occams razor is still telling me he likely died in the terrain...at the moment anyway

All of those things can have happened, and more, and Jay still might have died just trying to take a short cut home. I suspect there’s plenty of truth in the social media rumours about his friends, yet it’s perfectly possible none of it is relevant to his disappearance.

(I’d love to know what’s in his bag though - that might tie a few loose ends up!)

 

[jackal67]

I would think, the alleged theft of a watch wouldn't involve the two men as it has been said they're not implicated in any impropriety regarding Jay's disappearance.

But Police would not have known about the watch theft at the time they spoke to the 2 men which was very early on when Jay first went missing?