KY KY - Andrea Knabel, 36, mother of two, Audubon Park, Louisville, 13 Aug 2019 #2

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bears10 said:
Didn’t the PI say her phone was at her moms at 6:31? When he posted that timeline on Facebook?
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Yes he sure did , and the detective also publicly said it on investigative discovery . Not sure who this retired detective is , but he needs to get with it. IMO
Where she/ her phone was last is HUGE.
 
My heart breaks for Erin and her dad and still nothing from EB or SK? Another thing , I think LE could ping her last known location . I’m not sure fully trust this new info tbh .
 
Could this be an attempt to get information from the person(s) that had contact with Andrea during that time period?

JMO
 
Rachelj1 said:
Yes he sure did , and the detective also publicly said it on investigative discovery . Not sure who this retired detective is , but he needs to get with it. IMO
Where she/ her phone was last is HUGE.
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FWIW, on the Where is Andrea facebook page, the family says this new info is true and was verified by Google engineers.

Where is Andrea Knabel
 
There appears to be a divide in the family?

Father and Erin on one side - active in their search for Andrea, speaking publicly, etc.

Mother, other sister and her boyfriend on the other side.

Narrative locked down on that side.

Brushing off of the argument as a normal everyday type family spat. Which it certainly was not.

Evicting a family member and changing the locks while she is out walking the neighborhood at night is not a silly family spat!

Was the lock change out planned in advance?

What if the eviction was planned and Andrea was told she could no longer stay in her mother’s home where she had been living and the locks were changed while she was at the medical facility or had been changed earlier in the day?

The lock change out was done suddenly?

By a locksmith? Or the sister’s contractor boyfriend?
(Don’t know if they are married?)
JMO
 
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MimosaMornings said:
There appears to be a divide in the family?

Father and Erin on one side - active in their search for Andrea, speaking publicly, etc.

Mother, other sister and her boyfriend on the other side.

Narrative locked down on that side.

Brushing off of the argument as a normal everyday type family spat. Which it certainly was not.

Evicting a family member and changing the locks while she is out walking the neighborhood at night is not a silly family spat!

Was the lock change out planned in advance?

What if the eviction was planned and Andrea was told she could no longer stay in her mother’s home where she had been living and the locks were changed while she was at the medical facility or had been changed earlier in the day?

The lock change out was done suddenly?

By a locksmith? Or the sister’s contractor boyfriend?
(Don’t know if they are married?)
JMO
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Ethan changed the locks , her sister's fiance. She made it back there because Ethan first said they didn't hear her, then he said they were scared to answer. Exactly, Sarah and Ethan and the mother have not once searched for her that I'm aware of.

There is a huge divide, Erin is not close with Sarah at all. She wasn't before Andrea went missing either.
 
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I'm curious if anyone knows when the comments about not hearing Andrea knocking vs being scared to let her in happened chronologically?

Was there enough time between "didn't hear her" and "I was scared" for the information about her phone being at her mom's home at 6:30am to come out? That makes it seem like someone realized no one would buy the story that Andrea wanting in at 6 in the morning could have gone unnoticed and then decided to turn Andrea into the aggressor rather than victim. Seems fishy.

If Andrea went to Erin's pretty heated, left still upset, tried to get a ride for an hour and that didn't pan out, I would think the only logical emotions one would feel in that situation would be desperation/defeat or really angry. I really don't feel like the former would end up with her at her mom's house. I think the latter would, which makes me think she went there possibly to confront them. I'm not sure I believe someone in that situation would walk away without someone answering the door, even if it meant banging on a door for an hour. I could see someone listening to that from inside initially saying "just ignore her, she'll quit" for a while, but eventually everyone has a breaking point.
 
Exac
Hoosier952 said:
I'm curious if anyone knows when the comments about not hearing Andrea knocking vs being scared to let her in happened chronologically?

Was there enough time between "didn't hear her" and "I was scared" for the information about her phone being at her mom's home at 6:30am to come out? That makes it seem like someone realized no one would buy the story that Andrea wanting in at 6 in the morning could have gone unnoticed and then decided to turn Andrea into the aggressor rather than victim. Seems fishy.

If Andrea went to Erin's pretty heated, left still upset, tried to get a ride for an hour and that didn't pan out, I would think the only logical emotions one would feel in that situation would be desperation/defeat or really angry. I really don't feel like the former would end up with her at her mom's house. I think the latter would, which makes me think she went there possibly to confront them. I'm not sure I believe someone in that situation would walk away without someone answering the door, even if it meant banging on a door for an hour. I could see someone listening to that from inside initially saying "just ignore her, she'll quit" for a while, but eventually everyone has a breaking point.
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Exactly . They were not asleep other IMO . They never went to bed early. Erin called them and her mom to let Andrea inside too. There was a lot of really shady things Ethan did imo . I personally think there was a lot of jealousy from Sarah.
 
Hoosier952 said:
I'm curious if anyone knows when the comments about not hearing Andrea knocking vs being scared to let her in happened chronologically?

Was there enough time between "didn't hear her" and "I was scared" for the information about her phone being at her mom's home at 6:30am to come out? That makes it seem like someone realized no one would buy the story that Andrea wanting in at 6 in the morning could have gone unnoticed and then decided to turn Andrea into the aggressor rather than victim. Seems fishy.

If Andrea went to Erin's pretty heated, left still upset, tried to get a ride for an hour and that didn't pan out, I would think the only logical emotions one would feel in that situation would be desperation/defeat or really angry. I really don't feel like the former would end up with her at her mom's house. I think the latter would, which makes me think she went there possibly to confront them. I'm not sure I believe someone in that situation would walk away without someone answering the door, even if it meant banging on a door for an hour. I could see someone listening to that from inside initially saying "just ignore her, she'll quit" for a while, but eventually everyone has a breaking point.
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Imo she was at her moms outside , and then she got in. Either they ( Sarah and Ethan ) let her in , or she broke in.
 
Andrea is missing , and Sarah and Ethan know more than what they are saying . That is my opinion and it will always be . Breaks my heart for Erin .
 
Rachelj1 said:
Exac

Exactly . They were not asleep other IMO . They never went to bed early. Erin called them and her mom to let Andrea inside too. There was a lot of really shady things Ethan did imo . I personally think there was a lot of jealousy from Sarah.
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Why would there be jealousy from Sarah?
She was working, has Ethan her fiancé (married yet?) and was on good enough terms with her mother to allow them to work/stay at her house.
Jealous over Andrea who was struggling with life, no job, kids didn’t live with her?

Or did she think Andrea’s life was easier, no ambition, no plans, tired of her issues?
 
Rachelj1 said:
Exac

Exactly . They were not asleep other IMO . They never went to bed early. Erin called them and her mom to let Andrea inside too. There was a lot of really shady things Ethan did imo . I personally think there was a lot of jealousy from Sarah.
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IMO idk if Sarah had much to be jealous of Andrea. I mean that with all due respect.
 
I'm totally new here so excuse the posting format! Has this Jane Doe from Philly been ruled out? Photo is graphic: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

This is the photo sketch (not graphic): https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/62263/Images/67197/Original

She was discovered 6 months after last contact and is about 10lbs lighter than Andrea. Otherwise the physical features are close. Did Andrea have tattoos? The Philly Jane Doe had thick eyebrows and it seems Andrea had thicker eyebrows in certain photos. Philly Jane Doe says brown eyes but the sketch looks more dark hazel like Andrea's.
 
Mary_r_v said:
I'm totally new here so excuse the posting format! Has this Jane Doe from Philly been ruled out? Photo is graphic: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

This is the photo sketch (not graphic): https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/62263/Images/67197/Original

She was discovered 6 months after last contact and is about 10lbs lighter than Andrea. Otherwise the physical features are close. Did Andrea have tattoos? The Philly Jane Doe had thick eyebrows and it seems Andrea had thicker eyebrows in certain photos. Philly Jane Doe says brown eyes but the sketch looks more dark hazel like Andrea's.
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I recall reading here, a while back, that Andrea's sister claimed to have seen the post-mortem photo of this Doe, and decided that it wasn't Andrea.
 
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