MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #3

[ch_13]

So here's something I'm having trouble with. According to the testimony of Ryan Nagel and the others in the Ford truck, KR was parked somewhere by the flagpole, near where JO's body was eventually found.

In the diagram I created below, wouldn't JO have gotten out of the car and walked across the lawn to the front door (following the purple line)? I think most would on a cold night unless they were wearing open-toed shoes, or for some other reason were reluctant to walk across the grass.

I guess the commonwealth believes that JO took the blue path and KR hit him as he was walking along the street. Personally, I find that less likely. But even that's true how does his body end up where the yellow circle is? Wouldn't it be closer to the driveway, just from the momentum of being hit?

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790785289549439237

 

[arielilane]

@SueNBCBoston

Lally asks how did you get the info that Colin was at the Albert’s!
- I just knew
How would you communicate?
- Apps, phone, snap, texts.


Lally asking how she approached the house, driving, she doesn’t remember.
Allison McCabe says she texted Colin “here”.
She doesn’t know how long it took him to come out.
A few minutes.
Lights were on in the house.
She doesn’t remember if it was snowing.

 

[arielilane]

Recess until 2 pm ET

 

[HarmonyE.]

So here's something I'm having trouble with. According to the testimony of Ryan Nagel and the others in the Ford truck, KR was parked somewhere by the flagpole, near where JO's body was eventually found.

In the diagram I created below, wouldn't JO have gotten out of the car and walked across the lawn to the front door (following the purple line)? I think most would on a cold night unless they were wearing open-toed shoes, or for some other reason were reluctant to walk across the grass.

I guess the commonwealth believes that JO took the blue path and KR hit him as he was walking along the street. Personally, I find that less likely. But even that's true how does his body end up where the yellow circle is? Wouldn't it be closer to the driveway, just from the momentum of being hit?

There was no reason for John to be anywhere near that location. Keep in mind he didn't have a coat (one EMT said he saw a "puffy" jacket, but he's the only one and seems to be mistaken), and although it may not have been snowing heavily yet, it was pretty cold, in the 20's by 12:30. Read had no reason to pull that far forward to let him off. So how is the CW's theory that Karen pulled over 60 feet forward and then backwards - on a curve- to hit a man who not only had no reason to be there, but also no reason to stand there and wait to be hit, even remotely viable?

 

[arielilane]

@TedDanielnews

Alli McCabe tells ADA Lally she arrived at 34 Fairview to pick up Colin Albert. She says he had been drinking and needed a ride.


12:48 PM · May 15, 2024

 

[arielilane]

@JHall7news

The defense has been pointing out no one saw Colin leave - only that he was getting a ride - so this witness is trouble for KR. They will prob need to claim she's lying.

She texted Colin "I'm here" and he came out at some point. She can't recall how quickly. Colin got in the front passenger seat. She dropped him off at his house.

 

[arielilane]

@SueNBCBoston

She dropped him home, then went home.
Judge stops him there.
Breaking for lunch a little early.
Back at 2


12:50 PM · May 15, 2024

 

[housewife]

@JHall7news




Kun testifies the lab received two swabs from a dog for testing.

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Why are they exposed and so close to one another and on the same surface???

Although I'm hoping this photo was taken after testing, since that might be circled ink on the bare swabs shown.

 

[Wishbone]

@JHall7news

The defense has been pointing out no one saw Colin leave - only that he was getting a ride - so this witness is trouble for KR. They will prob need to claim she's lying.

She texted Colin "I'm here" and he came out at some point. She can't recall how quickly. Colin got in the front passenger seat. She dropped him off at his house.

But but but the door monitors should have seen him, lol.MO

 

[housewife]

dbm

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Wait... I thought the Solo Cup CSI didn't know how to use evidence tape?

She wasn't the Solo Cup CSI. She just tested for supposed dog DNA with whatever swabs LE sent her. She's a vet tech, I believe.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Ryan may have been the most forthcoming witness so far.

Emily D. Baker called him a breath of fresh air as he's the first witness that doesn't come across as evasive, defensive, or someone with something to hide.

 

[housewife]

So here's something I'm having trouble with. According to the testimony of Ryan Nagel and the others in the Ford truck, KR was parked somewhere by the flagpole, near where JO's body was eventually found.

In the diagram I created below, wouldn't JO have gotten out of the car and walked across the lawn to the front door (following the purple line)? I think most would on a cold night unless they were wearing open-toed shoes, or for some other reason were reluctant to walk across the grass.

I guess the commonwealth believes that JO took the blue path and KR hit him as he was walking along the street. Personally, I find that less likely. But even that's true how does his body end up where the yellow circle is? Wouldn't it be closer to the driveway, just from the momentum of being hit?

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I have a feeling the biomechanic experts will prove JO's injuries, strike location, throw distance, and KR's car distance and speed could not have happened the way the prosecution alleges.

It's just math. Can't wait until the experts testify.

 

[Yemelyan]

Why are the failed qualifications of the State Police Lab person not allowed????

I hope this is brought up again, as a juror I believe it would be imperative to know if the state "professionals" actually have the required qualifications??

Probably the qualifications just can't be brought in through the testimony of this particular witness (how would she really have any idea about it, after all?). Maybe he can get it in a different way.

 

[ch_13]

In this morning's testimony, Allie McCabe mentioned that her mom had Life360 on her phone. It's a family locator that tracks via GPS.

I wonder if the Life360 data for Jen McCabe was ever pulled. From their website:

https://life360-legal.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/16369337969431-Life360-Law-Enforcement-Guidelines

Life360 generally retains some form of location data for up to 13 months. Life360 currently collects dwell data in a yearlong batch and deletes the previous year’s batch in February of the following year. Thus, the retention period for dwell data depends on when it is collected but generally will not exceed 13 months.

It seems the data should have been available until February 2023.

 

[Charlot123]

Makes sense...but imo Chloe is involved somehow, not a random dog and someone/s know/s that Chloe was involved. JMO

OK, we have zero knowledge that Chloe was involved. All I see are deep scratches. Could come from human nails, too.

Two days ago I listened to some ex-DEA agent who suddenly became an expert on the case. (??? No one was tampering with street drugs in this case AFAIK). He said, "I know an insider source, I can't tell you who he is, but he says that...". You know what I think of such statements. The same with Chloe. The lawyers accuse Chloe - but is there any proof?

I rather suspect that an obvious thing happened- the dog bit someone, BA euthanized the dog but now is too ashamed of acknowledging it because you know, we all love dogs. But, I once saw the results of someone being bitten by a pit bull. First, it looks different, and second, the owner lost a home in a lawsuit and had to put the animal down. So I know that things happen.

 

[bobbymkii]

Is it just me or did Karen look really angry in that conversation she was having with Jackson as the jury were leaving the courtroom for lunch?

 

[shotgun09]

I am enjoying the imaginary squirm of the CW, as both Yanetti and Jackson have brought up the 'whereabouts' of the mysteriously absent White Jeep with a snow plow attached.
(Belongs to Higgins).

 

[Charlot123]

The defense's sole stance is that Karen Read never hit the victim. Pre-trial they offered up three possible perps. Brian Higgins, Brian Albert, and Colin Albert. They do not have to prove any of them killed him, only that it's possible, more possible than Read killing him with her car. But the judge isn't allowing a full third party defense, which is why the defense cannot directly reference the FBI or the FBI's investigation. "During the hearing in which Mr. Lally was not present..." is as far as they can go.

Well, the reasonable doubt they'll probably get. Just because you can get injuries in many ways and because Proctor did a poor job.

At the same time, I feel certain compassion towards the policemen involved. Their female friend invited someone to their house. Now they are up to their ears in mud. If they are bad policemen in other cases, then deal with them for those mistakes. But death in BA's house is less provable than outside. That a woman scorned can get very angry we know of.