But were you intimate with someone at that time?? Did they know you were pregnant? That's my point. Big clothes are one thing, but unless Casey liked it in the dark, which I very seriously doubt, somebody wasn't very observant!
consider the source. people who point fingers sometimes are trying to hide their own truth.-ya know?IIRC - they had a card that Jesse had sent to Caylee for her birthday or something. It talked about how much he loved her, etc. The A's, in their typical fashion, were going to try to construe that as NASTY, SICK, PERVERTED. That he had a sick obsession with Caylee...and that's why Casey broke off the engagement. A perfect patsy, until JG and family lawyered up and came back with guns blazing.
But George on the other hand, he was easy to construe as NASTY, SICK, PERVERTED because he let them. Willingly.
Lee, who is all probability, seems to be actually NASTY, SICK, PERVERTED, but he quickly put that to rest when he showed up at JB's office after finding out from his parents where they were going with the defense.
This is the interview on 7-7. There was another interview on 7-8.
Last night on Dr. Drew Jesse said he had to pry the information about Lee out of Casey. He said Lee was very stand offish, didn't talk to him and scowled at him. He said he questioned ICA about that and why Lee was not engaging with Caylee and she kept saying she didn't want to talk about it and Jesse finally made her tell him.
I don't ever remember hearing this story with all this detail. I always thought ICA just kind of told Jesse about Lee groping her probably for attention or sympathy, it comes across a little different with him saying he was questioning her about Lee to begin with because he was acting strangely. So I'm curious, did I miss something before when Jesse told this story or he is just adding the detail now?
Dr. Drew only interviewed Jesse on 7/7/11, he did not interview Jesse on the 7/8/11. Jesse was on Dateline on 7/8/11.
Here is the link to the WS thread to Datelines show with Jesse Grund on 7/8/1:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143994
I have not watched that show, but I probably will tomorrow.
Jesse said ICA didn't like Lee being around "the baby" Caylee and he had to drag it out of her FWIW.
I watched Dr. Drew last night and Jesse was on it - maybe it was a partial repeat of the interview of 7-7.
*scary thought*:
What if she's got jg bamboozled again and THAT'S where she's going after jail?
Omg right?
I've got to wonder. She's got no money in her pocket, for rent/dp on a new place or hotel or anything. I can't imagine she's just going to sleep on a park bench. Shes got to have someone lined up..... predatory women always do.
Wish I could see this interview.
I should probably go to bed anyway. Lol
IIRC he had needed space because she got to clingy?
She wanted to talk and he was "busy"
so she txt it to him.
Why did Jesse choose now to elaborate on his original story, saying that he had to drag info from Casey and that she said Lee had tried to have sex with her, instead of that she woke up to find him hovering over her? That is a big change from his original story, isn't it?
Yes but CA would not let KC & LA in bedroom with door shut. I believe CA just flat did not want JG at house at all.It was JG and KC that CA would not let the two in the bedroom. It's in GA's depo. CA and GA came home one night and found KC and JG lying on her bed with Caylee. Big fight, GA got mad and CA told GA to leave she would handle it.
Yes but CA would not let KC & LA in bedroom with door shut. I believe CA just flat did not want JG at house at all.
Here is a transcript from Dr. interviewing Jesse Grund on Thursday, 7/7/11:
PINSKY (on-camera): I`ve been saying all along that we`re just trying to understand Casey Anthony and what happened here. So, I talked to a gentleman who was once engaged to Casey. His name is Jesse Grund. I spoke with Jesse and his father just after she was found not guilty of murder. Both tell a fascinating story that will take us inside the mind of Casey Anthony. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
PINSKY: What do you think happened? Can you say?
JESSE GRUND, CASEY`S EX-FIANCE: Obviously, Casey was the last person to see Caylee alive.
PINSKY: Yes.
JESSE GRUND: Obviously, the evidence points to the fact that she took her body and put it somewhere in the woods. That`s what the evidence tells me.
PINSKY: OK. And, Richard, you wanted to ring in a little bit here, too. This is your chance. Please. Your thoughts?
RICHARD GRUND, SON WAS ENGAGED TO CASEY ANTHONY: I will say this about Casey. Everybody has painted her out to be a monster. Casey is broken. It`s obvious that there`s something wrong, but I will tell you this. When she was in our house three, four, or five days a week for over 10 months, she was fun to have around. She`s (INAUDIBLE) with us. She`d do family devotions with us. She`d watch TV with us.
When she gave you a hug, she`d tuck in under your armpit, and it was the kind of hug that said protect me. And I can see why everybody falls in love with Casey, but the more you`re around her, the more you begin to see a pattern of exaggeration of things not lining up, and you kind of just slough it off. She`s immature, she`s young.
Obviously, there`s some kind of a self-worth issue because she needs to fit in badly. I`ve listened to three years of the lynch mod mentality, she`s a monster, she`s a monster. She`s not. She`s a person and there`s something wrong. And somebody didn`t love her enough to do something about it.
Link to remainder of interview at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/07/ddhln.01.html