Dre
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OH MY GOD
It’s the defense who has all the bombshells. Get outta here, Brian Higgins did WHAT to his phone?!
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OH MY GOD
Reasonable doubt is a doubt based on reason not speculation. ‘What if’ is not reasonable doubt. Also, it’s not ‘beyond a shadow of a doubt.’ Neither is it, ‘must be proven with 100% certainty.’
Speculation about a murder coverup by the police and about 8 people is not a doubt based on reason. Interpreting everything these people did or didn’t do in a way to fit a conspiracy theory is just fantastical. There is no evidence that John O’Keefe entered that house and that he got beat up once there and was dragged outside and left to die. If these conjectures and wild accusations were enough to create reasonable doubt, no one would ever get convicted because you could come up with a speculative and fabricated theory for every defendant on trial.
JMO
I also believe he was afraid/is not to have been, prob after the fact, as he should be. Bring those Alberts down and their dumb, dumb relatives and wanna be part of the ALBERRRRTS in Canton. JUST ONE TOWN people, look around. Hope you realize you all have to live with your stories forever and hopefully personal repercussions.I just think he was complicit.
I know I've been a KR in my younger years, insecurity is one hell of a thing, especially when you're dating the ultimate bachelor. I know fine well I've told another woman to eff off and much worse. Though that specific and the woman are living and well not together afaik.
ive forgotten how these folks were all friends with JOK (I hate writing that, reads as JOKE in my head) in the first place
did all these women sleep with him?
Not living in the area, I thought that perhaps JM’s deleted phone calls to JO had a mundane explanation, or maybe, her friend was using her phone. I am sure JO’s story is poorly told so far.No, but it helps.
Wow. Something about him defense can show...something?Why the late state sharing of discovery especially Brian Higgins medical records?
Late Wednesday, prosecutors in the case filed a mid-trial notice of discovery, the 44th such document in the case. The short notice indicated three items had been filed as evidence: the curriculum vitae of an upcoming witness in the case, Dr. Justin Rice o fBrockton’s Good Samaritan Medical Center where O’Keefe’s body was transported; more Canton Police dash cam images and video; and,notably, a five-page copy of Higgins’ medical records.
View attachment 505522The notice included no information on why medical records would be filed, especially since he is the Commonwealth’s own witness.
Oh my.Why the late state sharing of discovery especially Brian Higgins medical records?
Late Wednesday, prosecutors in the case filed a mid-trial notice of discovery, the 44th such document in the case. The short notice indicated three items had been filed as evidence: the curriculum vitae of an upcoming witness in the case, Dr. Justin Rice o fBrockton’s Good Samaritan Medical Center where O’Keefe’s body was transported; more Canton Police dash cam images and video; and,notably, a five-page copy of Higgins’ medical records.
View attachment 505522The notice included no information on why medical records would be filed, especially since he is the Commonwealth’s own witness.
Or did he re-home it?Does Higgins still own the plow attachment to his Jeep?
Likewise, conviction requires proof, not speculation. There is no proof.Reasonable doubt is a doubt based on reason not speculation. ‘What if’ is not reasonable doubt. Also, it’s not ‘beyond a shadow of a doubt.’ Neither is it, ‘must be proven with 100% certainty.’
Speculation about a murder coverup by the police and about 8 people is not a doubt based on reason. Interpreting everything these people did or didn’t do in a way to fit a conspiracy theory is just fantastical. There is no evidence that John O’Keefe entered that house and that he got beat up once there and was dragged outside and left to die. If these conjectures and wild accusations were enough to create reasonable doubt, no one would ever get convicted because you could come up with a speculative and fabricated theory for every defendant on trial.
JMO
The plow's name is Bob and he would prefer not being called "it".Or did he re-home it?
Could the lacerations have been caused by him putting his hand up against the car/headlight to try and stop the impact?So you think he was hit by Karen's car and also beaten in the house? I don't agree that's at all likely.
He also didn't have bumps and bruises. His likely fatal injury was a 2.5 inch deep laceration to the back of the skull with associated skull fractures. Eye swelling and bruising probably as a result of the head injury. There were bruises on the backs of both hands He also had lacerations up and down his right arm. No torso injuries, no rib or pelvis fractures, no leg injuries.
This case can't get any more bizarre! Higgins medical records!?Why the late state sharing of discovery especially Brian Higgins medical records?
Late Wednesday, prosecutors in the case filed a mid-trial notice of discovery, the 44th such document in the case. The short notice indicated three items had been filed as evidence: the curriculum vitae of an upcoming witness in the case, Dr. Justin Rice o fBrockton’s Good Samaritan Medical Center where O’Keefe’s body was transported; more Canton Police dash cam images and video; and,notably, a five-page copy of Higgins’ medical records.
View attachment 505522The notice included no information on why medical records would be filed, especially since he is the Commonwealth’s own witness.
"Hos long to die in the cold", a group text to people in the house stating something to the effect "Dont thell them he was in the house" and a reply 'exactly'. I dont know, that to me is strong circumstantial evidence, adding into an independent federal inquiry which concluded that JO injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car. I have changed positions on this one.Likewise, conviction requires proof, not speculation. There is no proof.
Can someone clarify. JO medical records notated by Dr. Higgins, or Dr. Higgins own medical records?This case can't get any more bizarre! Higgins medical records!?
We should probably wait until the end of the trial before deciding there’s no proof of guilt.Likewise, conviction requires proof, not speculation. There is no proof.