Let's try to pick the perfect juror

[Bittiness39]

I couldn't agree more. I'd love to be on that jury though I know that'd never happen, lol. Young mothers who can't see any excuse for what KC's done. HECK YEAH being a mom to a young child is hard! It's the hardest thing ever! It's stressful, it's frustrating..so often you feel like a failure, or a bad mom, or that you just aren't doing enough for your kids..Sometimes you feel like you don't deserve your children and you just want to SCREAM and pull your hair out! Sometimes you just want to do your own thing, have your own fun, and not be "tied down" so to speak.

But that unconditional love and faith and trust they have for you quickly snaps you out of those feelings, or it should. I have bad days as a mom and sometimes feel guilty, like I'm just not good enough for my sweet little girl. Sometimes I can't believe how much she loves me. It thrills me to no end to know that I can make this little girl so happy just to be here. Watching her grow, enjoying her milestones, helping her learn..and my favorite part of the day..when all is done and she's tucked in and sleeping soundly and sweetly, looking very much like an angel..wow. I've never ever experienced any other natural high. In fact I'm gonna go take another peek at her and kiss her little forehead right now. I know it's cliche and you hear it all the time - but it is those moments that remind you just how much it is WORTH it. Am I necessarily proud that I had a baby at 20 and that I'm now an unmarried mother for the second time? No. But I'm not ashamed, either, and I AM proud of my daughter and who she is despite what some may consider negative circumstances. After all, to employ another cliche, God doesn't give you more than you can handle. It is selfishness and pure evil that made KC choose the path she did and therefor - she deserves severe punishment.

I like to think normally I am pretty open-minded and liberal about a lot of things in our justice system..but I still firmly believe in "an eye for an eye" and no amount of crying could change MY mind that KC deserves to die. I don't care what anyone thinks about the death penalty, there is NO other suitable punishment for robbing an innocent, defenseless, HARMLESS child who had NO other means of saving her own life..who depended on and trusted KC with her life..who would have LOVED her despite her faults unconditionally the rest of her life..of little Caylee's life. Caylee didn't get to stand before a jury of her peers and cry and ask for mercy to be spared on her life. Furthermore, Caylee did nothing, could not have done anything, to deserve her punishment and the sentence that was carried out. I sure hope LDB reminds the jury of that after KC's poke-my-eye-out performance to try and spare her worthless life. Hate to sound so harsh, but the humane way of execution is too good for her. JMO!!

Girlfriend your eloquent post is precisely the reason, imo, that the defense is stalling. IMO no demographic will be sympathetic to their client. Her own grandmother thinks KC deserves to be in general population. Not one friend of hers will agree to testify for the defense as a character witness. Hence, their issue: to wit, if no jury would be sympathetic to their client do you suppose they will insist the trial happen on Mars (the planet, not the candybar)? They will continue to stall and delay justice for the actual victim in this case to the point of absurdity.

I have no qualms about saying this: Jose Baez, imo, you are a disgrace. Same to AL. Same to CM. What a joke. I am sorry that the prosecution cannot provide you with an adequate defense. But that is not their responsibility. Yours is to defend your client. And I think that given what has been going down here of late...she still believes that someone with a wand from Hogwarts waived it in Caylee's direction and "poof" Caylee disappeared and KC is still so shell shocked she simply can't remember how or why her daugher disappeared into thin air.

 

[nanny1]

The perfect juror would only be the one that would say QUILTY !!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

This is the post I was citing- it is a capital case so there should be 12.

The poster is wrong. There will be 12 Jurors for the guilt phase.

But only 6 Jurors of that 12 have to vote for the Death Penalty during the Penalty phase, so maybe they just have them mixed up a bit.

 

[ZsaZsa]

The poster is wrong. There will be 12 Jurors for the guilt phase.

But only 6 Jurors of that 12 have to vote for the Death Penalty during the Penalty phase, so maybe they just have them mixed up a bit.

They don't require a unanimous vote for the Death Penalty?

 

[BondJamesBond]

Hmmmm....:waitasec:....

How 'bout this guy?

 

[Dignity4Victims]

They don't require a unanimous vote for the Death Penalty?

No they do not. Only 6 have to agree.

 

[jandkmom]

I am still holding out hope for me

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I am still holding out hope for me

I'll save you a seat right next to me in the Jury box.

 

[KeyboardCat]

IMO, the type of juror the defense will want will depend entirely on the defense's arguement.

Accident scenario/then followed by "ugly coping": They will want young single mothers needing help with childcare who have at times felt that having children denied them their freedom.

SODDI: I wrote something rather offensive here, so I decided to change it. I will simply say they either need someone who is both deaf and blind, someone who's IQ score places them at the left hand of the Bell curve, or someone who is looking to cash in by writing a book after they set her free.


Now for the prosecution: They will want anyone with the ability to use logic and reasoning to come to a rational conclusion (obviously no sex/race/age exclusions here.)

 

[butterfly1978]

The jury for the Prosecution would be anyone with common sense, and the ability to read and write.

The perfect jury for the defense would have to be aliens from a distant planet who have no knowledge of the English language.

 

[sleutherontheside]

KC's perfect juror???

One that was raised in the back woods of LaLa land with no running water or electricity, that thinks antibiotics are a government conspiracy to poison us, that swears they have been implanted with a tracking chip, that drinks Kool Aid by the gallon, that will oppose any government entities, and that is not only visually impaired, but hard of hearing as well.

 

[KeyboardCat]

sleutherontheside said it much lovelier than I.

 

[MustangSally1041]

Do you think any potential juror would think that it was actually 38 days and not 31 days since KC last saw the baby?

 

[RR0004]

Sorry if this has been mentioned...what kind of juror was JB thinking of when he hemmed and hawed about the possibility of sequestering a jury? I'm thinking lower-middle class people who would be severly hurt by loss of employment. If that's the case...and it is just my opinion...why would he think he'd have a better shot with them identifying with his client? She was never employed. Could it be that he's looking for folks that aren't "highly" educated? I mean no disrespect...but what demographic would be hindered by being sequestered?

 

[miss plum]

The perfect juror for the defense would be someone whose hobby is internet trolling, and who would also enjoy being contrarian and mock-obtuse in a real life setting.

 

[KeyboardCat]

Sorry if this has been mentioned...what kind of juror was JB thinking of when he hemmed and hawed about the possibility of sequestering a jury? I'm thinking lower-middle class people who would be severly hurt by loss of employment. If that's the case...and it is just my opinion...why would he think he'd have a better shot with them identifying with his client? She was never employed. Could it be that he's looking for folks that aren't "highly" educated? I mean no disrespect...but what demographic would be hindered by being sequestered?

I don't think the defense's differing opinions on the sequestering issue has anything to do demographics. I don't think it has anything to do with -who- he'd want on the jury. Look at how some of the threads on this board are recently more geared towards the prosecution's lack of evidence, and conflicting evidence (Threads such as the prosecution's problems, and the differing duct tapes). I've noticed the media in general has been looking more towards the weaknesses, rather than the strengths of the state's case. Maybe one defense lawyer thinks any juror can sit at home and hear more excuplatory evidence than one could in the court room? Or maybe he wants each juror to see the massive tv coverage and conclude that she truly has already been convicted by public opinion, hoping one juror would vote to set her free out of some sort of sympathy.

However, if the defense does manage to get some evidence thrown out at trial (like the party photos), not sequestering the jury would be foolish. This almost leads me to believe at least one defense attorney either expects those party photos/"junk science" to be admitted, or believes it won't affect his arguments either way.

 

[gngr~snap]

Can we take it a step further?
12 jurors...
6 chosen by the state
6 chosen by the defense

if we seperate the two out... what type of juror would be chosen for each group?

 

[TrY]

Hmmm..I don't know who the perfect juror would be but I think if I was on the defense side I'd be looking for young people who have the same party hardy lifestyle as Casey does. Also a young person for whom being sequestered wouldn't be a hardship or someone older who is currrently unemployed (same reason as being sequestered may not be a hardship).

For the prosecution - someone who is computer and tech savvy because there's going to be a lot of forensic evidence.

 

[gngr~snap]

WOW! very nice.

Defense
1- young
2- thinks partying is no crime
3- unemployed
4- won't have a problem being sequesterd
5- ? hispanic/not white
6- ? single mother/ childless

State
1- computer savvy
2- educated
3- employed
4-? has a family
5-? has morals
6-? pays their bills

this is just a starting place fell free to replace at will.
No ill will to anyone just probing here!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

A retired, widowed nurse with children and grandchildren who is computer savvy would be a good choice. Could be sequestered without problems, would understand the science, has had experience with raising children through adulthood, understands the grandparent/grandchild relationship. Nurses are usually good at both giving and taking orders, are used to analyzing details. They also are quite used to gathering information and then making a decision to act based upon the knowledge gathered.