"Jersey" and MW

[Mountain_Kat]

Maybe the dissed husband of the drinking neighbor?

I wondered about that myself, Middle. But then, I couldn't see any reason to insert this man into the story. No obvious link, I mean. I still say it was JI.

JMO

 

[tink92]

Ok.Someone help me out here LOL...this is what I gather so far please correct me if any of this is wrong.


A witness came forward straight away to say he saw a man in a white t shirt bald and slender carrying a baby into a back yard at 12.15ish.

This backyard is the same backyard that "jersey" was at earlier that day as per the lady who lives there and he had been asked to return to turn off sprinklers.

This same backyard leads to the apartments where there was dumpster fire reported a couple of hours later.

The dumpster fire road leads to the road that a camera caught an image of "white t shirt person" walking past garage. what time was this?

Oh and the cell phone that was stolen made a call to "jerseys" ex earlier that night.

And "jersey" is bald and slender and was defo in the area WEARING A WHITE TEE that day! as per witmesses that day.:snowball:



Is this all for real????

if so....I'll stick my neck out here and say it was "jersey". Seems like a slam dunk to me but i don't know how true thwe above is??

 

[hambirg]

If it is the one I am thinking of it's from Vinelink, there is a photo option for him, click it and it will pop up. He has hair but it is shorter than in any of his other photos.

Yeah, I am confused by JT's mugshots.

The first with his very long hair is from New Jersey.

But then on Vinelink there is one with shoulder length hair associated with a 02/04/2011 date. In the one associated with his current incarceration, he has a typical, short, man's haircut. Is this his booking photo from 10/14? Could it be a photo from some other time he was picked up? I'm not sure how that works.

TIA

 

[Pensfan]

I think you are right on. I am starting to believe that DB did not have a working cell phone that night.

I can picture DB, GSB, and SB sitting on the steps drinking wine. Jersey strolls by the house and knows one or more of the porch sitters. DB and Jersey decide to get back in touch later on, and that is why DB writes down MW's communal phone number on her hand.

If DB had a working phone, she would have dialed in into her contacts, or DB would have given Jersey her phone number to get back with her later.

Sleuthers? Can you help me punch holes in my own theory?:waitasec:

Red by me
Two-three days ago, it was released that one of Deb's phones called Megan's phone on the night that Lisa disappeared.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I think you are right on. I am starting to believe that DB did not have a working cell phone that night.

I can picture DB, GSB, and SB sitting on the steps drinking wine. Jersey strolls by the house and knows one or more of the porch sitters. DB and Jersey decide to get back in touch later on, and that is why DB writes down MW's communal phone number on her hand.

If DB had a working phone, she would have dialed in into her contacts, or DB would have given Jersey her phone number to get back with her later.

Sleuthers? Can you help me punch holes in my own theory?:waitasec:

The 8:30 pm call to MW's phone came from one of the "stolen phones". The very phones DB and JI claim were restricted. I'd say that's a huge gaping hole in the " non-working phone" theory.

JMO

 

[scmom]

https://web.mo.gov/doc/offSearchWeb/searchOffender.do

Looks like he is being held closer to downtown Kansas City, Missouri, rather than up north in Clay County. This is kind of confusing because it says the information is correct as of 10/31/2011, but it shows photos of him from 2009, and says his sentence was to be 4 years. I wonder if they might have sent him back to the place he was released from, maybe because his continued criminal activity was a parole violation?

I still say he had something to do with it; otherwise, why $10,000 bond for vehicle tampering? His bond wasn't that high for burglary. I think they have something on him that they are not saying. If he was around the area all the time, maybe Deborah Bradley even knew him. Maybe he was in the house drinking wine with them that night. JMO.

I think his bond amount could be the result of his prior criminal history. We recently caught (on a stealth cam) someone stealing things from our garage. He is charged with two counts of second-degree burglary and two counts of petit larceny; his bond is set at $30,0000.00. He was on two years probation and he has a criminal history going back to 1993. The charges that got him on probation were for 3rd or subsequent offenses.

 

[LisaB]

Which makes NO sense because the only reason they would be searching Craiglist at all would have been to look for THAT number offering perhaps cell phones for sale.....in which case they HAD TO ALREADY KNOW AND HAVE THE NUMBER. There was no reason for the FBI or anyone to randomly think a GPS ad would be connected to this case......only that they were watching for that NUMBER to appear with any ad or look for any ad referencing cell phones for sale.

jmo

Assumed they either got the number when they got the cell phone records, or off Deb's hand. They typed it into Google to see who it was and found it was a "batphone" located in the general goegraphic area. The hit on Craigslist was a "bonus" and I doubt they were expecting it when they ran the search.

 

[hollyblue]

Maybe the dissed husband of the drinking neighbor?

Not saying he's a good POI, but there's the hubby (and wife) who saw the balding man carrying the diapered baby too. That doesn't want to go on camera.

 

[nursebeeme]

gentle reminder that no rumors are to be brought over to websleuths from other sites. thanks

 

[mistermissy]

Mountain Kat and Pensfan: Mea Culpa. I need more coffee! I did not write what I meant to! I edited my post to read:

I think you are right on. I am starting to believe that DB did have a working cell phone that night.

I can picture DB, GSB, and SB sitting on the steps drinking wine. Jersey strolls by the house and knows one or more of the porch sitters. DB and Jersey decide to get back in touch later on, and that is why DB writes down MW's communal phone number on her hand.

Instead of dialing the number into her contacts on her phone, where JI might see it, DB writes it on her hand to call the MW communal phone later on that night (8-8:30)

Would also love to know if there is a link between the GPS advertised by MW on craigslist, and the car prowl reported by DB.

Sleuthers? Can you help me punch holes in my own theory?

Thank you for keeping me straight!

 

[hollyblue]

I wondered about that myself, Middle. But then, I couldn't see any reason to insert this man into the story. No obvious link, I mean. I still say it was JI.

JMO

Can't remember where I just read or heard it, but MSM is saying JI was seen on surveillance video for the whole night at work. So unless he took the phones with him...or someone took them/one of to him, how could he make the call?

 

[twall]

Yeah, I am confused by JT's mugshots.

The first with his very long hair is from New Jersey.

But then on Vinelink there is one with shoulder length hair associated with a 02/04/2011 date. In the one associated with his current incarceration, he has a typical, short, man's haircut. Is this his booking photo from 10/14? Could it be a photo from some other time he was picked up? I'm not sure how that works.

TIA

I don't know. I'm not going to pin down a date for the mug shots because I simply do not know how it works either. Sorry! I have seen 3, long hair from NJ DOC, longish hair but shorter than NJ hair from MO DOC and short hair from Clay Co. jail on Vinelink.

And the video from yesterday's court appearance-shaved head.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Can't remember where I just read or heard it, but MSM is saying JI was seen on surveillance video for the whole night at work. So unless he took the phones with him...or someone took them/one of to him, how could he make the call?

I would need a msm link before I'd be sold on that fact, Holly.

But I never said anything about JI making the 8:30 pm call. :waitasec:

 

[frankie069]

Well this puts it all into perspective.. I love reading this, its like a bad novel.. Reading the lies and contradictions it amazing to me..

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/1...-uncle-in-house-megan-dated-jersey/#more-8327

These arent rumors but just an order of the way things were told to LE and the media. I dont want the mods getting mad at me here.

 

[raeann]

Assumed they either got the number when they got the cell phone records, or off Deb's hand. They typed it into Google to see who it was and found it was a "batphone" located in the general goegraphic area. The hit on Craigslist was a "bonus" and I doubt they were expecting it when they ran the search.

That still doesn't explain why they wouldn't just CALL the number and check it out.....just make up a reason to be calling like "I got a missed call from this number and was wondering what you wanted" kind of thing. AND.....once they had a number, if they KNEW it was in the local area through some means of tracking.....then they also knew a LOT more than that about the phone/person. I still don't get why everyone is believing EVERYTHING that this MW said......we KNOW SHE LIED about only being in the neighborhood once or twice "walking through". Witnesses have said she was there OFTEN and hung out at houses and they knew her name, age, and had given her rides before! Everything that she reported must be taken as HIGHLY suspect as to its accuracy.

jmo

 

[twall]

The 8:30 pm call to MW's phone came from one of the "stolen phones". The very phones DB and JI claim were restricted. I'd say that's a huge gaping hole in the " non-working phone" theory.

JMO

One of the stolen phones was a borrowed one from a relative of DB's to replace her broken one. Was it restricted, too?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

One of the stolen phones was a borrowed one from a relative of DB's to replace her broken one. Was it restricted, too?

No idea. But I do know that DB, when shown cell phone pings, stated that wasn't possible because the phones were restricted. Now, if one of the phones wasn't restricted, why would she say the pings weren't possible? :waitasec:

I have no answer to that question.

 

[21merc7]

Just a thought if the phone call is real, maybe the phones were to become restricted that day. Maybe JI and DB thought they were already on "restricted status" but the phones did not really go on that status until X time that night. I don't know.

 

[cityslick]

No idea. But I do know that DB, when shown cell phone pings, stated that wasn't possible because the phones were restricted. Now, if one of the phones wasn't restricted, why would she say the pings weren't possible? :waitasec:

I have no answer to that question.

I've said this before, but I can entertain the possibility (however slight) that DB was under the impression that the phones were restricted. This obviously would mean that DB didn't make that call though.

 

[cityslick]

Just a thought if the phone call is real, maybe the phones were to become restricted that day. Maybe JI and DB thought they were already on "restricted status" but the phones did not really go on that status until X time that night. I don't know.

A possibility, lends itself to the 'thought they really were restricted' theory.