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GROAN! What is wrong with this jury? I am gonna need an emergency referral to an anxiety therapist.The jury is going home for the day.
No verdict today. Jury has indicated they want to go home.
Do you have a link to that specific witness testimony?Guess it’s true, the kids did say she was nice to them once in awhile.
Lallys closing he mentions Kerry being shown. I have to go rewatch a few things, definitely not trying to spread misinformation.I asked in Post #589 and am asking again, please provide a link to testimony where Kerry says the taillight looked the same in the sallyport. <modsnip>
Closing arguments are not evidence and cannot be considered such.Lallys closing he mentions Kerry being shown. I have to go rewatch a few things, definitely not trying to spread misinformation.
That still brings up yet another point of contention with the prosecution case, which is that for one thing, none of the prosecution's own witnesses saw her backup AT ALL, IIRC! Out of all the witnesses who said anything about KR's vehicle placement and movement, none of them testified they saw her backup, much less at 24mph and for 60 ft or whatever their claim was, IIRC.
And for another thing, that chart they showed of the info they got from the vehicle's computer that showed key cycles, meaning every time the car had been started, along with the events that happened with each key cycle, including whether it had backed up and for how long and at what speed, only showed that group of events happening one time, and that one time was while the car was in possession of LE and NOT KR.
According to the data they presented as evidence in this case, KR as the Lexus driver did not do (could not have done) this fast backup maneuver, the one that they allege is the action that killed JO.
So that should eliminate all confusion and make it cut and dried as to whether she's guilty or not. HOWEVER, the fact that it HASN'T, does nothing but bring up more confusion for me. How could it not be all anyone should have to hear to see she's not guilty? Is it because the data is not believed to be true? Is it because there was possibly some glitch w/extracting the info? Is it because the data was planted/fabricated/corrupt etc? If so, it would be the defense who would benefit from this data, so how would the defense get hold of it to change it in their favor? Obviously didn't happen.
So is it because I myself am interpreting the data wrong? That I could believe, since I'm no expert, but I thought I understood from the testimony how this data is read, but then again, maybe not. That's really the only explanation I can think of why this data ALONE isn't the only thing it should take to dismiss the case altogether, or at least to find her not guilty of all. So maybe I am interpreting it wrong... but I don't see where my mistake is if so. Maybe someone else does.
14:50:39.So how many total hours of deliberation has there been?
Closings are not evidence. <modsnip>Lallys closing he mentions Kerry being shown. I have to go rewatch a few things, definitely not trying to spread misinformation.
I think @arielilane is talking about the supporters not KR herself. IMOI suspect that as a teen she was more focused on academics and what she hoped to be her future career than on becoming a cheerleader.
I bet Jen McCabe either was or wished to be a cheerleader, though.
Yes it certainly does make one wonder.According to journalists who were in the courtroom, the 3 jurors not deliberating (2 alternates and the 1 juror dismissed by the judge on the last day) were the 3 who appeared most "engaged with the defense testimony and expert witnesses." I wonder if the dismissed juror will speak out after it's over and tell what happened. It was also reported that one of the alternates was crying as she entered the court yesterday. Hmmmm - just makes one wonder!
In the interest of science...I really like to try and understand people’s thought processes and how different people listening to the same witnesses reach different conclusions. This is why thousands of dollars are spent on studying potential jurors. It could be upbringing, background, life experiences and a slew of other factors that work together to influence how a juror forms an opinion on a case.
Can I pick your mind?
You said you would be the holdout because you believe KR hit JOK with her vehicle and killed him. You also say the other possibilities do not ring true. Interestingly, you said that if the prosecution presented the alternative, it would give you reasonable doubt.
Does this mean you would always believe a prosecutor over a defense attorney?
Besides thinking the alternative defense did not ring true, what evidence leads you to conclude KR is guilty?
If neither the vehicle nor JOK’s body showed any signs that he was killed in this manner, what prompts you to disregard that evidence?
Do you disregard an eminently qualified witness because he testified for the defense instead of the prosecution?
Please do not think I am trying to pounce on your opinion. I am genuinely interested in your thought process.