I agree with you 100%Actually the parent were convinced she was abducted the very moment they reported her missing. JMO
I agree with you 100%Actually the parent were convinced she was abducted the very moment they reported her missing. JMO
Possibly not, but Plenty of manpower, helicopters, dogs, drones & the Orang Asli over 10 days & nights.
Agree. I found this video dated six days ago showing the divers in the water. I wish we knew how close this water is to the resort and from where Nora’s body was found.This would be very important to determined and how is this waterfall in relation to the river where the white woman swimming was spotted.
Surely not 10 days and nights at the waterfall though. And no divers. It takes time for a body to surface. At the waterfall the water would be more murky, next to impossible to find anything that's submerged if you don't dive into it with strong lights, use poles, nets etc. It doesn't surprise me she wasn't found earlier.
The website has gone thru major changes in the last day or so. Now they have a terms and conditions, stating not responsible for anything.
Also, no more day visitors. Red flag!!!
Tropical Rainforest Resort | the Dusun
Click on book a room, scroll to bottom of page.
They didn't. Apparently the area was searched extensively already and the search team did not find her. ImoI can't believed they waited so many days to check that waterfall, if someone knew she wanted to visit it.
JMO
The website has gone thru major changes in the last day or so. Now they have a terms and conditions, stating not responsible for anything.
Also, no more day visitors. Red flag!!!
Tropical Rainforest Resort | the Dusun
Click on book a room, scroll to bottom of page.
Malaysia is a multi-ethnic community and all are definitely bi-lingual, if not tri-lingual! An eclectic composition of Malays, Chinese and Indians. The volunteer hikers are of Chinese descent and they were definitely speaking in Chinese.In any case they speak Malay not chinese JMO
It’s realistic to think she could of wandered outside sensory seeking animals noises and followed her impulses and simply got lost but it’s not realistic to think she managed a dangerous hike to a waterfall a mile away on rough terrain with no shoes or clothes when professional hikers have died doing it.
People are speaking as if she would even know how to get to the ravine waterfall she was found at?
I don’t understand how her parents would of even managed or risked the hike with her when they say she had mobility issues and bad coordination.
I also can understand the father shouting a crime has been committed because the police took 3 hours to arrive and his vulnerable daughter was missing nobody was doing anything or listening to them saying she must of been kidnapped he probably said it out of anger as if to say why aren’t you doing anything a crime has been committed.
There are so many things that could have been put into the public domain.
Why not say exactly what Nora was wearing, Where her brother and sister were..were they still in bed asleep? Some detail about their activities on Saturday.
The secrecy only leads to speculation
Somethings not right. Either they didn’t look very well or she was placed there after the search.
Amazingly, after the reward and the Shamans ceremony to make a trade with the jenie, they find her. Somebody was waiting on a reward.
I don’t think we will hear cause of death or anymore from the police. They wouldn’t give any information when she was missing and I don’t think they will now.
JMHO
I agree if a truck/ any vehicle was on the gated premises at 3am the owners should have known about it or if they heard it they should have gone checked. Imo they have compromised the safety of their guests. The owner apparently even told SQ while he was frantic about his beloved daughter whilst waiting on the police for 3 hours “ go to the police station or they won’t come here” Remember the family came in a taxi so I don’t think he would have access to transport. Could they really not have offered to take him to the station? Very thoughtless if you ask me considering their lax security. MOO
I can't believed they waited so many days to check that waterfall, if someone knew she wanted to visit it.
JMO
Do we know how far access to the river is from the resort or from the path to the waterfall?Me too. I said from the start the river needs to be searched thoroughly.
As someone said above she might have been submerged, maybe trapped as well. They should have dived all along the river.
They arrived on the 3rd and she disappeared that night.My strong hunch is that she died before 8AM of Aug 6.
She may have died even earlier, and her body submerged in water, preventing discovery during early searches.
Post-mortem in Malaysia may not be able to determine exact time of death, or even exact location.
I could not believe what I was reading when I saw that the owners would not call the police for this poor family. My friend had an accident in Turkey when we were there on holiday in November and the hotel staff literally did EVERYTHING for her. Got emergency doctor out to the accommodation, took us to the hospital 10 miles away every day for 4 days, did all the translating, got the consultant to do a letter for her, made all phone calls, got her shopping. They were amazing and it was only a cheap hotel rate, £8 per person per night for a twin room for sole use, breakfast included! Makes my blood boil that Nora's father was told to go to the police station himself
A post-mortem examination will be carried out by senior pathologists from Kuala Lumpur this morning.
State police chief Mohamad Mat Yusof, who has led the searches, said: 'We will inform the post-mortem result tomorrow. Based on that we will decide if we need to investigate further if we are not satisfied.'
He said that the search and rescue operation had yet to be called off, should authorities need to look for more evidence tomorrow.
The deputy chief of Malaysia's police force Mazlan Mansor had earlier said that officers have so far found no evidence of criminal behaviour.
But he refused to confirm whether Nora had suffered any injuries or if anybody else may have been involved in her death.
He described Nora as 'completely naked' but 'intact' when she was found, adding it was too soon to determine how long her body had been at the scene.
The area, which is popular with local tourists and located in an area known as the Pantai hills, had previously been searched – but no clues were found.
The Dusun resort offers guided tours to the Lata Berembun waterfall, involving a 20-minute trek to the jungle entrance and a further one-hour walk along a defined jungle trail.
In a sad twist, it emerged yesterday that the teenager – who was born with a debilitating brain condition – had been keenly anticipating a trip to the waterfall.
Only hours before her body was discovered, a member of the hiking club that found her said the group had been instructed to check the location.
Shirley Yap, who was among a group of around 20 volunteers from the nearby town of Seremban, said: 'We had heard she was excited about seeing a waterfall when she arrived in the resort.'
The hikers, including leader Kenny Chan, were taken to give statements at a police station in the nearby village of Pantai, which served as the headquarters for the search operation.
Nora Quoirin's family hunted in vain for the 15-year-old missing in the Malaysian jungle | Daily Mail Online
I wonder how much they enforced that, or if members of the staff's families were allowed to use the facilities.Day guests have never been allowed. It’s well documented even as far back as 2014 in comments by the management on TripAdvisor.
Someone posted a video a few pages back. The water is crystal clear. They even had clear under water shots.Surely not 10 days and nights at the waterfall though. And no divers. It takes time for a body to surface. At the waterfall the water would be more murky, next to impossible to find anything that's submerged if you don't dive into it with strong lights, use poles, nets etc. It doesn't surprise me she wasn't found earlier.
Above bolded by me for reference
I really like how all these other governments have offered help, especially on Twitter and in the media.
I've not heard the help was excepted.I have read other governments have sent representives but no word of any joint effort or assist provided. I do read the police chief speak of their expertise.
I hope when the family returns home with Nora and they collect their thoughts, they share what really happened. How they were really treated. Did the government prevent/threaten them from speaking? This whole thing just stinks!!!
Jmo