Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Curious Me]

In California I was able to appoint my employer offered life insurance beneficiaries as different than the default spouse appointment by law. You sign who you want your beneficiaries to be, and the spouse has to sign that he acknowledges it and it is legal documentation upon your death. I wanted my life insurance proceeds to go to my two children 50-50, and new husband could get my share of our home. I realize now I was putting protection on myself that hubbie wouldn't have to kill me for insurance money.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

If Kyron was ahead of TH on the inheritance list comes to mind.

ETA: or TH didn't want to share the proceeds.

Don't know about Oregon, but, in many states, including IL, you can't disinherit a spouse. The spouse's share of the estate is at least 1/3. Child or children get 2/3. So, two children means K would get 1/2 of the 2/3, where she an only child would get all of it.

 

[sofia76]

I don't know if Kaine was unfaithful to Terri or not, but it could certainly explain the tone of his email to his coworkers, his "let's keep the focus on Kyron" statements, and that message from the owner of the Brooks Hill Church, advising the community to not comment on the family at all.

This is the scenario I am imagining: Let's say you were unfaithful to your spouse at some point, but the truth comes out and you have to own up to it. As you work things out with your spouse, the affair becomes known to family and close friends - maybe even some co-workers - but eventually the whole thing gets put behind you and becomes "water under the bridge."

Then months (maybe years) later, one of your children goes missing. You wouldn't have any reason to suspect the child's disappearance is related to your cheating. You'd have no idea that your spouse had not put the affair behind him/her, and was in fact scheming ways to have you killed. And in the meantime, as the search for your child becomes national news, you don't want your name and your family's name to be dragged through the mud because of this affair you carried on some time ago. You don't want newspapers finding out who this person you cheated with (or persons) is - especially if that person is married - and dragging THEIR name through the mud, either. As far as you're concerned, that is UNRELATED to your missing child. So you try to keep all personal family business personal - except that your spouse's family, exes, and friends keep blabbing to the press ... And you've got newspapers trying to make sense of the complex family "dynamics."

 

[GingerRed]

This being the same Terri who told reporters on Saturday afternoon that everything was fine and that it wasn't true Kaine had moved out . . . just before the RO was served and we all found out about both the RO and the divorce filing and that Kaine had taken Baby K and moved out at least several hours earlier, if not the day before. And it was also after she'd made two 911 calls, at least one of which was re a "custody issue", and presumably about the absence of Baby K and Kaine.

It's certainly well within the realm of plausibility that Kaine had had an affair, or even many affairs (can't say I'd blame him, given what we're learning about Terri), but at this point any information that has Terri as its only source goes into my "consider the source" file, not my "probably true" file.

Thank you for summing this up so perfectly. I'm just not willing to give Terri any credibility at this point.

 

[MsFacetious]

They DID look at her computer. :woohoo:

I feel SO much better now. That was really bugging me if they hadn't done that. Perhaps that is just something else that Kaine didn't know she had, so he didn't know they took it??? A landscaper is harder to hide than a computer.

I just wonder what caused them to have questions. :waitasec:

From the video at the link below:

"A reliable source tells news Channel 8 police had questions after examining files from Terrie Horman's computer.
A security expert explains investigators can retrieve old and deleted files."

SOURCE: http://www.kgw.com/news/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html​

 

[sofia76]

I think if TH had asked several people to knock off Kaine, one would have come forward sooner. This landscape guy is probably it and TH moved on to some other idea.

I can't think of anything that would have to do with Kyron that I can believe in, though. She wasn't going to end up with custody if Kaine was dead, IMO. He has a bio-mom who seems involved enough in his life. So hiding him would do what? I don't think this was about money, she wanted to be rid of Kaine. If she got some money, well and good. But I'm not seeing that as a motive. Striking out a Kaine via Kyron, maybe. Either way, it does not bode well for Kyron, IMO, and with this stuff coming out, she is not about to talk. But she was not going to talk anyway, not with a lawyer and after a month of not telling what, if anything, she knows.

I don't think that's realistic. Here's the thing. If you are a stay at home mom, and your only professional experience is in a field where there are currently zero job prospects, money is going to be foremost in your mind. I am not even mad at my husband about anything, and the thought has occurred to me: how would I support myself without this man? Who would care for my children while I'm working? Where would I live? etc. etc. If you are mad at your husband (for whatever reason) and you are thinking about leaving them, but you have no job and no prospects for getting one, money is DEFINITELY on your mind.

 

[STEADFAST]

Maybe last Fall, Terri wanted to have Kaine killed because their marriage wasn't going as she wanted. but then, when she realized the difficulty of actually finding someone who would agree to kill him, she hatched another plan. If Kyron disappeared, maybe Kaine would feel sorry for her and turn to her for comfort. and they could live happily ever after with their baby girl.

Or, the first part of the above, about the difficulty of having Kaine killed, but then Kaine sent her son away, and now she was really mad and wanted him to hurt in the worst way possible.

 

[Jack]

If this is indeed true--and we have no idea what went on between DY and KH with their divorce, most of that is hearsay and ROs can be SOP in these cases--TH knew this about him when she got involved with him. Why change her mind about him now? Why have a child with a man who you know is capable of such a thing?

Because for some reason women have this idea that "he may have done that to his ex, be he loves me and he would never do that to me. Our love is real and special". It goes along with "just because he cheated on her doesn't mean he'll cheat on me". Women are wierd that way in that a lot of us seem to overlook the obvious because we think love is a cure-all and somehow our love is going to change a bad boy into a good man.

 

[grandmaj]

We don't know for sure if the affair is real or if this was just the story that TH allegedly told the lawn man as her reason for wanting him gone. I'm taking that with a big old box of salt. TH has made many statements we know now were not true.

We need to be responsible here. It was printed that the lawn person said it. There is no proof so let's be careful.

This thread is starting to turn into an affair thread rather than the alleged contract hit on Kaine.

 

[mtnone]

I don't think that's realistic. Here's the thing. If you are a stay at home mom, and your only professional experience is in a field where there are currently zero job prospects, money is going to be foremost in your mind. I am not even mad at my husband about anything, and the thought has occurred to me: how would I support myself without this man? Who would care for my children while I'm working? Where would I live? etc. etc. If you are mad at your husband (for whatever reason) and you are thinking about leaving them, but you have no job and no prospects for getting one, money is DEFINITELY on your mind.

I agree. Make Kaine suffer might just be a side benefit for her. Her world was falling apart. She has never made good money, or worked much at all. She has to have needed money. Possible child support, if she could even get custody of the baby, wouldn't be enough to live on.

I am going to hang onto that for hope. I have said for some time that a ransom thing would make so much of this make sense and everyone agrees the scripted press conferences by the parents have appeared to be crafted for someone to hear. And that someone hasn't been us.

God, I want that boy to be alive and well.

 

[grandmaj]

I'd like a link please where it says TH was having an affair with the lawn man. Thanks.

 

[mrsjonnob]

I think the subject of a life insurance policy on Kyron likely being a part of the divorce agreement KH and DY have has been discussed here... so assume both KH and DY have policies on Kyrons.

Upon Kyron's death the Hormans would come into soe money... and then if KH suffers an unfortunate "accident" shortly thereafter, TH would come into another sum of money.

Sounds like a good idea to get rid of the kid first, to ensure a) they get Kyron's death benefit and b) Kyron would not inherit part of KH's insurance.

I have been a TH supporter til this info came out. I absolutely believe she is responsible now.
That poor little boy

 

[PickieChickie]

If this landscaper was telling the truth, he'd better get a restraining order too!

(Not that they can stop someone if they want you dead with a perfect example being Venus Stewart.)
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[Day Dreamer]

I don't think Terri being a former body builder would prevent her being a victim of abuse. Not saying she is one, but size is really not a factor and as we know, she is not in shape anymore. And Kaine looks like a big guy. Just not a statement that works for me.

The whole affair thing smells of an excuse TH may have used to landscape guy. She couldn't very well tell him that she was sick of being married to this guy but did not want to be a 3-time divorcee, for example. Just an opinion.

I understand that anyone can become a victim of abuse. I have seen it many times; and, I have worked to help friends (and even my own mother) escape an abusive relationship. With that said, I just don't see it. I just don't believe that Terri would submit so easily. I may just be reading it wrong; and, I am sure I am biased towards her now after all of the info that has come out in the last week.

I really feel that the "key" to the murder to hire plot lies in the details of the divorce between DY & KH; and, Kyron's custody case. I could be wrong though (I have been before). We could also learn a lot from DY as to what kind of person Kaine really is; but, I do not expect that anytime soon if at all.

I have gone back and looked at the first family presser and the photos. Honestly, when I look at Terri when she was hugging DY, I feel like she is thinking "Oh s(&*, what have I done??" Perhaps she did not realize the extent of pain she would inflict on DY if they were in fact friends (or even if TH felt guilt as another mother). Then felt it was too late to fix? I really do not believe Terri ever expected this case to get such national attention.

 

[grandmaj]

I don't want to see any more posts about TH having an affair with the Lawn Man until someone provides me with a link. Thank YOU.

We do not start rumors or carry rumors here to WS.

 

[Curious Me]

Maybe no one did have a real affair.
Maybe TH had the affair.
There's a feeling that another person is involved somehow if TH is.
Maybe Kaine had the affair.
Then, with who would be important.
All of this is not known at this point.
None of my business either except KYRON MISSING.
IMO, there's just a tiny bit of hope he could be brought home alive.
Please God.

 

[Paulette]

They DID look at her computer. :woohoo:

I feel SO much better now. That was really bugging me if they hadn't done that. Perhaps that is just something else that Kaine didn't know she had, so he didn't know they took it??? A landscaper is harder to hide than a computer.

I just wonder what caused them to have questions. :waitasec:

Why not just buy a new hard drive? Toss the old incriminating one & install a new one.

 

[cluciano63]

I do think that Desiree divorcing Kaine while pregnant may lead one to wonder...I mean, that is fairly drastic, though not unheard of.

But speculating on what Terri allegedly told the alleged landscaper is kind of useless, IMO. Very little from Terri's side of this entire affair (no pun intended) has proved to be true. (Although if LE did examine the computers, as well they should have, I tend to believe Grandpa even more about LE taking the truck.)

I do think we will learn more this week, but I don't think it will lead to Kyron. I think that only Terri can lead to Kyron and she has no incentive to do so, as I do not think LE can prove any charges against her. Her lawyer is not going to let her speak unless she tells him she wants to confess, IMO.

 

[CementPond]

Ooops. Guess that would be meant for me. Sorry. Didn't know our thoughts are considered rumor. I'll just go back to being quiet now. Sorry.

I don't want to see any more posts about TH having an affair with the Lawn Man until someone provides me with a link. Thank YOU.

We do not start rumors or carry rumors here to WS.

 

[Pensfan]

I know that we are not supposed to sleuth the landscaper.

But someone beat me to the "cabana boy". They don't have a pool.

My hubby said on a show of Desperate Housewives someone was having an affair with the landscaper and someone was shot. He really doesn't watch it so he was sketchy on the details .

At any rate, I am really wondering if the landscaper is really attractive. Just for interest sake on my part.

I have to amuse myself a bit as I am living in an alternative universe right now, apparently, that is filled with one crazy thing to the next.

Here is an attractive lawn man for you Calm down everyone! This is not "the" lawn man. This is only a stress relieving post.