Lossmitpro,
For the record, I might sound passionate in writing, but I'm not the least bit upset.
I'm just a logic person. I like a good argument. I welcome a challenge.
And I do like playing devil's advocate. It does help uncover things sometimes.
If you really look at what I've provided, it is rather dispassionate.
I do provide line by line proof to support what I'm saying --- links and reference numbers included.
Oh, I didn't mean to point anyone out, and had no one person in mind -- sorry if I came across that way. Just mostly feeling the general difficulty of making heads or tails of this, while getting heard, but also not possibly putting a scarlet letter on someone who will likely turn out to be totally uninvolved with planning/executing these dastardly affairs.
In fact, here is my own favorite theory right now:
The instrument, leader, triggerman, and catalyst all in one of this whole thing was Pat Poff. He came out of a huge cauldron, a soup of bizarre shady car dealings that extend far and wide, and dope, and people playing tough guys, and people holding grudges, and even engaged in shady (illegal, but non-murderous) dealings, etc.
Did Cab Tice benefit? Sure. So did others who have been named. But did any one, or any group of them likely give Pat a nod, a contract, a go-ahead, an order, or any other explicit instructions to pull this thing off? I am going to keep looking, listening, and thinking, but I think the answer, one that seems unsatisfactory to sleuthing, but likely true to the facts, is No.
Look at the various ways that Pat described this operation, in advance, to the people involved, as well as to potential recruits who ultimately refused to get on board.
Jimmy Seaton's statement with regard to Pat has the ring of truth (as to relating what Pat
told him, not what the actual facts may have been), even though like a lot of the folks involved, there are legal/credibility troubles of his own. But, every one of the statements where someone describes Pat talking to them about this (or a similar prototype 'operation') describes a lens that Pat totally customized to them! Even LE got this 'custom' treatment via Pat's own statement to them, regarding shadowy mobsters, gang members, and the need to enlist the "feds", and Cab Tice likely throwing him (Pat) under the bus -- which Tice did not overtly need to do.
Look at what Pat's stepmom said that Pat gave as reasons -- totally ludicrous and seen no where else! -- that Byrd needed to 'go down.'
Think back to the various Myspace pages this guy had. His total fabrications over years and years, recounted through others statements. The fact that even those closest to him, and ostensibly supporting him speak to his unreliability and mental oddities. Look at how loosey-goosey he put this crew together, based on Gary Sumner's statement.
Knew him all of three weeks total.
Other credible witnesses described an attempt to recruit some casual 'drop-ins' to Pam Wiggins house, just off the cuff....
One 'friend' described Pat calling him thirteen times on the day of the crime, to try to cajole him to join even then. And for what reason, with seven trained (???) people already on board, and too many vehicles to even manage well...
This guy was a walking freak show, and it is possible, if not likely, that he alone knew what outcome awaited the victims in that house.
