MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #16

[jepop]

And, “good luck.” lol.

It was an excellent statement and the 'good luck' sign off...haha perfectomundo

 

[BrownRice]

She will sleep well tonight though! Maybe for the first time in 2.5 years. She must be exhausted, like you've mentioned. MOO.

She should sleep a little better. But not the deep, restful slumber that a NG would have provided her. If the CW decides to actually go forth in this charade, maybe she has another year (?) before the next trial.

Obviously this is more of a win for KR than the CW, but still not a victory.

Does anyone know anything about the following scenarios:

1. CW has said they intend to retry. Can they come back on 7/22 and say they will retry and the date is set for xxxx. Then before date xxxx, say forget it. Basically just f around with the defense?
2. A NG would have provided KR with a lifetime of relief. It’s done. Even if CW comes back and says they are not retrying, could she in the future be charged again or does double jeopardy apply?

 

[jepop]

The best part was when BA asked proctor to just leave his lost badge and firearm IN HIS MAILBOX!!!! You know where anyone could find it.

I think it was KA not that it matters really. Proctor tried to say he had no relationship with any of the Alberts and was exposed as lying his dirty mouth off. jmo

 

[mrjitty]

As an aside, the broader behaviour of LE in this case is straight out of David Simon's "The Wire" !?!

The drinking and driving for starters

I assumed that stuff stopped back in the 90s

 

[Curiousobserver]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they wait to see the outcome of the FBI investigation before they decide to retry.

That was the most puzzling thing... The investigation has been going on for more than 1.5 years. The FBI must have an idea if charges are pending, and yet the judge saw the 3000 pages of information the FBI released and let the trial go forward. Perhaps the investigation is not investigating what we think it is?

 

[Slick762]

As an aside, the broader behaviour of LE in this case is straight out of David Simon's "The Wire" !?!

The drinking and driving for starters

I assumed that stuff stopped back in the 90s

LMAO.
It should have stopped decades ago. It still happens.

 

[OldCop]

That was the most puzzling thing... The investigation has been going on for more than 1.5 years. The FBI must have an idea if charges are pending, and yet the judge saw the 3000 pages of information the FBI released and let the trial go forward. Perhaps the investigation is not investigating what we think it is?

The following articles outline a bit about what is going on in the Federal investigation and imply the scope is broader than the Read case. The article alleges that DA Michael Morrissey and the Norfolk County DA’s office may be part of the target along with some of the players in the JOK investigation.
Morrissey pushed back on this and it might have been he who leaned on Judge Cannone to go ahead with the KR trial for appearances sake. Hopefully something will break soon now that the trial is over.

Karen Read timeline: What court docs, attorney statements reveal about the federal probe into her case

Court documents and attorneys’ comments reveal further information about the federal inquiry into Karen Read’s case.

www.boston.com

Norfolk DA says he's 'unconcerned' by federal interest in Karen Read case

Responding to reports of a federal inquiry into the murder case against Karen Read, the Norfolk DA called the probe an “extraordinary step.”

www.boston.com

 

[TTF14]

The following articles outline a bit about what is going on in the Federal investigation and imply the scope is broader than the Read case. The article alleges that DA Michael Morrissey and the Norfolk County DA’s office may be part of the target along with some of the players in the JOK investigation.
Morrissey pushed back on this and it might have been he who leaned on Judge Cannone to go ahead with the KR trial for appearances sake. Hopefully something will break soon now that the trial is over.

Karen Read timeline: What court docs, attorney statements reveal about the federal probe into her case

Court documents and attorneys’ comments reveal further information about the federal inquiry into Karen Read’s case.

www.boston.com

Norfolk DA says he's 'unconcerned' by federal interest in Karen Read case

Responding to reports of a federal inquiry into the murder case against Karen Read, the Norfolk DA called the probe an “extraordinary step.”

www.boston.com

Maybe they all thought a guilty verdict would benefit them with regard to further prosecution. Like, "look, we got a guilty verdict! We're not as bad as you think! You can't possibly prosecute us when we just convicted a killer, right?" Like when a significant other says something awful to you and then lavishes you with kindness and kind words to try to get you to forget the awful words.

And maybe there are more people being investigated by the feds than we know.

JMO IMO

 

[weepingangel]

Wow. I’m shocked the hammer dropped on proctor so quickly. This time next year he’ll probably be on a Florida beach collecting a pension.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Wow. I’m shocked the hammer dropped on proctor so quickly. This time next year he’ll probably be on a Florida beach collecting a pension.

Possibly in jail! I can’t stop thinking of his breach of trust by going through Karen’s phone looking for nudes. What if he did that with every phone in his possession, including young women or girls? Do we believe KR is the only person he’s done that to? MOO

 

[BUF]

For now, it’s unclear just how evenly the jury was split. Prosecutors and attorneys aren’t allowed to approach jurors, so unless they speak out that note is the only clue about their stalemate.

The Boston GlobeKaren Read retrial: lessons from hung jury12 hours ago

 

[turaj]

She should sleep a little better. But not the deep, restful slumber that a NG would have provided her. If the CW decides to actually go forth in this charade, maybe she has another year (?) before the next trial.

Obviously this is more of a win for KR than the CW, but still not a victory.

Does anyone know anything about the following scenarios:

1. CW has said they intend to retry. Can they come back on 7/22 and say they will retry and the date is set for xxxx. Then before date xxxx, say forget it. Basically just f around with the defense?
2. A NG would have provided KR with a lifetime of relief. It’s done. Even if CW comes back and says they are not retrying, could she in the future be charged again or does double jeopardy apply?

Yes agree a hung now just prolongs this whole deal....with so much going to come out in FBI probe and just like yesterday heads rolling a second trial will probably have a better chance of NG but still could be hung again. Commentators watching the events of scheduling yesterday say it seems that Judge C. wants to keep this moving as fast as possible and if CW wants to retry it could be sooner rather than later. She rushed the first trial and will do the same. As I understand it with any new found evidence even if they say not retrying they can at any point come back and recharge the case.
Then KR has to contend with a family that is convinced (at least some of them ie Paul) that she killed their brother/Son. As mentioned above Paul seems to be unable to move on with life at all...the look in his eyes would haunt me nightly if I were KR. At this point while heads will roll and liars like Jen exposed none of this provides solid evidence of what happened to John. Nope KR's sleep will never be the same. Under that cool exterior is probably a very broken woman.

 

[turaj]

Maybe they all thought a guilty verdict would benefit them with regard to further prosecution. Like, "look, we got a guilty verdict! We're not as bad as you think! You can't possibly prosecute us when we just convicted a killer, right?" Like when a significant other says something awful to you and then lavishes you with kindness and kind words to try to get you to forget the awful words.

And maybe there are more people being investigated by the feds than we know.

JMO IMO

I don't think Proctor will be the only casualty...he is just the easiest target. A guilty verdict may have been their ticket to avoid quite so much action being taken. BH may be the next.

 

[Ann99]

Following is a question that cannot be answered, because, who knows? And that’s the point.
After following countless true crime stories, podcasts, trials, I wonder:

Do police departments across USA or across individual States have Protocols, Standard Procedures for investigations, specifically those that may be death related? It would be basic common sense.
This “investigation “ seems to have no logic or thought process to it.
No protocol, no standards. Random and messy.

I have the same question/ concern regarding Missing Children/Missing Persons.
I see no standards for investigating.
Missing Persons ( lack of care, lack of urgency, coordination) are especially painful to realize after the fact.

We have experts on Websleuths that may have input.
Thoughts?
Is this something that can be corrected? Should it be corrected?

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I can't imagine living there after this happened. I hope she and her family can move away. Paul scares the hell out of me, he seems like a ticking timebomb.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

@BrianEntin

Full coverage and analysis of Karen Read mistrial coming up at 10pm on
@NewsNation


8:19 PM · Jul 1, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807949170705047880

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807851690168668525

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/karen-read-trial-mistrial/

Updated: JUL 1, 2024

Karen Read trial: Mistrial declared​

• The jury tried three times to reach a unanimous verdict
• Prosecutors say Karen Read killed her boyfriend, a police officer
• Read says he was killed by fellow police who framed her

(NewsNation) — Jurors failed to reach a verdict in Karen Read’s Massachusetts trial on charges alleging she killed her boyfriend by hitting him with an SUV, leading the judge to declare a mistrial Monday.

The announcement came after nearly 26 hours of deliberation and multiple attempts to avoid a hung jury. The jury first told Judge Beverly Cannone on Friday that they couldn’t reach a unanimous verdict. Friday marked the fourth day of deliberations.

Read’s attorneys said the jury already had enough time, but Cannone told jurors to keep deliberating.

Wonder if anyone is speaking about the judge or their role in this mistrial?

By comparison IMO are the Alex Murdaugh and Michelle Troconos trials. In following each of those trials the judges IMO made it clear in court and on the record the basis and rationale for any sustained or overruled objections. In many examples within those trials there was discussion and debate by counsels and the judges on the rulings.

In this trial for KR IIRC there were multiple examples only where the objection was merely ruled on. And IMO any clear basis or rationale did not seem apparent. IANAL MOO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

@BrianEntin

Full coverage and analysis of Karen Read mistrial coming up at 10pm on
@NewsNation


8:19 PM · Jul 1, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807949170705047880

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807851690168668525

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/karen-read-trial-mistrial/

Updated: JUL 1, 2024

Karen Read trial: Mistrial declared​

• The jury tried three times to reach a unanimous verdict
• Prosecutors say Karen Read killed her boyfriend, a police officer
• Read says he was killed by fellow police who framed her

(NewsNation) — Jurors failed to reach a verdict in Karen Read’s Massachusetts trial on charges alleging she killed her boyfriend by hitting him with an SUV, leading the judge to declare a mistrial Monday.

The announcement came after nearly 26 hours of deliberation and multiple attempts to avoid a hung jury. The jury first told Judge Beverly Cannone on Friday that they couldn’t reach a unanimous verdict. Friday marked the fourth day of deliberations.

Read’s attorneys said the jury already had enough time, but Cannone told jurors to keep deliberating.

DBM

Duplicate…. system was unstable.

 

[Pruddennce]

For now, it’s unclear just how evenly the jury was split. Prosecutors and attorneys aren’t allowed to approach jurors, so unless they speak out that note is the only clue about their stalemate.

The Boston GlobeKaren Read retrial: lessons from hung jury12 hours ago

they are allowed to communicate as it relates to 'post verdict' unless it is prohibited by the court. concerning a mistrial, maybe someone else can weigh in.

https://www.mass.gov/supreme-judicial-court-rules/rules-of-professional-conduct-rule-35-impartiality-and-decorum-of-the-tribunal

 

[Pruddennce]

For now, it’s unclear just how evenly the jury was split. Prosecutors and attorneys aren’t allowed to approach jurors, so unless they speak out that note is the only clue about their stalemate.

The Boston GlobeKaren Read retrial: lessons from hung jury12 hours ago

they are allowed to communicate as it relates to 'post verdict' unless it is prohibited by the court. concerning a mistrial, maybe someone else can weigh in.

https://www.mass.gov/supreme-judicial-court-rules/rules-of-professional-conduct-rule-35-impartiality-and-decorum-of-the-tribunal

 

[Curiousobserver]

Maybe they all thought a guilty verdict would benefit them with regard to further prosecution. Like, "look, we got a guilty verdict! We're not as bad as you think! You can't possibly prosecute us when we just convicted a killer, right?" Like when a significant other says something awful to you and then lavishes you with kindness and kind words to try to get you to forget the awful words.

And maybe there are more people being investigated by the feds than we know.

JMO IMO

I don't know, this whole case has been "out there". We have a defendant in a murder trial who is leaking Federal Grand Jury testimony through her friend using encrypted communication to a blogger. A years long federal investigation of the DA's and police conduct but the trial still goes forward? What kind of person(s) or department or Judge would allow Ms. Read to be subject to the possibility of conviction and Jail time if the FBI were discovering significant wrongdoing?