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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-of-the-Case-Remember&p=5514036&styleid=21


Also Sunday, a man who asked not to be shown on camera, expressed his frustration about the Kyron Horman tipline.

“Chas” said he has called the tip line twice, but hadn’t heard back. He was concerned other people’s tips, like his, were not checked on.

Chas said he saw Terri Horman the day Kyron mysteriously vanished.

“I was on my way to work, driving down Highway 30,” said “Chas.”

It was Friday, June 4th, sometime between 9:15 and 9:45 in the morning. “Chas” was heading south on Highway 30, on his way to work when a white truck pulled out onto the road.

"It came out of one of these side streets, I am not exactly positive which one, but I am pretty much sure that it was north of Logie Trail road.”

Logie Trail Road is right across from Sauvie Island. One of the areas investigators have searched several times.

"I recognize that truck because I have a friend that has a similar truck and I thought it was him.”

But when “Chas” pulled up next to this truck, he saw that it wasn't his friend, it was a red-haired woman, he didn't recognize.

He later realized that “red-haired” woman was Terri Horman.

“I didn't really think anything of it, obviously at that time there was no reason to.”

“Chas” said he's been following Kyron's disappearance since day 1, and when police released the flier asking the public to come forward with any information if they had seen Terri Horman or the white truck the day Kyron disappeared. That's when “Chas” remembered back to June 4th and called the tip line.

“The next day, I called again, and gave a little bit more detailed information because in the back of my mind I was thinking maybe I didn't give enough information."

Now 10 days later, “Chas” was left feeling a little frustrated.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopula...5FG4Q.cspx?p=8
 
Is this area anywhere near the road where a man claimed to have seen a red head driving a white truck?

Oh that was the famous "Chas" and he saw the redhead in white truck at Logie Trail road. Looking for link

Original links with quotes and discussion here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...in-Pickup-Truck-Begining-of-the-Case-Remember

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ing-of-the-Case-Remember&p=5514036&styleid=21


Also Sunday, a man who asked not to be shown on camera, expressed his frustration about the Kyron Horman tipline.

“Chas” said he has called the tip line twice, but hadn’t heard back. He was concerned other people’s tips, like his, were not checked on.

Chas said he saw Terri Horman the day Kyron mysteriously vanished.

“I was on my way to work, driving down Highway 30,” said “Chas.”

It was Friday, June 4th, sometime between 9:15 and 9:45 in the morning. “Chas” was heading south on Highway 30, on his way to work when a white truck pulled out onto the road.

"It came out of one of these side streets, I am not exactly positive which one, but I am pretty much sure that it was north of Logie Trail road.”

Logie Trail Road is right across from Sauvie Island. One of the areas investigators have searched several times.

"I recognize that truck because I have a friend that has a similar truck and I thought it was him.”

But when “Chas” pulled up next to this truck, he saw that it wasn't his friend, it was a red-haired woman, he didn't recognize.

He later realized that “red-haired” woman was Terri Horman.

“I didn't really think anything of it, obviously at that time there was no reason to.”

“Chas” said he's been following Kyron's disappearance since day 1, and when police released the flier asking the public to come forward with any information if they had seen Terri Horman or the white truck the day Kyron disappeared. That's when “Chas” remembered back to June 4th and called the tip line.

“The next day, I called again, and gave a little bit more detailed information because in the back of my mind I was thinking maybe I didn't give enough information."

Now 10 days later, “Chas” was left feeling a little frustrated.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopula...5FG4Q.cspx?p=8
BBM - I don't consider it the same area, but would love to have locals weigh in.

I see that the areas aren't actually that far apart, so maybe some do consider the location as one.

From 2nd FM to Chas Tip 12 mi apx.jpg

From 2nd FM to Recent Search Area 7 mi.jpg

Recent Searches.jpg
 
Since it began, I have archived Kyron's case.

I can no longer add video news, just articles and pics. There is almost 3,200 files in 6 subject-specific albums, plus the general Kyron Horman main Case Archive.


Please share the links as you please, idk my links and passwords to other forums.



Kyron Horman Case Archive, Main Page:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Kyron Horman -OR-?sort=6&page=1

All Legal and Court Matters:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...OR-/All Legal and Court Matters?sort=6&page=1

Events, Fundraisers, Tributes, Vigils, Wall of Hope:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...rs-Tributes-Vigils-Wall of Hope?sort=6&page=1

Locations, Pics from Locals, Search Areas:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr... Pics from Locals- Search Areas?sort=6&page=1

Photos of Kyron:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...on Horman -OR-/Photos of Kyron?sort=6&page=1

Terri Moulton, Arrests and Beyond:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...ri Moulton - Arrests and Beyond?sort=2&page=1

The Search for Kyron:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...rman -OR-/The Search For Kyron?sort=6&page=1
 
Excellent thoughts, Lucy.

I particularly appreciate you're thoughts on someone hitting him on the road accidentally or otherwise.

Your perspective parallels mine and I do sometimes wonder if TH is just a giant red herring. Can argue about her until the end of days, but what if......

WG

Thank you. Those are pretty narrow, steep roads with a lot of underbrush. I mention that because it would be easy to hit a cat, dog, deer, or bicyclist if you weren't paying attention and have it flung clear and buried in the foliage. Even the best samaritan would get out and have a look and assume it was wildlife.

And the trial by media for TH is seen in other cases. Like with Carl Probyst, Jaccee's step dad and others. It just seems the focus on her could have led to missing other bits and pieces. What I don't understand is if he checked into school, put his backpack and such in the classroom, then vanished. Why was he marked as absent and not missing? They divided up in small groups to go to the fair and his items were in the classroom. It's confusing to me.

Just my thoughts.
 
Thank you. Those are pretty narrow, steep roads with a lot of underbrush. I mention that because it would be easy to hit a cat, dog, deer, or bicyclist if you weren't paying attention and have it flung clear and buried in the foliage. Even the best samaritan would get out and have a look and assume it was wildlife.

And the trial by media for TH is seen in other cases. Like with Carl Probyst, Jaccee's step dad and others. It just seems the focus on her could have led to missing other bits and pieces. What I don't understand is if he checked into school, put his backpack and such in the classroom, then vanished. Why was he marked as absent and not missing? They divided up in small groups to go to the fair and his items were in the classroom. It's confusing to me.

Just my thoughts.
Technically Kyron was never checked into school. He was at the sience fair in the morning before school started. It is alleged that TH made it known to his teacher that Kyron had a Dr. appt. that day. IMO TH brought his backpack and such in his classroom as a ploy that she left him at school.
Teacher marked him as absent because she thought he was TH for his Dr. appt.
 
The Perp certainly had this maneuver well planned. It's these disappear in broad daylight scenarios that are the hardest it seems. I would like to know if anyone had nonchalantly been asking anyone at the school about security cams, etc. The Perp knew there wouldn't be video capture of their movements.
I certainly hope everyone stretched their memories on that point.
 
BBM - I don't consider it the same area, but would love to have locals weigh in.

I see that the areas aren't actually that far apart, so maybe some do consider the location as one.

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Those are not the same areas. From the school to Sauvie island can take up to an hour depending on traffic, etc. 30 minutes minimum. Logie Road isn't on the island though...so its confusing. As the crow flies, yes its close, but the roads over germantown are 25 MPH max, less at times. Thats a drive.
 
The Perp certainly had this maneuver well planned. It's these disappear in broad daylight scenarios that are the hardest it seems. I would like to know if anyone had nonchalantly been asking anyone at the school about security cams, etc. The Perp knew there wouldn't be video capture of their movements.
I certainly hope everyone stretched their memories on that point.

IIRC, TMH has a degree in Education & had been a substitute teacher in that building?

As a parent in the building, I expect that she would have been able to determine the location of any security cameras.

Also, IIRC the building had no such system.

If someone has a link, I'd love to see it!

JMHO and thank you very much.
 
IIRC, TMH has a degree in Education & had been a substitute teacher in that building?

As a parent in the building, I expect that she would have been able to determine the location of any security cameras.

Also, IIRC the building had no such system.

If someone has a link, I'd love to see it!

JMHO and thank you very much.

Hmmmm. Falls right in line with my speculation.
 
To add to the conversation about cameras: I sub in my children's elementary school in the northern VA area. School just went through a remodel a few years ago and we have zero cameras in the halls. Just one over the front and back doors that allows the secretaries to see who is at the door once the doors are locked during the school day.

Also, one time when I was substituting in second grade we had a student steal things from the room during recess. I had asked the other teachers if there were cameras, hoping that we could see who was going back into the room during recess. They told me no we do not.

My point is, it would've been very easy for TH to find out if there were cameras if she was indeed subbing there.
 
IIRC, TMH has a degree in Education & had been a substitute teacher in that building?

As a parent in the building, I expect that she would have been able to determine the location of any security cameras.

Also, IIRC the building had no such system.

If someone has a link, I'd love to see it!

JMHO and thank you very much.
BBM - She does have her degree in education, but she had let her license lapse in 2007 and only renewed it in February of 2010. Before that, she had been a substitute teacher in the Hillsboro School District.

She did "volunteer" at Skyline School.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html


I agree perfectly with all you points, though. :)
 
A prayer for Kryon today:

Lord Jesus, we trust you in a matters. Your sweet child of God, Kyron, needs to come home to his beloved mother, Desiree. Dear Lord, please use your hand to guide the searchers to little Kyron. We humbly ask for your intersession, and help. Glory be to God, Amen!

That's a nice prayer, thank you.
 
To add to the conversation about cameras: I sub in my children's elementary school in the northern VA area. School just went through a remodel a few years ago and we have zero cameras in the halls. Just one over the front and back doors that allows the secretaries to see who is at the door once the doors are locked during the school day.

Also, one time when I was substituting in second grade we had a student steal things from the room during recess. I had asked the other teachers if there were cameras, hoping that we could see who was going back into the room during recess. They told me no we do not.

My point is, it would've been very easy for TH to find out if there were cameras if she was indeed subbing there.

IIRC at the time Kyron went missing there were no cameras. I believe they were added after the fact,and security procedures were changed.
 
Aside from the fact that looking at TH in the above picture makes me :censored::rant::needdrink::puke: I *love* the look in the eyes of TY, Desiree's husband. While his face is expressing extreme pain and sorrow, those Detective eyes are scanning....scanning....
I'm sure he knew right away.



I agree with you. His detective gut instinct must've been on full alert. He is a very well respected law enforcement officer, and it had to have been very difficult for him.
 
A total and complete shot in the dark here.

The 3 Emery brothers were recently arrested for sexual abuse and child *advertiser censored*.

They are in their 80's and their houses, garages, sheds, basement, attics, were hoarding rooms for everything devious - from child sexual assault and murder, and anything you would never want to imagine.

Their crimes have been going on for decades.

They have a house in Shelton, Washington which is 130 miles from Portland, Oregon and a house in Seattle which is a little further.

While their twisted interest does appear at this point to be female, we all know how gender is not an issue for some sexual deviants.

They have cadaver dogs at both properties and are investigating a potential link to Lindsay Baum's case.

It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they were involved in the disappearance of Kyron - as an alternative to TH being responsible.

They had many missing and murdered children's fliers from across the country.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.daily...9s-search-lake-house-kiddie-sex-suspects.html
 
Yikes! :eek: on that article that you posted Wondergirl!!!
 
BBM - She does have her degree in education, but she had let her license lapse in 2007 and only renewed it in February of 2010. Before that, she had been a substitute teacher in the Hillsboro School District.

She did "volunteer" at Skyline School.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html


I agree perfectly with all you points, though. :)

Your correct. She never taught at Skyline. My oldest had her for a sub a few times in another school in that district. Scary but true. Skyline always had high amounts of parent volunteers and she did volunteer there.
 
I personally think that's not really a viable theory. The Emerys would have absolutely no reason to drive that far to a school they probably had no idea even existed. And they were still elderly at that time also. Those kind of predators usually just snatch kids when an opportunity presents itself, and it's usually not as complicated as this would've been for older men to pull off. It would be highly risky for a stranger to go into an unfamiliar elementary school and snatch a kid from a hallway without knowing the lay of the land so to speak.
 
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