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Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 18m18 minutes ago Lowy calls the morning recess. Back in about 15 minutes. MacDougall and Regan are loudly clashing. Awkward!
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
Some more heated words between the lawyers during a recess.
Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 17m17 minutes ago Salem, MA
Prosecutor Kate MacDougall gets audibly angry w/Regan as we break for recess about her intent to use raw test data in closing
Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 41s42 seconds ago
Court is back.
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 44s44 seconds ago
DA is objecting to the use of raw data by the defense.
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 44s45 seconds ago
ADA: Def atty wants to read questions of tests into record, says that could invalidate the tests
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: I assumed ADA had raw data. It's their witnesses. It was emailed to me.
Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 53s53 seconds ago
"I haven't kept anything from anyone. This is stuff produced by Commonwealth's own expert," Regan tells Lowy loudly
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
The judge says that the precedent in case says it's not fair for prosecutor expert to not have the same data as defense.
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Lowy; We are stuck in Catch22. The def saying raw data is nec for cross. It includes defendant statements
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 58s58 seconds ago
The judge suggests one solution is giving DA time to prepare
Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 1m1 minute ago
It appears the lady lawyers' quarrel regards statements of #PhilipChism that may come in that prosecutors are not prepared for.
Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 47s48 seconds ago
Lowy going over possibilities now to dealing with that; could be delay, impoundment of data, but no decision yet
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 50s51 seconds ago
Lowy: The raw data questions can harm the treatment of hundreds of thousands of ppl in world, if read in open ct w/cam in court.
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
Issue is compromising the the future use of the tests by revealing details of the questions.
Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
Prosecution again angry that defense blindsided them by using the raw data w/o notice. Lowy weighing possible options
Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 2m2 minutes ago
It involves "raw data" Regan will probe that Lowy says may force his hand to consider closing the courtroom to media coverage
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Lowy to defense: I need to know what your questions are so I can make a ruling.
There are several issues here. Raw data is only to be shared among the experts. Prosecution did not see the raw data, provided a copy to the defense for their experts to use. Defense instead got a copy of the proprietary handbook and plans on a detailed cross exam using the data and test questions.
Test questions are proprietary and are not to be shared outside the psychiatric profession. Reading them in open court could cause the tests to no longer be able to be used as people could study the tests and give answers to the tests during a psych eval to get around the malingering validity tests.
Also, prosecution has not seen the raw data and are unprepared to exam them with the doctor, or do follow-up with the doctor after the defense cross exam.
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
Some more heated words between the lawyers during a recess.
Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 17m17 minutes ago Salem, MA
Prosecutor Kate MacDougall gets audibly angry w/Regan as we break for recess about her intent to use raw test data in closing
Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 41s42 seconds ago
Court is back.
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 44s44 seconds ago
DA is objecting to the use of raw data by the defense.
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 44s45 seconds ago
ADA: Def atty wants to read questions of tests into record, says that could invalidate the tests
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: I assumed ADA had raw data. It's their witnesses. It was emailed to me.
Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 53s53 seconds ago
"I haven't kept anything from anyone. This is stuff produced by Commonwealth's own expert," Regan tells Lowy loudly
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
The judge says that the precedent in case says it's not fair for prosecutor expert to not have the same data as defense.
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Lowy; We are stuck in Catch22. The def saying raw data is nec for cross. It includes defendant statements
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 58s58 seconds ago
The judge suggests one solution is giving DA time to prepare
Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 1m1 minute ago
It appears the lady lawyers' quarrel regards statements of #PhilipChism that may come in that prosecutors are not prepared for.
Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 47s48 seconds ago
Lowy going over possibilities now to dealing with that; could be delay, impoundment of data, but no decision yet
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 50s51 seconds ago
Lowy: The raw data questions can harm the treatment of hundreds of thousands of ppl in world, if read in open ct w/cam in court.
Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
Issue is compromising the the future use of the tests by revealing details of the questions.
Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
Prosecution again angry that defense blindsided them by using the raw data w/o notice. Lowy weighing possible options
Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 2m2 minutes ago
It involves "raw data" Regan will probe that Lowy says may force his hand to consider closing the courtroom to media coverage
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Lowy to defense: I need to know what your questions are so I can make a ruling.
There are several issues here. Raw data is only to be shared among the experts. Prosecution did not see the raw data, provided a copy to the defense for their experts to use. Defense instead got a copy of the proprietary handbook and plans on a detailed cross exam using the data and test questions.
Test questions are proprietary and are not to be shared outside the psychiatric profession. Reading them in open court could cause the tests to no longer be able to be used as people could study the tests and give answers to the tests during a psych eval to get around the malingering validity tests.
Also, prosecution has not seen the raw data and are unprepared to exam them with the doctor, or do follow-up with the doctor after the defense cross exam.