MA - Aaron Hernandez, N E Patriots player, charged with homicides, commits suicide #7

[jkly]

Baez is brilliant. I like him. He gets results. He is exactly the kind of lawyer everyone wants, totally committed to his client and thinking 10 steps ahead.
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I see him as more of a used car salesman who keeps selling gullible people really crappy vehicles which (going by the blood splattering their windshields and smearing their bumpers) have obviously been involved in hit and runs.

To take the analogy a step further, he tells them it's a mixture of paint and the entrails of suicidal, kamikaze squirrels, so they buy the vehicles and drive them away instead of leaving them in the junkyard where they belong.

It's just a strange coincidence that a similar car was seen mowing down an old lady a week earlier.

After all, they have to be fair. To the car, not the old lady.

 

[katydid23]

Jose Baez blindsided Casey Anthony's father during opening statements of her trial.

Baez boldly asserted that George Anthony forced his 12 yr old daughter to give him oral sex in the mornings, as she waited for the school bus. He had ZERO evidence of this. And never showed any proof or corroboration or testimony to support that ugly accusation.

I hate Baez for doing those kinds of low scummy stunts, in order to block Caylee's JUSTICE.

 

[jkly]

I think Jose Baez defends his clients thoroughly, and wisely.

More like recklessly. He could have turned the jury against some of his clients because he's gotten up and said things during his opening statements that he has failed to back up.

I realize that he is not required to prove anything. However, juries used to hold it against defense attorneys when their opening statements had enough holes to drive a monster truck through.

He's lucked out so far because Florida juries seem well, to put it kindly, "lenient" and easily confused.

 

[jkly]

Yeah, saw that too.

Baez will 'act' as executor of his estate? Did AH change his will? If so, that puts a whole new twist on this...

Jose Baez, an attorney for Hernandez, has been retained by the athlete's family to investigate the circumstances surrounding his death and will act as the executor of his estate, according to a statement from Baez.

He's had bar complaints filed against him in the past for misuse of his client's finances.

So...I hope he went about this the way he usually does. By that, I mean in a questionably legal way. That would be enough to disbar him.

I also think someone should accuse him of murder since it seems he now has a motive. He doesn't need evidence to call people murderers and child molesters, often on National TV, so why should the rest of the world?

 

[momoftwocrazies]

Jose Baez blindsided Casey Anthony's father during opening statements of her trial.

Baez boldly asserted that George Anthony forced his 12 yr old daughter to give him oral sex in the mornings, as she waited for the school bus. He had ZERO evidence of this. And never showed any proof or corroboration or testimony to support that ugly accusation.

I hate Baez for doing those kinds of low scummy stunts, in order to block Caylee's JUSTICE.

Not true. George and Cindy knew for weeks that that was going to be the defense. Honestly, if I was in trouble, I'd call him in a heartbeat. He is an amazing lawyer and relates to people like very few can. Or he has sold his soul to the devil, haha. Listen, Aaron is a bad guy, Casey is bad but defendants need representation in court. Just because the guy is good at what he does, doesn't mean he's a jerk. He is just talented at his profession. And I think he does believe AH was innocent.

 

[jkly]

Yes. He got very testy with reporters that asked about anything but the brain.

I'm sure he was in an extremely bad mood over the fact that his client was not murdered. Now that it's been deemed a suicide, all the news about Hernandez is going to peter out.

He has to find another high profile client or the cameras will go away.

 

[jkly]

Not true. George and Cindy knew for weeks that that was going to be the defense. Honestly, if I was in trouble, I'd call him in a heartbeat. He is an amazing lawyer and relates to people like very few can. Or he has sold his soul to the devil, haha. Listen, Aaron is a bad guy, Casey is bad but defendants need representation in court. Just because the guy is good at what he does, doesn't mean he's a jerk. He is just talented at his profession. And I think he does believe AH was innocent.

Yes, he does relate to murderers in a way that very few can.

 

[DatelineFan]

So a question for a medical person....how much damage can be done to the brain with each autopsy? Will the researchers have anything really left?

A question for a legal person....when the defense has their person or person do an autopsy or autopsies, does the city/state/prison have people in the room so that the body and evidence is not 'messed with'?

On TV LE tends to be present as well as attorneys, I think. Haha. Anyone have a better source?

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[katydid23]

Not true. George and Cindy knew for weeks that that was going to be the defense. Honestly, if I was in trouble, I'd call him in a heartbeat. He is an amazing lawyer and relates to people like very few can. Or he has sold his soul to the devil, haha. Listen, Aaron is a bad guy, Casey is bad but defendants need representation in court. Just because the guy is good at what he does, doesn't mean he's a jerk. He is just talented at his profession. And I think he does believe AH was innocent.

He tarnished and trashed the Boston victims---publicly accused them of being drug dealers and gangsters----and of being the real shooters etc...


And in fact they were just had working immigrants, who borrowed a car so they could go out for the night. Baez shamelessly trashed them, in order to pretend his homicidal selfish client was a victim himself.

 

[gitana1]

I've been so busy with trial prep that I had no idea he killed himself. Stunning news.

I see him as more of a used car salesman who keeps selling gullible people really crappy vehicles which (going by the blood splattering their windshields and smearing their bumpers) have obviously been involved in hit and runs.

To take the analogy a step further, he tells them it's a mixture of paint and the entrails of suicidal, kamikaze squirrels, so they buy the vehicles and drive them away instead of leaving them in the junkyard where they belong.

It's just a strange coincidence that a similar car was seen mowing down an old lady a week earlier.

After all, they have to be fair. To the car, not the old lady.

Agreed. He's a snake oil salesman. It surprises me how many think he's brilliant. Or a good guy. He was lucky in the casey Anthony trial in many ways. Bad jury. Bad decisions to sequester on the part of the judge, etc. And he had a great team helping him.

He has smarts but I saw him making many mistakes during Anthony's trial that were pretty stunning. Nevertheless, he won! And people fall for his charms and that helps him with juries.

But I find him extraordinarily smarmy and dishonest. Repulsive.

Its harder work though to be honest and win. Dishonesty and smarminess is a means for those without ethics or true talent to still achieve.

 

[gitana1]

Jose Baez blindsided Casey Anthony's father during opening statements of her trial.

Baez boldly asserted that George Anthony forced his 12 yr old daughter to give him oral sex in the mornings, as she waited for the school bus. He had ZERO evidence of this. And never showed any proof or corroboration or testimony to support that ugly accusation.

I hate Baez for doing those kinds of low scummy stunts, in order to block Caylee's JUSTICE.

100% agreed. And I would never call that man if I needed a defense attorney.

 

[Crazyjster]

Baez is brilliant. I like him. He gets results. He is exactly the kind of lawyer everyone wants, totally committed to his client and thinking 10 steps ahead.

The coroner can only keep the brain until he/she obtains some frozen sections, then the family gets it. The family can also have coroner's frozen sections examined by their own pathologists. I seriously doubt that the coroner is incapable of performing this exam to determine whether CTE was present or not.

AH was competent to stand trial on 3 murders in 2 trials. If he had brain damage from CTE, he would have acted out in the courtroom where the stress and lack of control is overwhelming. But, Baez's clients have the right to have this determined. It will be done.

I don't care that he committed suicide. What option did he have other than life in hell on Earth? Seems like a rational decision to me.

I only wish he had killed himself before he took the lives of others and before he fathered a child.

I think I said something similar awhile back...and that was before the verdict...Imean if I was a killer I would want that slimeball as a defense attorney too...oh maybe not...who knows what favors I'd have to do...gross

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[Crazyjster]

He's had bar complaints filed against him in the past for misuse of his client's finances.

So...I hope he went about this the way he usually does. By that, I mean in a questionably legal way. That would be enough to disbar him.

I also think someone should accuse him of murder since it seems he now has a motive. He doesn't need evidence to call people murderers and child molesters, often on National TV, so why should the rest of the world?

I am trying to figure out when he became Executor...he is not Hernandez's appellate attorney...he should have left the state last Friday...yet he lingers on like a virus. Must smell $.

I am interested in when BU got their own brain bank (thats what I get for chucking donation letters) I know they didn't have anything like that when I was diagnosed with my brain tumor several years ago (I was checking out the research)...McLean used to be the ones hitting us up to donate our brains when I was a student...I think maybe his might need to be forwarded over to Belmont if there is no CTE.

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[Elley Mae]

“This is something the Legislature might want to look at,” Conley said, referring to the common-law doctrine known as abatement ab initio that could allow Hernandez’s conviction for the death of Dorchester semipro football player Odin L. Lloyd to disappear. “It does seem to be a bit of a tough pill for a family, like the Lloyd family, to swallow. He had a full and fair trial, he was represented by extremely competent council, he was found guilty by a jury of his peers and, really, that should stand.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/lo..._says_aaron_hernandez_conviction_should_stand

 

[turaj]

I am trying to figure out when he became Executor...he is not Hernandez's appellate attorney...he should have left the state last Friday...yet he lingers on like a virus. Must smell $.

I am interested in when BU got their own brain bank (thats what I get for chucking donation letters) I know they didn't have anything like that when I was diagnosed with my brain tumor several years ago (I was checking out the research)...McLean used to be the ones hitting us up to donate our brains when I was a student...I think maybe his might need to be forwarded over to Belmont if there is no CTE.

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i am curious about Baez being the executor as well. He really only came on the scene a short time ago and clearly long after AH was already in Prison. Given he is not an "estate attorney" exactly I assume AH had a will back in the day when he had assets coming in and that atty probably a Boston atty. Can the family change that too as clearly they probably like Baez? And that abatement provision in Ma. law needs to go!!! Most absurd antiquated law on the books. Frankly this whole deal...Shay showing up with daughter...Baez missing during on of his biggest verdicts...AH all emotional and now a big fat loophole that will be used to provide money to the family...just odd.

 

[Rocco]

I see him as more of a used car salesman who keeps selling gullible people really crappy vehicles which (going by the blood splattering their windshields and smearing their bumpers) have obviously been involved in hit and runs.

To take the analogy a step further, he tells them it's a mixture of paint and the entrails of suicidal, kamikaze squirrels, so they buy the vehicles and drive them away instead of leaving them in the junkyard where they belong.

It's just a strange coincidence that a similar car was seen mowing down an old lady a week earlier.

After all, they have to be fair. To the car, not the old lady.

I see him as a rodeo star. The way he rode that pony around the courtroom---never knocking down any exhibits or tipping over any chairs----amazing. I think barrels could be his specialty.

Then he can ride off into the sunset.

 

[turaj]

another legal question so clear that daughter has legal status in terms of his estate but what about Shay....I always felt she did that name change based on legal advice...does the fact she changed her own name mean anything now? I mean they never married so I would think she has no legal status other than the mother of Avielle.

 

[BUF]

If the reports are accurate about the three notes found, I find it terribly sad that he didn't leave a note for his brother DJ and his mother.

 

[Trinitee]

If the reports are accurate about the three notes found, I find it terribly sad that he didn't leave a note for his brother DJ and his mother.

I don't think he felt he had to leave his brother one, they were extremely close, spoke regularly and always acknowledged their love for one another. I believe there's a reason his mother didn't get one.

 

[Rocco]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-ley-rips-patriots-white-house-visit-20170419-story.html

ESPN's Bob Ley rips Patriots for planned White House visit after Aaron Hernandez suicide