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Verified Family - Joan Webster
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Hi Jgfitzge & Gruffin,
Great comments and observations.
I feel the report is solid. Irecognize the officer’s name filing the report. This report was taken by the Saugus PD department. The officer was part of a group already identified doing interviews. Rather than speculate what initiated contact with the person behind the counter, I am focusing on an eyewitness who saw Joan with a bearded man leaving the airport. The person behind the counter may or may not be related to the bearded man. Maybe it was the same person. We might never know, but we do have an identification of Joan and the bearded man.
I think it is reasonable for the bearded man to have brought his suitcase to the curb. The bearded man seemed to be impatient, maybe nervous, that the cabbie had difficulty loading a heavy bag. Joan knocked on the window of the first cab and said “Cambridge.” The cabbie was driving a Town Taxi. The exchanged words and switching cabs seems an overreaction. Many people get in the cab and don’t watch the bag loaded. For a cabbie to specifically comment on a heavy suitcase strikes me as well. They handle a lot of bags, some heavy I am sure. To stand out, it had to be unusually heavy. I think it is fair to consider, based on how things transpired, the bearded man wanted to be in a different vehicle. Maybe Joan knocked on the window of the first cab too quickly to maneuver to a different car initially.
The cabbie did not recognize the next car in line. He did not give any identifying lettering or markings, only the color. It differed from the regular cabs you described. I think the cabbie referred to the next car in the cab line outside the Eastern Terminal. I don’t think they would have driven off in the first cab regardless. That cab was checking in with a dispatcher, so there was a record.
There is some additional information about the bearded man. The cabbie estimated he was in his 40s, wireglasses, and wearing a dark overcoat. The hair was less frizzy than the composite shows and the face fuller. An officer I spoke with back in 2009 vaguely remembered a ponytail. That is not in the report. There is a bit more Iam checking with some other reports, but not ready to get into.
The appearance of the man and the age do not fit the typical guy Joan went out with. She dated young men her own age, clean cut, preppy-like, and very sharp professional type young men. Joan would not likely offer a shared ride to someone she did not know. The bearded man had to have gained her confidence. If this individual addressed her by name. Someone knowing who she was does not necessarily mean she knew him, but that would raise the question again of premeditation. Not very many people knew she was on that flight.
I agree, I think the bag was in Boston and probably put in the locker the next day, based on the police report.
I also agree it is not unusual not to call the police when the man found her wallet. She had all kinds of identification in the wallet, all intact. That is listed in FBI reports. He could have contacted Joan. The only thing noted as missing was cash. The written note may or may not be unusual. I know the name on the card. From my experience, that seems unusual for this person, and I am also looking at other behavior of that person at this time. The hand writing was not identified. I think the individual acted very responsibly.
Remember, the composite was constructed with templates, not a drawing. The hair was less frizzy, flatter. A full beard may have had limited templates to choose from. Wire glasses does not necessarily mean round. The hairline and mouth look right as well as the nose. The comparisons I have posted are all of the same person. It’s hard to say how well the cabbie could see eyes through the glasses. You can see, there are times the individual had a fuller face and different degrees of a beard. The images were striking enough to cause me some very serious concern. I would not have been able to make any identification if I had seen it at the time. I met this person later in time, but he had a very different appearance. Remember, the composite was suppressed, that in itself is a clue.
I agree, I don’t think the first cabbie was involved. The police should have been looking for the bearded man and the car they drove off in. There is no other record of any other cabbie or cab company, limo service having Joan as a fare. The fact these leads were absolutely squelched leaves me feeling chilled too. Based on what transpired, there appears to be very deliberate and nefarious activity. That is the biggest clue.Why was this derailed?
I have had serious tears when I got to certain information. When I saw Joan’s skull, I could not get out of bed for two days. When I learned of the condition how she was found, I spent the afternoon with dry heaves. When I saw the composite for the first time, I stared at it all night with chills going up my spine. I was looking at Joan’s killer or someone who knew what happened. This last information has had a similar effect.
Great comments and observations.
I feel the report is solid. Irecognize the officer’s name filing the report. This report was taken by the Saugus PD department. The officer was part of a group already identified doing interviews. Rather than speculate what initiated contact with the person behind the counter, I am focusing on an eyewitness who saw Joan with a bearded man leaving the airport. The person behind the counter may or may not be related to the bearded man. Maybe it was the same person. We might never know, but we do have an identification of Joan and the bearded man.
I think it is reasonable for the bearded man to have brought his suitcase to the curb. The bearded man seemed to be impatient, maybe nervous, that the cabbie had difficulty loading a heavy bag. Joan knocked on the window of the first cab and said “Cambridge.” The cabbie was driving a Town Taxi. The exchanged words and switching cabs seems an overreaction. Many people get in the cab and don’t watch the bag loaded. For a cabbie to specifically comment on a heavy suitcase strikes me as well. They handle a lot of bags, some heavy I am sure. To stand out, it had to be unusually heavy. I think it is fair to consider, based on how things transpired, the bearded man wanted to be in a different vehicle. Maybe Joan knocked on the window of the first cab too quickly to maneuver to a different car initially.
The cabbie did not recognize the next car in line. He did not give any identifying lettering or markings, only the color. It differed from the regular cabs you described. I think the cabbie referred to the next car in the cab line outside the Eastern Terminal. I don’t think they would have driven off in the first cab regardless. That cab was checking in with a dispatcher, so there was a record.
There is some additional information about the bearded man. The cabbie estimated he was in his 40s, wireglasses, and wearing a dark overcoat. The hair was less frizzy than the composite shows and the face fuller. An officer I spoke with back in 2009 vaguely remembered a ponytail. That is not in the report. There is a bit more Iam checking with some other reports, but not ready to get into.
The appearance of the man and the age do not fit the typical guy Joan went out with. She dated young men her own age, clean cut, preppy-like, and very sharp professional type young men. Joan would not likely offer a shared ride to someone she did not know. The bearded man had to have gained her confidence. If this individual addressed her by name. Someone knowing who she was does not necessarily mean she knew him, but that would raise the question again of premeditation. Not very many people knew she was on that flight.
I agree, I think the bag was in Boston and probably put in the locker the next day, based on the police report.
I also agree it is not unusual not to call the police when the man found her wallet. She had all kinds of identification in the wallet, all intact. That is listed in FBI reports. He could have contacted Joan. The only thing noted as missing was cash. The written note may or may not be unusual. I know the name on the card. From my experience, that seems unusual for this person, and I am also looking at other behavior of that person at this time. The hand writing was not identified. I think the individual acted very responsibly.
Remember, the composite was constructed with templates, not a drawing. The hair was less frizzy, flatter. A full beard may have had limited templates to choose from. Wire glasses does not necessarily mean round. The hairline and mouth look right as well as the nose. The comparisons I have posted are all of the same person. It’s hard to say how well the cabbie could see eyes through the glasses. You can see, there are times the individual had a fuller face and different degrees of a beard. The images were striking enough to cause me some very serious concern. I would not have been able to make any identification if I had seen it at the time. I met this person later in time, but he had a very different appearance. Remember, the composite was suppressed, that in itself is a clue.
I agree, I don’t think the first cabbie was involved. The police should have been looking for the bearded man and the car they drove off in. There is no other record of any other cabbie or cab company, limo service having Joan as a fare. The fact these leads were absolutely squelched leaves me feeling chilled too. Based on what transpired, there appears to be very deliberate and nefarious activity. That is the biggest clue.Why was this derailed?
I have had serious tears when I got to certain information. When I saw Joan’s skull, I could not get out of bed for two days. When I learned of the condition how she was found, I spent the afternoon with dry heaves. When I saw the composite for the first time, I stared at it all night with chills going up my spine. I was looking at Joan’s killer or someone who knew what happened. This last information has had a similar effect.