JLM: Morgan Harrington/Fairfax Rape Victim - *Forensic Link* to MH #2

[ksj3]

Foxfire just put the link up Momn.

That is when the composite sketch was done by the victim in the 2005 rape and is a dead ringer for JM. IMO

This was hashed out a little while ago, too.

Here's the thing:

There is a DNA link between MH and Fairfax.

There is a forensic link between JM and MH (which some MSM outlets have said is DNA). "Last week, the arrest of Jesse L. Matthew Jr., 32, of Charlottesville, Va., provided a significant break in this case (referring to MH) with a new forensic link for state police investigators to pursue.” http://www.c-ville.com/state-police...-matthew-morgan-harrington-case/#.VDcubvldWSo

There has not been released by LE yet anything to state that there is any link between JM and Fairfax. One can conclude there must be, but perhaps he is a third party involved in MH and therefore not the Fairfax perp. Highly unlikely, and I suspect we'll soon know definitively, but possible enough we shouldn't be stating things as fact that might not be true and haven't yet been confirmed by LE.

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

I can only reply with what I recall, as a local. I recall there was speculation that one explanation was that perhaps she got in a cab, as she was looking for a way to get home. Another was that she hitchhiked. Another was that she was abducted (of course no one thought abducted by a cab driver).

A Google search of news reports at the time would provide that information, however.

The information released today gives the name of a cab driver who claims that when he was questioned, the investigator told him specifically that MH was seen getting into a cab.

http://wtvr.com/2014/10/09/exclusiv...taxi-driver-night-morgan-harrington-vanished/

This is new information in the MH case.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think the general point that some are making is that no, none of us here know exact DNA specifics or what "forensic evidence" is necessarily meaning right now (only LE knows), but that there is a strong likelihood there is a DNA connection of JM with respect to the HG case that matched him to DNA in CODIS. Which was put into the system back in '05 and matched in '09. The transitive property if you will. Excellent quick recap by Foxfire above IMO.

At least this is my opinion about the DNA links...

Right, LE had entered the DNA profile of the 2005 rapist and Morgan's murderer into the data bank but it JMs DNA profile wasn't in CODIS but when they obtained a SW of his car and apartment they obtained his DNA profile and from that they know it matches both the person who raped the victim in 2005 and murdered Morgan in 2009.

 

[cluciano63]

That can be a challenge, in both legal and community relations terms. And Longo encountered problems along those lines earlier in his tenure in C'ville.

"...The serial rapist case brought Longo some of the most strident criticism he has faced in his time in Charlottesville. As police hunted for the man responsible for a string of rapes in the area, city police were accused of profiling and harassment for asking black men to submit mouth swabs for DNA testing.
At the time, police were asking black men for samples if they were reported to resemble a composite sketch of the rapist."

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/l...cle_c1ee131c-c4b3-54ab-b80d-c67cbbdb2766.html

Yes I know but if they asked all of the taxi drivers from that night, it would not be profiling. I know they would not have to submit but somehow, they should have been asked, wonder if they were.

 

[SolVol]

With the initial MH investigation they did not have DNA until AFTER MH's body was found. Then, they must not have gone back and asked for DNA from every cab driver.

Perhaps by then JLM was not driving a cab any more. His record as a cabbie was checkered (no pun intended) by his behavior with females. When did he last drive a cab?

Why didn't the cab company alert law enforcement because of complaints by females about JLM's behavior? Were there were complaints before the MH abduction?

Was the owner of the cab company related to JLM?

See, it's complicated.

 

[MJPeony]

Right, LE had entered the DNA profile of the 2005 rapist and Morgan's murderer into the data bank but it JMs DNA profile wasn't in CODIS but when they obtained a SW of his car and apartment they obtained his DNA profile and from that they know it matches both the person who raped the victim in 2005 and murdered Morgan in 2009.

That is exactly what I think.

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

Why?

Even the Harringtons know that Morgan's case was a hard one to solve because of the DNA profile not being in any data bank.
JM probably gave off no bad vibes when questioned. He seems to be a great manipulator anyway.

They had no probable cause back then to even search his vehicle or they certainly would have done so.

It would seem that if LE had released the information that MH was seen getting into a cab, there would have been a lot more scrutinizing of the activities of the 20 cab drivers who were on duty that night. If people would have known that information, they may have had heightened awareness of related activities.

 

[ksj3]

Why didn't the cab company alert law enforcement because of complaints by females about JLM's behavior? Were there were complaints before the MH abduction?

Was the owner of the cab company related to JLM?

Were there complaints by females passengers? My recollection is that there were complaints from his boss about him offering free rides to female passengers, and that led to his ultimately not working there (which would have been 2009 or 2010 - his taxi license expired 12/2010).

 

[Meemaw12]

CBS 6 WTVR Richmond ‏@CBS6 30m30 minutes ago
Catch @lfrenchnews on @CNN @AC360 at 8:15. She'll update Anderson Cooper on new developments in #JesseMatthew & #MorganHarrington case.

The reporter L French just said on Anderson Cooper, JM had access to the cab-which is a light brown van cab, 24/7. That he was able to turn off the radio system on the cab. You can't do that now. He could drive that cab without it being documented.

She talks about co workers saying he changed after the sketch came out, we have read that other places.

http://www.cnn.com/go/?sessionToken=r1FqsPkPR8rDtq1ycDGUG5gqJ

 

[ksj3]

It would seem that if LE had released the information that MH was seen getting into a cab, there would have been a lot more scrutinizing of the activities of the 20 cab drivers who were on duty that night. If people would have known that information, they may have had heightened awareness of related activities.

This guy might be making this up, or thinking he remembers hearing that...who knows. That was five years ago, and for sure he would have leaked it to all of his friends so word would have gotten out.

 

[Meemaw12]

I think the key to this cab was the fact it was a VAN, lite brown in color. I read somewhere someone saw MH getting into a VAN. Can't remember where but it was today.
It was a witness that came forward back when she went missing.

 

[TheBunk]

If they've had the car for two weeks I would have to think that they already know if it contained any evidence of the MH murder and/or any other cases.

I'm curious about the timing of this leak. The timing of leaks in this case makes me feel like they might be deliberately timed, whether to keep the case from fading off the front pages or other reasons I'm not sure. I always assumed the original MH leaks were to quiet the growing push back against keeping JLM detained before that got out.

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

This guy might be making this up, or thinking he remembers hearing that...who knows. That was five years ago, and for sure he would have leaked it to all of his friends so word would have gotten out.

Maybe so, but it is being sensationalized as somewhat of a missing link in tying JM to her murder.

 

[Foxfire]

It would seem that if LE had released the information that MH was seen getting into a cab, there would have been a lot more scrutinizing of the activities of the 20 cab drivers who were on duty that night. If people would have known that information, they may have had heightened awareness of related activities.

Absolutely Evie Ivy Over.. This is what is meant by the quote; "Silence is the predator's most lethal weapon".. When info is not shared between law enforcement agencies and the public via MSM/internet social sites, more innocent victims lives are lost due to mounting cold cases. An aware citizenry is a very valuable investigative resource to squander..

 

[Bonacker]

These photos show JM -- with short, new-growing dredlocks --- driving a minivan taxi in April 2010. But this minivan is silver (unless the silvery color is an illusion because the light is hitting it strangely).

http://www.nbc29.com/story/26669644/past-encounters-with-jesse-matthew-remembered

If the newly found van cab JM used to drive is indeed "light brown," then it suggest that one was "abandoned" in the six months between October 2009 (when MH was murdered) and April 2010 (when the pix above were taken).

 

[trixandhoney]

Anyone else think it's strange that the recent MH/JM cab info isn't on Parker's FB page or the Help
Find Hannah Graham page?

 

[LG3]

Yeah, if it was a fact that MH was last seen getting into a cab, you would think there would've been a warning to the public by LE! Geez, to think of how many cabs I've been in in Charlottesville since 2009. I would hope to God LE wouldn't keep that under their hat, knowing how many drunk and vulnerable women take cabs thinking they're doing the right thing by not driving and getting a safe ride home.

 

[Meemaw12]

The Harrington's are going to have a presser Oct 17th on the bridge where Morgan went missing.

IMO someone in LE is telling the Harrington's of findings in this case in relation to Morgan . The Harrington's have waited long enough and when something of importance is told to them regarding their daughter, they leak it. Then LE confirms it without going into detail.

I will say this, if it were my daughter and I found out JM is connected I would be standing on that bridge and screaming my lungs out with anything I knew. Course the Harrington's are not me, they are graceful and patiently waiting for justice.

 

[Justice101]

You know, back in 2009, we were theorizing that Morgan would have only gotten into a security vehicle, police car, cab or some other vehicle that gave some sense of security. I sure hope they can get some DNA evidence in that car!

 

[2Hope4]

Anyone else remember the photo of JLM with 3 girls? He was sitting in a van, and one girl was in the passenger seat, the others standing outside the van??? I'm wondering if same one!!!