LE serves search warrant on family home #4

[TobyWong*]

It can make a person crazy trying to think of the possible locations or hiding spots for phones and baby!!

IMO they will be found close and not together cause I think the whole "no phone can't call 911" was thought of just before 911 was called.

 

[In da Middle]

If I was the neighbor, I wouldn't talk to the media. I would talk to LE, but not the media. I wouldn't want to put myself or my family through this kind of public scrutiny. I certainly wouldn't trust the media to accurately portray my version of what happened.

Exactly!

 

[Just K]

Something just came to mind: While tending to someone's home I felt uncomfortable with the lights on and the drapes open. The drapes closed crooked and when I went to straighten them out I found and odd little door in the wood paneling behind the drapes. Being curious, I opened the little door. It was the oddest little man-made cabinet and obviously meant to hide things. There was no other obvious reason for it being there. It was about 8 inches square on the outside but slightly more space on the inside.

LE look behind the drapes and curtains...if you haven't already.

 

[raeann]

But wasnt there a mention of a teenage neighbor as well. I know I could not have made that up in my head (or did I)... I could have sworn that there was and I was so under the impression that this was the person she was drinking with. I do recall LE being told that the teenager next door had the code to her garage (DB's).

The teenager (who may or may not be a minor) does not live next door....can't say anymore cause this person MIGHT be a minor. This teen was mentioned to LE as having the garage opener code. This teen also may or may not be the same teen whose father was interviewed early on the first day who said that his son bought a car from JI a few years ago. But this teen is NOT the same neighbor that was visiting with the four year old daughter. Wow....hope that still doesn't consist of TMI on a person who may/not be a minor, but hope that helps.

jmo

 

[norest4thewicked]

But wasnt there a mention of a teenage neighbor as well. I know I could not have made that up in my head (or did I)... I could have sworn that there was and I was so under the impression that this was the person she was drinking with. I do recall LE being told that the teenager next door had the code to her garage (DB's).

Yes...there was mention of this, but not the one she was drinking with. I can see why you would be confused though...there has been so much info!

 

[Just K]

Just thought of four more places to check:
The air intake registers (is that what those vents are called?)
The Hot water heater
The HVAC unit
Any outside AC units

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I've said this before but it bears repeating. I think they should ask people who live along that river downstream to take a look along their river banks for Lisa.

 

[Just K]

One more thing to consider about the dumpster fire. From first hand experience, I know that if you destroy the casing of an IPHONE it will get very hot and they have been known to catch fire. That might explain why the dumpster caught fire.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I haven't jumped into this case much because I cannot seem to catch up on the news from day to day! Things are moving so fast!

But having seen these types of searches so many times in missing children cases, I have to point out a few things:

It sounds to me as if they think the phones are in the house, and that might explain the x-rays looking for the shape of mechanical devices in the walls or floor.

As far as "new stuff" - that could mean that LE is looking for new clues, or that literally there is "new stuff" in the house. Not necessarily new, but building material new: replaced floor tile, paint, carpet. This could be stuff the family has had in the house all along, but suddenly they are doing home improvement. And while that might seem strange, I swear it seems to happen in every one of these cases - people redecorate while their child is missing. Is this evidence of guilt, or merely a bizarre way of coping? I can't ever decide. Stuff like that drives me crazy.

Unless they find the body, it could be months or (sadly) even years before we know exactly what they took out of the house and why they took it. So I wouldn't sit here expecting them to tell us much in an ongoing case.

I'm glad to hear they took dogs into the house, and also took some cushions out of the house. In the Madeleine McCann case in Portugal, they waited much longer to take in dogs, who hit a scent of the child behind the couch as if a body had been hidden there at one time, or perhaps the child had fallen there. But by the time they got a hit, the results were inconclusive. So in this case, let's hope they got better results.

In the Dunn case in Texas, some couches were moved out of the house immediately by the family and either given to a neighbor or hauled to the dump (can't remember - it's confusing), then the living room redecorated. One of the couches had been used as a bed by the child, Hailey Dunn, yet those were gone before the police had a chance to examine them! Then the police had to search the dump for cushions/pillows/whatever, and it's been downhill ever since. So I really think LE is doing a better job in this Irwin case.

 

[frankie069]

The teenager (who may or may not be a minor) does not live next door....can't say anymore cause this person MIGHT be a minor. This teen was mentioned to LE as having the garage opener code. This teen also may or may not be the same teen whose father was interviewed early on the first day who said that his son bought a car from JI a few years ago. But this teen is NOT the same neighbor that was visiting with the four year old daughter. Wow....hope that still doesn't consist of TMI on a person who may/not be a minor, but hope that helps.

jmo

Thank you for clearing that up. I was very confused by that. So many stories going around and I try hard to follow only reliable sources but even they can over speak. I certainly would never post a name or anything else, so not to worry about that, I just heard a teenage neighbor. I dont think its TMI because no name is given and apparently I had my story wrong anyway.

 

[goldringstx]

I've said this before but it bears repeating. I think they should ask people who live along that river downstream to take a look along their river banks for Lisa.

I want them to search the creek that can be seen on google images in that buckeye greenway area.:maddening:

 

[mamamia54]

Has it been stated anywhere by anyone that Lisa was able to climb out of her crib by herself? I'm asking because it was about that age my own son got the notion to try it and actually made it, but not without a pretty good sized bump on the head from the hardwood floor in his bedroom. I'm just wondering how it would change things had Lisa tried this and hit her head so hard that she died sometime during the night and mom actually found her around 10:30 when she first said that she laid her down for the night.

 

[mamamia54]

I suppose I should also add that if this happened, everything else that we have heard of was staged.

 

[Bon]

If I was the neighbor, I wouldn't talk to the media. I would talk to LE, but not the media. I wouldn't want to put myself or my family through this kind of public scrutiny. I certainly wouldn't trust the media to accurately portray my version of what happened.

I understand what you are saying but she is a very important person in this case..I'm surprised the national media has not made a deal with her for an interview......money talks....she knows what the atmosphere was in that home before Lisa went missing..IMO, crucial information
Let's hope LE has got what they needed from her

 

[Boodles]

Has it been stated anywhere by anyone that Lisa was able to climb out of her crib by herself? I'm asking because it was about that age my own son got the notion to try it and actually made it, but not without a pretty good sized bump on the head from the hardwood floor in his bedroom. I'm just wondering how it would change things had Lisa tried this and hit her head so hard that she died sometime during the night and mom actually found her around 10:30 when she first said that she laid her down for the night.

I brought this up several days ago. Some people vehemently disagreed with me. But I think it is possible that Deborah was drinking out front, and the baby, who was not tired but had been put down earlier than normal, got out of her crib, crawled around and got herself injured, lost, whatever.

 

[luckyme]

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[mamamia54]

I brought this up several days ago. Some people vehemently disagreed with me. But I think it is possible that Deborah was drinking out front, and the baby, who was not tired but had been put down earlier than normal, got out of her crib, crawled around and got herself injured, lost, whatever.

Well, kids do the strangest things, it is possible, but something bothers me about Debs sobbing and now she's straightened up while speaking and it's like day and night. If she put Lisa down that early, what did she do with the two older boys, and where were the kids while she shopped for wine? Did she leave the two older ones home with Lisa?

It would just be way too easy to stage the lights turned on, the cell phones missing and also the screen pushed in or out.

 

[Bon]

I don't think DI would have come forward with the drinking wine story if it wasn't true. LOL! She has faced quite a bit of scrutiny about that and well deserved given she had the children in her care. They carried quite a bit of evidence from this neighbors house. Who's to say she didn't take the wine home with her, maybe she drinks more than DI. I think this neighbor has more than just a story about their wine escapade.

My sentimens exactly!!!

 

[In da Middle]

I want them to search the creek that can be seen on google images in that buckeye greenway area.:maddening:

They searched it extensively. Even drained it.

 

[frankie069]

Well, kids do the strangest things, it is possible, but something bothers me about Debs sobbing and now she's straightened up while speaking and it's like day and night. If she put Lisa down that early, what did she do with the two older boys, and where were the kids while she shopped for wine? Did she leave the two older ones home with Lisa?

It would just be way too easy to stage the lights turned on, the cell phones missing and also the screen pushed in or out.

I will bet my last dollar that DB got pissed off that Lisa would not sleep because she was sick and cranky and she slammed that baby down in her crib at that 7:30 or around there mark and the baby died. She then covered it up big time by leaving all the lights on and the doors open. Hence the kidnapping theme to the story, its either that or she really did a repeat on poor little Harmony and had this planned out for a while and when hubby had to work late, she got her chance because I still for the life of me cannot fathom how these 2 cases are beyond identical. They are exactly the same. I am just not sure which one I am going with but I am going to bet you this is what happened. I have no problem eating crow and making a formal apology if I am wrong but my gut tells me I am not.