KS KS - Andrew Memmelaar, 17, Lehigh, 25 October 1975

[Mysteries1974]

Just for convenience I’m posting all of his links to MP databases. His doe network was updated with DNA avalibility.

Andrew Memmelaar – The Charley Project

5345DMNY - Andrew Memmelaar

Missing Person Case

Have you seen this child? ANDREW MEMMELAAR

 

[zedda]

I wonder how many of the lost and missing are buried within a mile of interstate highways, which themselves are probably this country's largest mapped graveyards.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I wonder if he was traveling by car? if he was and there were bodies of water maybe he plunged into one of them.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Dennis Rader - Wikipedia

Possibility?

 

[Mysteries1974]

There are also multiple bodies of water in the areas that andrew would have to drive through.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Andrew has been missing for 43 years..

 

[HockeyGirl]

I am bored and have major insomnia, so of course that means I have to look up Doe cases. I stumbled across this one.
Sorry if I am not allowed to post links, it has been so long since I have posted on here. If he really was headed to NY, he would have gone right through Ohio.

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Law-Enforcement/Investigator/Unidentified-Remains/Doe-2017

 

[HayLouise]

Annette Lawless KAKE News ‏Verified account @AnnetteLawless

Please, RT! 40+ years have passed & still no sign of Andrew Memmelaar. He was 17 years old & last seen in Lehigh, Kan. He was believed to be traveling to New York state. http://bit.ly/2TLOmN8 #MissingPerson #ColdCase #KAKEnews #Missing #MissingInKS #MissingTeen

Annette Lawless KAKE News on Twitter

 

[Savemecastiel]

Bumping

 

[madamx]

Bumping for Andrew . So sad we don’t know if he was driving, taking a bus, taking a train or hitchhiking.

 

[Noahsmomma]

My grandma was dating Andrew’s father around the time he disappeared. To bad she have since passed.

 

[Noahsmomma]

My grandma was dating Andrew’s father around the time he disappeared. To bad she have since passed.

 

[madamx]

My grandma was dating Andrew’s father around the time he disappeared. To bad she have since passed.

Welcome to Websleuths Noahsmomma... by any chance do you remember her mentioning anything at all about Andrew or the disappearance ? Thank you

 

[madamx]

Reconstruction of the victim (Betty Pat Gatliff)

Date of Discovery: March 9, 1979
Location of Discovery: Norwood Park Township, Cook County, Illinois
Estimated Date of Death: 1972 to 1978 (most likely January 3, 1972 - July 31, 1975 based upon blood evidence, location found and killer's statements)
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
Cause of Death: Homicide

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 14-18 years old
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 5'9"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Evidence of probable healed fracture of the right humerus (upper arm).

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Blue jeans, shirt (unknown description), underwear and socks. Clothing remains were deteriorated.
Jewelry: Plain, silver colored ring found with bones of the left hand.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim's skeletal remains were located buried in the backyard of John Wayne Gacy's home.

Altogether, 29 victims' remains were located on Gacy's property. Four were found in the Des Plaines River, although Gacy confessed to dumping five bodies in the river. There are 33 known victims, but it is suspected that there may be more.

As of 2019, this victim and five others remain unidentified: [URL='http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/955umil.html']955UMIL, 956UMIL,957UMIL, 958UMIL, and 962UMIL.

Serial killer Gacy was convicted of his crimes and executed in 1994.

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/954umil.html

 

[Noahsmomma]

She never mentioned him. My friend in law enforcement got ahold of Andrews sister Mary Elkins a few years ago. Mary said she didn’t know why Andrew was considered missing still, and that he was dead. So not sure if she knows more about the disappearance then she likes to let on.

 

[madamx]

She never mentioned him. My friend in law enforcement got ahold of Andrews sister Mary Elkins a few years ago. Mary said she didn’t know why Andrew was considered missing still, and that he was dead. So not sure if she knows more about the disappearance then she likes to let on.

Oh wow.. yes sounds like she knew more or she just after all these years has accepted it as death or just does not want to talk about it. Maybe they know he died but never found the body. It’s strange he is still all over missing persons. oh either way it’s sad. Thank you so much for your response and help on the thread.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Andrew Memmelaar – The Charley Project

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Has Andrew Memmelaar been considered for this John Doe? Interestingly, a scar on John Doe's left arm is also mentioned.

Have you seen this child?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

2279UMCA

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Mount Baldy John Doe Thread:

CA - CA - Los Angeles Co., WhtMale 2279UMCA, 17-21, near Mt Baldy, Mar'79

The Doe Network: 2279UMCA 2279UMCA https://www.missingkids.org/poster/NCMU/1184192/1#poster NamUs UP4407 and UP4410 https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/4410 Unidentified White Male The victim was discovered on March 28, 1979 and May 22, 1979 in Mount Baldy Village and...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Laughing]

Reconstruction of the victim (Betty Pat Gatliff)
Date of Discovery: March 9, 1979
Location of Discovery: Norwood Park Township, Cook County, Illinois
Estimated Date of Death: 1972 to 1978 (most likely January 3, 1972 - July 31, 1975 based upon blood evidence, location found and killer's statements)
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
Cause of Death: Homicide
Physical Description
Estimated Age: 14-18 years old
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 5'9"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Evidence of probable healed fracture of the right humerus (upper arm).
Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available
Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Blue jeans, shirt (unknown description), underwear and socks. Clothing remains were deteriorated.
Jewelry: Plain, silver colored ring found with bones of the left hand.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown
Circumstances of Discovery
The victim's skeletal remains were located buried in the backyard of John Wayne Gacy's home.
Altogether, 29 victims' remains were located on Gacy's property. Four were found in the Des Plaines River, although Gacy confessed to dumping five bodies in the river. There are 33 known victims, but it is suspected that there may be more.
As of 2019, this victim and five others remain unidentified: [URL='http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/955umil.html']955UMIL, 956UMIL,957UMIL, 958UMIL, and 962UMIL.

Serial killer Gacy was convicted of his crimes and executed in 1994.

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954UMIL

Upthread someone posted that Andrew is not Gacy Victim #10?

I know that dates are always iffy -- but Andrew disappeared later than the dates suggested by LE. Not much later, but later.

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