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Sky news Uk is reporting the following "state media: Vietnam navy says plane crashed into sea near Tho Chu Island".

I will search for a link.

Link http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island.
 
While I know nothing will be confirmed, THIS does make the most sense to me.
Not terribly off course, but off course a little. About 2 hours into the flight... it all fits.
The other places of reported signals are simply too far out of the way to be accurate.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live

Here is the report via Yahoo Singapore referring to the Vietnamese navy’s claim that its military radar recorded the plane crashing into the sea. Stressing again that this is an unconfirmed report and the airline has not commented on it. Associated Press is also reporting named Vietnamese officals pinpointing more exactly where the last signal from the plane came from:

“Pham Hien, a Vietnamese search and rescue official, said that the signal was detected 120 nautical miles southwest of Vietnam’s southernmost Ca Mau province. Lai Xuan Thanh, director of Vietnam’s civil aviation authority, said that the plane was over the sea and bound for Vietnamese airspace but air traffic officials in the country were never able to make contact.”
 
Plumeria5 said:
Possibly ran out of fuel??

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysian-jet-carrying-239-people-suspected-run-050931501.html
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This is horribly worded, just taken out of context and not clarified... :facepalm:
They were only 2 hours into their flight with 7.5 hours of fuel, they didn't run out of fuel and go down.

What was meant was that by THAT time if it was still in the air, it would be out of fuel.
(Because it only had 7.5 hours of fuel and it had been like 9 hours at that point.)
I know this was quoted when it was initially said, on like page 1. They just took it and worded it badly. :twocents:
 
I think I figured out the signal/no signal/maybe a signal discrepancy!

I think they actually detected the planes last known LOCATION... where it dropped out of the sky.
I think this is the location/signal they are referencing (120 miles SW of Vietnam’s Ca Mau.)
I think it's where they LOST the signal and that is where the word signal got brought into it.

I think others are interpreting it to mean that they got a signal from the plane after it went down.
You know like an automatic emergency signal that the plane emits when it crashes.
I think this is a matter of language/wording/misunderstanding. :seeya:
 
5.11pm AEST The aviation website Leeham news has posted a list of the standard possible causes that will be investigated in an incident of this nature. They stress that these are not specific to this case, but include:
• Catastrophic structural failure
• Dual engine flame-out
• Clear air turbulence
• Human intervention, such as penetration of the cockpit or a bomb
• Accidental shooting-down
• Suicide of the pilot
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5.42pm AEST Aviation experts have expressed surprise at the apparent sudden failure of such a reliable aircraft. Mohan Ranganathan, an aviation safety consultant who serves on India’s Civil Aviation Safety Advisory Committee, says it is “very, very rare” for an aircraft to lose contact completely without any previous indication of problems. The online flight data suggested the plane had experienced a very rapid loss of height and change in the direction it was heading, he said.
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5.59pm AEST The Malaysian transport minister has given a press conference, but without revealing much more concrete information. No wreckage has been found, the exact location of the plane is unknown, helicopters and ships have been deployed to search for it. The reports from the Vietnamese navy that the plane has crashed remain unconfirmed.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live
 
Touched........people in Malaysia are praying on the street for #MalaysiaAirlines
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"Given the modern communications and the truly modern equipped (Boeing) 777, it's highly unlikely this plane would have landed somewhere not contactable," Mary Schiavo, the former Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Transportation, told CNN. "Depending on how the plane has gone down, there could be many survivors in need of aid.

"That plane has many different ways to locate it: Automatic beacons that tell you where it is; there are several ways to contact it both with radios and GPS, as well as computer communications within the cockpit.

"But the lack of communication suggests that something most unfortunate has happened -- though that does not suggest there are not any persons that need to be rescued and secured."
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/07/travel/malaysia-airliner-analysis/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
 
Thanks for the great coverage, wfgodot, & MsF.

I'm following this on another board, with a few current & former .mil aviation types. They're leaning towards terrorist attack or, less likely, pilot suicide. The Chinese are having problems with their Muslim Uyghur population. Remember they just had that big knife attack a couple weeks ago, 30-something people killed.

The Boeing 777 has an almost perfect safety record, so this is a huge deal in the aviation community, and the investigation will be massive.
 
This was almost an hour ago and again, makes no sense.
Why would they be transporting all the relatives?
And seriously, WHO would get on a plane in order to go there?!


http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

UPDATE [3:03pm]: At KLIA, the brother of a passenger says relatives are being told to bring a valid passport because they need to 'travel to the crash site'. Relatives have to be at KLIA before 6pm with valid passports for MAS to make 'travel arrangements'.

Police are escorting grief-stricken relatives out of the holding room. Many are distraught and in tears.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live

Meanwhile, in Kuala Lumpur, the Straits Times reports that relatives are being asked by the airline to go to the airport in two hours.

Brother of a passengers aboard missing #MH370 says that airline has asked for 2 relatives of each passenger to be at the KLIA at 6pm today.
— The Straits Times (@STcom) March 8, 2014
 
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