Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #11

[PoirotryInMotion]

BBC News US ‏@BBCNewsUS 2m

Did you see the "startlingly simple" flight #MH370 thoery? BBC's @AWZurcher looks at why it was compelling & wrong http://bbc.in/1gHir5D

 

[faw720]

Ok, now I'm confused about something other than the missing plane.

Why is the FBI involved in the search? I thought they handled domestic issues & the CIA handled international issues.

 

[angela]

[Jonti Roos] says she has been contacted by the distraught family of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane co-pilot after she revealed his alleged misconduct on an earlier flight.

Ms Roos says she has been criticised as an attention seeker and even contacted by the family of Mr Hamid, who has become a key suspect in the mysterious disappearance of flight MH370.

"Obviously his family would have been upset by this," Ms Roos told Inside Story. "They told me that they felt he'd been painted in a bad light.

"But that wasn't my attention. I never said he was bad or incompetent.

"I understand why they'd be upset about this because they didn't know what happened in the cockpit, and they think I must have been blaming him – but I wasn't."

Ms Roos also defended telling her story despite the outrage it attracted from many.

"If any of my family members were on that flight then I would want to know absolutely everything," she said.

"Even if it does seem irrelevant I would want to know."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national...t-s-family-upset-at-cockpit-fun-whistleblower

I am sorry but she needs to just go away. I saw her being interviewed and she was really enjoying herself. The info was important but she didn't need to go to the media and smear the co pilot the way she did. I am sure his family is distraught. There is absolutely no proof either pilot were involved in this.

 

[MsFacetious]

Check out the manifest number 84 and 99

http://www.ara.cat/mon/Llista-passatgers-Malaysiapdf_ARAFIL20140318_0003.pdf

We've seen it.
84 is a 27 year old student, NOT a "mad professor."
99 was NOT on the plane.

 

[ToutCa]

Check out the manifest number 84 and 99

http://www.ara.cat/mon/Llista-passatgers-Malaysiapdf_ARAFIL20140318_0003.pdf

As we've told you over and over and over, Lin Annan (#84) is not a professor and does not have the CV and the bio you keep claiming he does. Lin Annan is a 27-year-old student.

A MAIMAITIJIANG (#99) is the artist you described earlier. He is not the Uighur electronics professor in Turkey he has been confused with.

There was no mad professor on the flight. The man with the CV/bio you keep citing never left Turkey, has never been to Malaysia, and was not on the flight.

 

[stx722]

Check out the manifest number 84 and 99

Maimaitijiang/A is on manifest, a professor in Turkey and has a relationship with Ulger- not terrorism he just endorses those beliefs, Now I do no tknow if Maimaitijiang/A is a popular name over there -

http://www.ara.cat/mon/Llista-passatgers-Malaysiapdf_ARAFIL20140318_0003.pdf

He is not a professor. Check your facts please. Seems you are ignoring information that is readily verified. The professor was mididentified and never on the plane.

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[JerseyGirl]

Ok, now I'm confused about something other than the missing plane.

Why is the FBI involved in the search? I thought they handled domestic issues & the CIA handled international issues.

The FBI will deploy agents and technical experts to help investigate the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet because at least three American citizens were aboard the lost flight, a top federal law enforcement official in Washington said. “This gives us entree” to the case, the official said.
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldn...es-jet-20140308,0,5571373.story#axzz2wQua2CPP

The U.S. law enforcement official said that the federal National Transportation Safety Board will also ... be brought into the investigation "because the jet was built by Boeing in this country."
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldn...es-jet-20140308,0,5571373.story#ixzz2wQumUv8N

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Tried tomnod. Not sure I understand it. Is their satellite capable of getting land shots?

Yes. Tomnod works within the scope of whatever area needs to be searched. When Steve Fossett's airplane went missing in the mountains of Nevada, they isolated the digital images from the satellite to search on land. Tomnod crowds didn't find his plane, but if I recall...they did find other wreckage from years before and brought closure to some.

While crowdsourcing projects are always ongoing, it is a valuable tool for search operations due to the millions willing to comb over the tiles one by one to report everything they find. This info goes into a database and each report is compared to others. If there are several hits to one object, it gets further inspection. It is an excellent way to cover a lot of ground and generate clues which could lead to a discovery.

It is one of the first places I turned to when I first heard of the missing plane because it makes sense and I feel like I am doing "something" in an effort to help.

 

[catatonia]

Sorry, still have to catch up some pages, but has this already been posted?

Malaysia confirms it has new radar data on missing plane flying over another country (but won't say where for security reasons)

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

 

[aa9511]

On CNN, they showed the Malay official saying Captain Shah's GAMES were deleted. GAMES.

 

[MsFacetious]

In reference to the deleted files from the flight simulator, what if he had some not so good landings? Or if he was training what if these were files that students had take offs and landings that were practice. I guess deleting files is not sinister unless you go missing then everything would get looked at. jmo idk

He let kids play the simulator.
Maybe he deleted their files and only kept his own for his records.

Or if it was GAMES that were deleted maybe they were ones he didn't like.
I download apps on the IPAD, we try them out and only keep the ones we will actually use. :twocents:

The point being, I see nothing nefarious in deleting files.
If there was something on it he didn't want found, he'd just take the hard drive and destroy/dispose of it. :twocents:

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 2m

.@AskThePilot is on CNN now. TV is on mute in the newsroom, but I know whatever he's saying is going to be rational & well-informed. #MH370

 

[aa9511]

I would also like to say that Captain Shah and the co-pilot are very lucky they don't more damaging information than the miniscule amount being amplified 300x by the media. You know, some problems that a lot of human beings have. Imagine if there was any alcohol, gambling, adultery, etc. found in their pasts!

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Jim Sciutto ‏@jimsciutto 2m

Breaking: Australia says #MH370 search in S. Indian Ocean refined to a 600,000km2 zone but will still take "at least a few weeks"

 

[MsFacetious]

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 2m

.@AskThePilot is on CNN now. TV is on mute in the newsroom, but I know whatever he's saying is going to be rational & well-informed. #MH370

I love this guy, he's been awesome through this whole thing.
Keeping us informed, reminding us of the seriousness of this and retaining some humor too. :seeya:

https://twitter.com/jonostrower

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 3h

PSA: #MH370 isn't a meme. It's the largest global search in aviation history for 239 missing people.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

America had a spy ring in the eighties. John Walker recruited his son, brother and Jerry Whitworth who was stationed at Diego Garcia. John Walker sold our Navy secrets to the Russians from 1965 to 1985. The height of the cold war. We're now entering another cold war with Russia. He loved being called Johnny Walker Red after the Scotch he drank, it was a private joke to him. Anyway just things in my mind.


I worked for a small semi conductor company that was bought out by TRW in the early 70's when Christopher Boyce sold our cipher code to the Russians. He was in California division.

Boyce claims that he began getting misrouted cables from the Central Intelligence Agency discussing the CIA's desire to depose the government of Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in Australia. Boyce claimed the CIA wanted Whitlam removed from office because he wanted to close U.S. military bases in Australia, including the vital Pine Gap secure communications facility, and withdraw Australian troops from Vietnam.

The Russians pay big money for our secrets, but I think this will be another 911/ Bengazi attack to the "Great Satan" as we are called by many of the middle East Countries, especially Iran.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

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The point being, I see nothing nefarious in deleting files.

Me, neither. It keeps the system from overloading and dragging. If 'deleted' sim game files are the only thing they can find on this guy, he must be pretty exemplary indeed.

ETA: MsFacetious, I love Ostrower, too. His twitter page gets its own tab on my laptop.

 

[Kimster]

:modstop:

The accusations on all the boarders needs to end here. If you have information that you feel is a tip, contact the proper authorities. Our purpose is not to start naming people and accusing them of wrong doing. The only way that will happen is if there is a link to MSM that clearly defines the person of being under suspicion.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Disabling the satellite communication (ping) is a two person operation - one person to fly the plane and one person to enter the cabin and crawl down the hatch to the lower deck where the electronics bay is located.

Hypothetically, maybe there wasn't a second person to do it.

That second step (BBM) was not done. Read that fact yesterday and screenshot the article; I'll find the link.

(That's why we have the "handshake" pings we do.)

ETA: Here's the link, from the article about 3 things indicating hijacking (see section 2 re ACARS):

http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing...to-takeover-20140317-hvjge.html#ixzz2wKbzQSQg

 

[LambChop]

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